Not true, it is basically a half and half thing currently. Sometimes the smaller states win it.
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The winner-take-all system really may benefit large states in some elections, and in other it benefits small states. Why? There's really not any reason for it. It's just ambigious and senseless.
Nationwide popular vote or proportional allocation of electoral votes both seem better. Proportional allocation would give small states a very, very large advantage. But at least it is consistent in doing that.
Popular vote, however, would insure that each American had an exactly equal say in the process. Consistently.
Although each state may technically have the ability to change it themselves, the way it's set up there's really no reason for any state to adopt a system that may result in their electoral vote being split. It's really all or none.
Nationwide popular vote or proportional allocation of electoral votes both seem better. Proportional allocation would give small states a very, very large advantage. But at least it is consistent in doing that.
Popular vote, however, would insure that each American had an exactly equal say in the process. Consistently.
Although each state may technically have the ability to change it themselves, the way it's set up there's really no reason for any state to adopt a system that may result in their electoral vote being split. It's really all or none.
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I've done statistical analysis in my career and I can tell you folks that when there's one data set that's as skewed as CA , that data from the outlier is usually thrown out as an anomoly. And CA is very, very skewed compared to all other states, NY included. hrc got about 4.3million more votes in CA than trump.
So if I were doing a scientific research project, CA would be considered an anomaly with hrc getting about twice as many votes as trump.
At least the EC takes CA into consideration and more so than any other state.
For what it's worth.
So if I were doing a scientific research project, CA would be considered an anomaly with hrc getting about twice as many votes as trump.
At least the EC takes CA into consideration and more so than any other state.
For what it's worth.
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I bet you won't agree to voter ID for elections though, prove me wrong.
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There is certainly something odd going on there, Trump should introduce voter ID for elections as a matter of priority.
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Of course what you are really saying is that you hate that Clinton lost and that's all that matters. Would you play chess with someone if they wanted to change the rules halfway through?
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I agree with some but we are still a republic!
Doing away with the electoral college would ensure a monarchy, where illegal immigrants, and dead people in the major population centers which also just happens to be where the new plantations are would be the only votes that count, plantations where the freebies flow like milk and honey! No Thanks!
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You don't understand American culture. This notion that you have to have "papers" or "a card" is abhorrent to us. It violates a presumption of innocence. I have no obligation to carry papers for the government. We live in a free society. Besides we have had elections for many years, with out ID requirements, where election fraud has been statistically insignificant. It's a solution in search of a problem.
How could you possibly know that election fraud has been insignificant if you refuse to ID who is voting ?
That kind of bullshit is impossible to grasp by anyone with a brain....
With that kind of logic you could vote in 50 different polling places at election time
With that kind of logic you could you go into a bank and withdraw money from anyone's account.
With that kind of logic any teenager could by booze
With that kind of logic you could use a stolen credit card with ease
The list is endless and the logic is literally crazy.
ID's required,
1. Alcohol
2. Cigarettes
3. Opening a bank account
4. Apply for food stamps
5. Apply for welfare
6. Apply for Medicaid/Social Security
7. Apply for unemployment or a job
8. Rent/buy a house, apply for a mortgage
9. Drive/buy/rent a car
10. Get on an airplane
11. Get married
12. Purchase a gun
13. Adopt a pet
14. Rent a hotel room
15. Apply for a hunting license
16. Apply for a fishing license
17. Buy a cell phone
18. Visit a casino
19. Pick up a prescription
20. Hold a rally or protest
21. Blood donations
22. Buy an "M" rated video game
23. Purchase nail polish at CVS
24. Purchase certain cold medicines
But not to vote? Thats insane.
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You've been eating too many Spartans Wolvie.
Doing away with the electoral college would ensure a monarchy, where illegal immigrants, and dead people in the major population centers which also just happens to be where the new plantations are would be the only votes that count, plantations where the freebies flow like milk and honey! No Thanks!
Your response is no response.....probably because deep down you know he is exactly right....
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Pretty fucking funny coming from a dullard as yourself. You RW morons keep making that claim with no proof other than your RW conspiracy sites.
You're either gullible lemmings or liars. I believe you are a combination of both.
first off, way to bump a 9 year old thread guys.
Second, how do you know there is no fraud? There really isn't much of a way to check.
In massachusetts, you just walk up and give your name and address, no proof necessary. I could give the name of my friends easily and vote in their place. My brother didn't vote this year, I live nearby and could have easily given his address and name. California is even worse.
And you suck government dick everyday. You fill out papers for the government. They are called tax forms. You need an ID to basically function in this society. Now i am not saying I approve of a government ID, but there probably is some solution inbetween what you are advocating and what tom is advocating.
thisis a post from 2007 bro. watermark didn't even know who obama was with this post. that's how long ago.
After doing one minute of research I found out you are full of shit in your assumptions.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/194741/four-five-americans-support-voter-laws-early-voting.aspx
http://www.weeklystandard.com/the-majority-of-minorities-support-voter-id-laws/article/2003934
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Yes we are the same over here. The UK is virtually alone in Europe in not having identity cards. However there is now a determined push to get voters to bring a passport, driver's licence or a utility bill along to the polling station. I can't see what the big deal is personally, surely everybody has some form of ID like electricity, gas or phone bill with their name and address on it?
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A utility bill with proof of address could suffice, it doesn't have to be a passport or driver's licence.
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