The left should chill

American citizens are not hostages. Everyone is free to go live under the laws of another government. People can buy a map, pick another place to live that better matches one's lifestyle, beliefs, governing style and tells you what your kids can eat for lunch.
 
anatta said:
interesting. I'dlike to see the Jefferson quote .

Not their words governing us today, but the structure ( balance of powers) remains the law of the land.
We're so far gone when you study this stuff it's absolutely shocking how far we have drifted to the point of limitless fed'l expansion
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Every constitution, then, and every law, naturally expires at the end of nineteen years. If it be enforced longer, it is an act of force, and not of right. It may be said, that the succeeding generation exercising, in fact, the power of repeal, this leaves them as free as if the constitution or law had been expressly limited to nineteen years only. In the first place, this objection admits the right, in proposing an equivalent. But the power of repeal is not an equivalent. It might be, indeed, if every form of government were so perfectly contrived, that the will of the majority could always be obtained, fairly and without impediment. But this is true of no form. The people cannot assemble themselves; their representation is unequal and vicious. Various checks are opposed to every legislative proposition. Factions get possession of the public councils, bribery corrupts them, personal interests lead them astray from the general interests of their constituents; and other impediments arise, so as to prove to every practical man, that a law of limited duration is much more manageable than one which needs a repeal." --Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1789. ME 7:459, Papers 15:396

Letter to James Madison
http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/document/letter-to-james-madison-17/
 
blackascoal said:
Every constitution, then, and every law, naturally expires at the end of nineteen years. If it be enforced longer, it is an act of force, and not of right. It may be said, that the succeeding generation exercising, in fact, the power of repeal, this leaves them as free as if the constitution or law had been expressly limited to nineteen years only. In the first place, this objection admits the right, in proposing an equivalent. But the power of repeal is not an equivalent. It might be, indeed, if every form of government were so perfectly contrived, that the will of the majority could always be obtained, fairly and without impediment. But this is true of no form. The people cannot assemble themselves; their representation is unequal and vicious. Various checks are opposed to every legislative proposition. Factions get possession of the public councils, bribery corrupts them, personal interests lead them astray from the general interests of their constituents; and other impediments arise, so as to prove to every practical man, that a law of limited duration is much more manageable than one which needs a repeal." --Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1789. ME 7:459, Papers 15:396

Letter to James Madison
http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/document/letter-to-james-madison-17/
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interesting quote BAC. It appears at first glance to be about "passing along debt" from a person to their heirs.
Jefferson appears to be making the point one cannot be born in debt.

Then no generation can contract debts greater than may be paid during the course of it’s own existence.
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blackascoal said:
Every constitution, then, and every law, naturally expires at the end of nineteen years. If it be enforced longer, it is an act of force, and not of right. It may be said, that the succeeding generation exercising, in fact, the power of repeal, this leaves them as free as if the constitution or law had been expressly limited to nineteen years only. In the first place, this objection admits the right, in proposing an equivalent. But the power of repeal is not an equivalent. It might be, indeed, if every form of government were so perfectly contrived, that the will of the majority could always be obtained, fairly and without impediment. But this is true of no form. The people cannot assemble themselves; their representation is unequal and vicious. Various checks are opposed to every legislative proposition. Factions get possession of the public councils, bribery corrupts them, personal interests lead them astray from the general interests of their constituents; and other impediments arise, so as to prove to every practical man, that a law of limited duration is much more manageable than one which needs a repeal." --Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1789. ME 7:459, Papers 15:396

Letter to James Madison
http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/document/letter-to-james-madison-17/
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Why don't you and your fellow commies try to repeal it then? Chicken?
 
Mr. Meeseeks said:
yeah and i don't agree with people bashing michelle. she's like one of the least controversial people to be upset about
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I like her. I didn't like it when people made fun of her weight, she is not fat by any means or her looks. She is a nice looking lady.

Both sides have become disgusting in their attacks. And Trump, geeze my gorsh, he won and has been the most disgusting in his attacks of any presidential candidate. I think people have become immune to the attacks.
 
blackascoal said:
Sorry brother .. I'm not at all interested in weak-kneed politics or anything else.

It's called, 'what goes around, comes around.'

Republicans, who have spent 8 years in the gutter, should have no problem with it .. but they will.
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Thanks for keeping us in the gutter you hypocritical ass.
 
Comrade Watermark said:
I think we should keep the electoral college. Just uncivilized flyover states like Wisconsin shouldn't get any electors. Only NYC, California, Virginia, Massachusetts, etc... should get a vote. If people in Iowa want control over the most powerful position in the world, they should go produce the next Google. Until then they should get back to their stupid farms.
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You have to be trolling.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
I think it was that and that Hillary ran a very "negative" campaign.
It's been bad in the past; but this time it seemed to go way over the top and I'm not sure that this is what the voters want to hear, night after night.
Don't tell us what the other guy is doing, tell us what you're going to do.
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Hillary ran a negative campaign? Compared to Trump she was mother Theresa.

Give me a break.
 
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