Californi Secession

Fuck that.
You will be lucky if we don't make Cali into four seperate states seeing how you are "more than a state".
 
cawacko said:
Which is why I don't even get what "conversation" they hope to start with this idea
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Texas has had several secession movements, what did they hope to get?

The rise of membership in the Texas Nationalist Movement coincided with other secession-related news events not part of that organization. Governor Rick Perry, at a political rally in 2009, addressed the possibility of secession. During the rally, many in the crowd began to chant "secede, secede", to which Perry remarked, "If Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that."[SUP][19][/SUP][SUP][25][/SUP] Perry subsequently clarified that the comment was tongue in cheek and that he does not support secession.[SUP][24][/SUP] His remarks sparked controversy[SUP][25][/SUP] and harsh criticism from government officials and pundits, such as Jeff Macke and Joe Weisental.[SUP][26]

After the 2012 presidential election, bumper stickers and signs saying "secede" began appearing in Texas.[SUP][URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_secession_movements#cite_note-400percent-30"][30][/SUP] The election also triggered a wave of petitions on the [/URL]White House "We the People" website. While the Texas petition was not first to appear, it overtook those of the other states with over 125,000 signatures, well above the 25,000 to trigger a response.[SUP][13][/SUP][SUP][26][/SUP] The petition stated that secession would "protect the original ideas and beliefs of our founding fathers which are no longer being reflected by the federal government" and defend Texans from "blatant abuses to their rights"[SUP][31][/SUP] The Texas secession petition was followed by one allowing Austin to secede from Texas and stay part of the union.[SUP][31][/SUP] The White House issued a 476-word response rejecting the idea.[SUP][13][/SUP]
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California's national guard has very few weapons that do not belong to the feds, and only an asshole like you would expect the members of the Cal national guard to fire upon other Americans. Dude you are mentally ill
Threedee said:
1) Don't insult God, you atheist
2) No, because California can't manage a budget
3) California already has a National Guard
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christiefan915 said:
Texas has had several secession movements, what did they hope to get?

The rise of membership in the Texas Nationalist Movement coincided with other secession-related news events not part of that organization. Governor Rick Perry, at a political rally in 2009, addressed the possibility of secession. During the rally, many in the crowd began to chant "secede, secede", to which Perry remarked, "If Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that."[SUP][19][/SUP][SUP][25][/SUP] Perry subsequently clarified that the comment was tongue in cheek and that he does not support secession.[SUP][24][/SUP] His remarks sparked controversy[SUP][25][/SUP] and harsh criticism from government officials and pundits, such as Jeff Macke and Joe Weisental.[SUP][26]

After the 2012 presidential election, bumper stickers and signs saying "secede" began appearing in Texas.[SUP][URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_secession_movements#cite_note-400percent-30"][30][/SUP] The election also triggered a wave of petitions on the [/URL]White House "We the People" website. While the Texas petition was not first to appear, it overtook those of the other states with over 125,000 signatures, well above the 25,000 to trigger a response.[SUP][13][/SUP][SUP][26][/SUP] The petition stated that secession would "protect the original ideas and beliefs of our founding fathers which are no longer being reflected by the federal government" and defend Texans from "blatant abuses to their rights"[SUP][31][/SUP] The Texas secession petition was followed by one allowing Austin to secede from Texas and stay part of the union.[SUP][31][/SUP] The White House issued a 476-word response rejecting the idea.[SUP][13][/SUP]
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And people in California regularly mock Texas for it. So why are we doing this?
 
PostmodernProphet said:
there's a conflict already......we think of you as less......
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Good, then keep your ppl back there on the frozen tundra & stop sending them here.

Cause we know you are not sending your best, their fat, lazy, pasty, drug dealers, rapist, criminals & I assume some are good ppl........
 
cawacko said:
We have trillions in unfunded liabilities that we would now have no chance of the federal gov't picking up. Are we going to get a military to protect ourselves? The remainder of the U.S. would lose California's 55 electoral votes, not helpful for the Democrats.

Shervin Pishevar wants to help California secede from the US
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I'm all for secession. It's a State Right.
 
Bill said:
Good, then keep your ppl back there on the frozen tundra & stop sending them here.

Cause we know you are not sending your best, their fat, lazy, pasty, drug dealers, rapist, criminals & I assume some are good ppl........
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I doubt it.......it they want to go TO California they probably aren't.......the good ones are all leaving.....
 
christiefan915 said:
Scalia said no.

Current Supreme Court precedent, in Texas v. White, holds that the states cannot secede from the union by an act of the state. More recently, Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia stated, "If there was any constitutional issue resolved by the Civil War, it is that there is no right to secede."

http://www.newyorkpersonalinjuryattorneyblog.com/2010/02/scalia-there-is-no-right-to-secede.html
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Supreme court god has spoken!!!

Nothing left to discuss here..........
 
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