Jill Stein’s Pennsylvania Recount Effort Is Dealt a Major Setback

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Pennsylvania appears increasingly unlikely to have a statewide recount of its votes, diminishing the last long-shot hope by opponents of Donald J. Trump that a review of the ballots could overturn his election as president.

In a filing on Saturday, a lawyer for Jill Stein, the Green Party presidential candidate, who began the recount bids in Pennsylvania — as well as in Michigan and Wisconsin — said “petitioners are regular citizens of ordinary means” and could not afford a $1 million bond payment that was ordered by Pennsylvania courts.

A lawyer for Ms. Stein’s recount campaign indicated on Saturday night that they were not giving up in Pennsylvania and planned to request that the federal courts on Monday intervene to order a statewide recount.

Lawyers for Pennsylvania Republicans and Mr. Trump had asked a judge on Thursday to dismiss Ms. Stein’s request, saying she had not identified any fraud or illegal activity during the Nov. 8 election.

Lawrence J. Tabas, the general counsel of the Republican Party of Pennsylvania, said on Saturday that the withdrawal served as “recognition” that the Stein-led effort was “completely without merit,” and that the decision to drop the case “assures that President-elect Trump will be declared the winner by the Electoral College,” which meets on Dec. 19.

Earlier, Ms. Stein had criticized the $1 million bond needed to proceed with a recount. “This is yet another sign that Pennsylvania’s antiquated election law is stacked against voters,” she said. “We will pursue every available remedy to ensure Pennsylvanians can trust what happened in this election.”

Hillary Clinton, the Democratic nominee, trails Mr. Trump by 49,543 votes in the state, according to data from the Pennsylvania Department of State. As voting results were updated this week, Mr. Trump’s lead in Pennsylvania had shrunk by about 20,000 votes. Mrs. Clinton would have needed to be declared the winner in all three recount states to overturn the Electoral College result.

While the statewide effort was withdrawn, a related campaign to recount votes in targeted precincts in places like Philadelphia is continuing, but it would fall far short of the statewide recount Ms. Stein had sought.

Ms. Stein has gained more traction pushing for recounts in the other two battleground states, where Mr. Trump leads by narrow margins.

Election officials in Wisconsin on Thursday began the task of recounting about three million votes across the state, while continuing to face legal challenges from Trump backers.

A recount is also pending in Michigan, amid a flurry of litigation, including opposition from the state’s attorney general and Mr. Trump, as well as a federal lawsuit from the Stein campaign. The review of the votes there could begin as early as Tuesday.

Ms. Stein is funding the recount bids, having collected $6.9 million as of Saturday evening. Opponents, though, are concerned that local governments, particularly in Michigan, will end up shouldering millions of dollars in costs.

Mrs. Clinton’s campaign has played a muted role in the efforts, only passively participating and paying for lawyers to be present during recounts.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/03/us/jill-stein-pennsylvania-recount.html?_r=0
 
I can't think of any sane reason. Stein says there was "evidence" of hacking -but provides no evidence.

All this can do is delay the Electoral College vote-which is not in the country's best interest.
HRClinton's lawyers are giving passive support..why?
 
I can't think of any sane reason. Stein says there was "evidence" of hacking -but provides no evidence.

All this can do is delay the Electoral College vote-which is not in the country's best interest.
HRClinton's lawyers are giving passive support..why?
Nothing they do will change the outcome of the election.....why?...well for future political and monetary gains.
Look at me I raged against the machine for you! I fought for you! I made an ass of myself! Oh wait a minute......
 
I can't think of any sane reason. Stein says there was "evidence" of hacking -but provides no evidence.

All this can do is delay the Electoral College vote-which is not in the country's best interest.
HRClinton's lawyers are giving passive support..why?

It's so jacked up on so many levels even the JPP liberals don't comment on it much. It's totally pointless. There's no evidence of foul play and now the precedent is set for future sore-losers to simply declare they want a recount, just cuz.

And Hillary's support of it is inexplicable.
 
It's so jacked up on so many levels even the JPP liberals don't comment on it much. It's totally pointless. There's no evidence of foul play and now the precedent is set for future sore-losers to simply declare they want a recount, just cuz.

And Hillary's support of it is inexplicable.
yep. just what we need. more built in confusion
 
Incredible. trump is STILL lying that the election was rigged and all you guys can do is pile on Jill Stein because she wants three states recounted. For the record there will still be recounting in PA, just not on a state-wide level.

Now let's see you justify trump's claim that he would have won the popular vote if only some amorphous group of illegals hadn't cheat-voted.
 
Incredible. trump is STILL lying that the election was rigged and all you guys can do is pile on Jill Stein because she wants three states recounted. For the record there will still be recounting in PA, just not on a state-wide level.

Now let's see you justify trump's claim that he would have won the popular vote if only some amorphous group of illegals hadn't cheat-voted.
Recounting doesnt bother me one bit. What irritates me is Jill the Shrill has no evidence at all of any improprieties. None. Zilch.
Neither does Trump.
Both irritate me on that subject with equal enthusiasm.
I suspect illegals voted. I suspect machines can fuck up. I suspect those things but on a minuscule level.
 
Recounting doesnt bother me one bit. What irritates me is Jill the Shrill has no evidence at all of any improprieties. None. Zilch.
Neither does Trump.
Both irritate me on that subject with equal enthusiasm.
I suspect illegals voted. I suspect machines can fuck up. I suspect those things but on a minuscule level.

What bothers me is that a candidate who won the electoral college by a substantial number is still whining and tweeting about recounts, and is being egged on by his followers. If trump was less insecure and thin-skinned he'd either ignore this or laugh it off. Instead he gives more fuel to his enemies by complaining and insulting the Stein recount, when clearly it won't make a bit of difference to him in the end.

Hillary knows a recount isn't going to change things and I know that too. But I'm not going to lose sleep over it because what's done is done.
 
What bothers me is that a candidate who won the electoral college by a substantial number is still whining and tweeting about recounts, and is being egged on by his followers. If trump was less insecure and thin-skinned he'd either ignore this or laugh it off. Instead he gives more fuel to his enemies by complaining and insulting the Stein recount, when clearly it won't make a bit of difference to him in the end.

Hillary knows a recount isn't going to change things and I know that too. But I'm not going to lose sleep over it because what's done is done.
I agree. Trump need to STFU very much about voting methodologies (drive/vote etc.)and illegals. It just makes me whence frankly.
He needs to get out of campaign mode and start the evolution to leader of the free world.
 
What bothers me is that a candidate who won the electoral college by a substantial number is still whining and tweeting about recounts, and is being egged on by his followers. If trump was less insecure and thin-skinned he'd either ignore this or laugh it off. Instead he gives more fuel to his enemies by complaining and insulting the Stein recount, when clearly it won't make a bit of difference to him in the end.

Hillary knows a recount isn't going to change things and I know that too. But I'm not going to lose sleep over it because what's done is done.

I think it would be irresponsible to ignore it. It's a long shot, but this thing can kicked over to House if some of the recount states don't certify their results because it's tied up in the courts.

For the democrats to do this, *after* whining about Trump possibly not accepting the election if he lost, is utter hypocrisy.
 
I think it would be irresponsible to ignore it. It's a long shot, but this thing can kicked over to House if some of the recount states don't certify their results because it's tied up in the courts.

For the democrats to do this, *after* whining about Trump possibly not accepting the election if he lost, is utter hypocrisy.

Please spare me the hypocrisy comments. Who is a bigger hypocrite than the Orange one, with his big fat lie that he lost the popular vote because "millions of illegals voted."

trump said from day one that he'd only accept the results of the election if he won and his supporters cheered him for saying so.
 
Stein is way out of line here,and the fact Clinton lawyers are participating shows some desperation, or inability to grasp reality..
So far the recount in WI gave 7 new votes to Trump and 5 to Clinton -why do this?

There was no evidence of "hacking"..some writer some place talked about an "anomaly"..
the danger now is that it delays certification of state results-which would delay the EC vote.
 
Stein is way out of line here,and the fact Clinton lawyers are participating shows some desperation, or inability to grasp reality..
So far the recount in WI gave 7 new votes to Trump and 5 to Clinton -why do this?

There was no evidence of "hacking"..some writer some place talked about an "anomaly"..
the danger now is that it delays certification of state results-which would delay the EC vote.
Again.......if at anytime the Sec of State feels confident nothing is changing she/he will stop it and certify the vote. Your done.
 
It's so jacked up on so many levels even the JPP liberals don't comment on it much. It's totally pointless. There's no evidence of foul play and now the precedent is set for future sore-losers to simply declare they want a recount, just cuz.

And Hillary's support of it is inexplicable.

No evidence?

The President-Elect has contended for months now that the election was rigged, and that millions of ineligible voters cast a vote. He has claimed that our process is rife with fraud.

You're not suggesting that he's lying, are you?
 
Stein is way out of line here,and the fact Clinton lawyers are participating shows some desperation, or inability to grasp reality..
So far the recount in WI gave 7 new votes to Trump and 5 to Clinton -why do this?

There was no evidence of "hacking"..some writer some place talked about an "anomaly"..
the danger now is that it delays certification of state results-which would delay the EC vote.

trump should be congratulating Stein, not excoriating her. She might find those millions of illegals who lost him the popular vote.
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And trump's inability to cope with the majority of the country voting for someone else is a window into his heart.
 
There is no way the results will be overturned, Trump should just step back and, in the words of a Disney Princess, just "Let it Go!"...
 
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