Was it legal for FBI to expand Weiner email search to target Clinton’s emails?

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FBI Director James B. Comey recently announced that the FBI had discovered new emails that might be relevant to the investigation of Hillary Clinton’s email server. The emails were discovered in an unrelated case, and the FBI now plans to search through the emails as part of the Clinton server investigation. Comey’s announcement raises an important legal question: Does expanding the FBI’s investigation from the unrelated case to the Clinton case violate the Fourth Amendment? We don’t know all the facts yet, so it’s somewhat hard to say. But here’s why the expansion of the investigation might be constitutionally problematic.

If the FBI was searching Weiner’s computer, it presumably had a warrant authorizing the search of the computer only for Weiner’s communications with underage girls. If that is correct, going from that narrow search to a broader search of Clinton’s emails raises two potential problems for the FBI. The first issue is whether the FBI was permitted to search through Abedin’s email account for records of Weiner’s illegal messages with underage girls. In People v. Herrera, 357 P.3d 1227 (Colo. 2015), the Colorado Supreme Court provided some reason to think that the answer may be “no.”

There might be similar problems because the alleged Weiner texting crimes apparently occurred in 2016. I gather that the Clinton emails were from her time as secretary of state, which was several years earlier from 2009 to 2013. If I’m right that there was a several-year gap between the warrant crime and the second investigation, it’s not clear the government could search through older emails for evidence of such a recent crime. See Wheeler v. State, 135 A.3d 282 (Del. 2016) (holding that the Fourth Amendment was violated when a warrant to search computers for witness tampering that occurred in 2013 did not include a date restriction on how far back the search could extend; evidence of crime from a computer not used since 2012 suppressed as a result).

A second issue is whether the FBI was permitted to seize the Abedin emails, which were outside the scope of the warrant, and to use them to reopen the investigation into Clinton’s email server. I think this is the bigger legal issue for the FBI. Most courts have treated this as a matter of the “plain view” exception. But if that’s true, there’s a problem: The plain view exception does not allow evidence to be seized outside a warrant unless it is “immediately apparent” upon viewing it that it is evidence of another crime. Just looking quickly at the new evidence, there needs to be probable cause that it is evidence of a second crime to justify its seizure, which would presumably be necessary to apply for the second warrant. See Arizona v. Hicks, 480 U.S. 321 (1987); United States v. Williams, 592 F. 3d 511, 522 (4th Cir. 2010). But it’s not clear how that would be the case here. Comey’s letter to Congress is really tentative.

The Fourth Amendment plain view standard doesn’t allow a seizure of emails based on a mere we-hope-to-later-determine standard. The government can’t seize the emails just because the Clinton investigation is extra important and any possible evidence is worth considering. Rather, the Fourth Amendment requires the initial look at the emails to generate “immediate” probable cause that they are evidence of a crime first, before their seizure is permitted and used to get a second warrant.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...llary-clintons-emails/?utm_term=.e6ce26482263
 
From the source: Does expanding the FBI’s investigation from the unrelated case to the Clinton case violate the Fourth Amendment? We don’t know all the facts yet, so it’s somewhat hard to say.

I will throw my two cents out there; it is perfectly legal and should be investigated because avoiding transparency by setting up an ILLEGAL private server to conduct the people's business is CRIMINAL. ;)
 
First we had futon detectives, now we have futon lawyers. Go get em christie fag.!

Perhaps you can relay your concerns to Professor Kerr, counselor.

"Orin S. Kerr is a nationally recognized scholar of criminal procedure and computer crime law. Since he joined the faculty in 2001, his publications have been cited in over 2,000 articles and more than 200 judicial opinions.

Professor Kerr is a former trial attorney in the Computer Crime and Intellectual Property Section at the U.S. Department of Justice, as well as a Special Assistant U.S. Attorney in the Eastern District of Virginia. He clerked for Judge Leonard I. Garth of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit and Justice Anthony M. Kennedy of the United States Supreme Court.

Professor Kerr has argued cases in the United States Supreme Court and three federal circuits. He has testified six times before Congressional committees. In 2013, Chief Justice Roberts appointed Professor Kerr to serve on the Advisory Committee for the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure. Chief Justice Roberts appointed Professor Kerr again in 2015 to serve on the Judicial Conference’s committee to review the Criminal Justice Act.

Professor Kerr has been a visiting professor at the University of Chicago and the University of Pennsylvania. In addition to writing more than 50 articles, he has authored and co-authored popular casebooks and co-authored the leading criminal procedure treatise. He also posts regularly at The Washington Post’s legal blog The Volokh Conspiracy.

The GW Law Class of 2009 awarded Professor Kerr the law school’s teaching award. Before attending law school, he earned undergraduate and graduate degrees in mechanical engineering."

https://www.law.gwu.edu/orin-s-kerr?id=3568
 
From the source: Does expanding the FBI’s investigation from the unrelated case to the Clinton case violate the Fourth Amendment? We don’t know all the facts yet, so it’s somewhat hard to say.

I will throw my two cents out there; it is perfectly legal and should be investigated because avoiding transparency by setting up an ILLEGAL private server to conduct the people's business is CRIMINAL. ;)

It is hard to say. All we can do is speculate. FBI begins process of going through Huma's emails which are comingled with Weiner's emails which are comingled with Clinton's emails. There are many possible significant discoveries to be made here. What do Bill, Anthony, Hillary and Huma have in common? There is a common thread aside from the obvious. I'm still connecting the dots.
 
It is hard to say. All we can do is speculate. FBI begins process of going through Huma's emails which are comingled with Weiner's emails which are comingled with Clinton's emails. There are many possible significant discoveries to be made here. What do Bill, Anthony, Hillary and Huma have in common? There is a common thread aside from the obvious. I'm still connecting the dots.

I think it's obvious Weiner will be tempted to squack for a plea bargain. However they got on his computer he had something to do with it, and he put them there for a reason.
 
Now we know why they were so incompetent prior to 911, they were still checking Bill's email and missed the letter. Too funny how James Comey has become America's Julian Assange, I heard he went out on Halloween as Julian carrying reams of email print outs.

"An election in 1932 ended up killing 50 million people around the world." Bernie Sanders

 
Its all "moot"......the information has been released. What? Is this comparable to a trial were the judge can instruct the jury to "disregard" the last statement as an objection has been sustained? OK....voters ignore the fact introduced that Hildabeast's private emails have somehow ended up on Weiner's laptop....before you vote. If the FBI does not release the emails...eventually, Wikileaks will simply dump them on the democrats laps. If Weiner has them, rest asurd....Wikileaks has access to the same files.

What the hell....neither Comey nor the FBI are running for POTUS. Put his ass in jail....there will be no effect upon the election as the human mind is not like a laptop that can be rebooted, no one can "unlearn" something.

FUNNY as hell. Can anyone say....

D E S P E R A T I O N

All the left wing Clinton apologists are slinging shit attempting to deflect away from Clintongate. Priceless.

Now someone tell us that the author of this piece is not a left wing progressive liberal communist.....Clinton Apologist and perhaps was giving Mr. Comey high fives for his integrity when he announced that he was not going to charge Clinton back in the summer. LMAO
 
im loving that weiner had it under "life insurance" in his computer :) Must be juicy stuff if he was relying on it to prevent suicide by revolver to back of head.
 
Perhaps you can relay your concerns to Professor Kerr, counselor.

"Orin S. Kerr is a nationally recognized scholar of criminal procedure and computer crime law. Since he joined the faculty in 2001, his publications have been cited in over 2,000 articles and more than 200 judicial opinions.

Professor Kerr is a former trial attorney in the Computer Crime and Intellectual Property Section at the U.S. Department of Justice, as well as a Special Assistant U.S. Attorney in the Eastern District of Virginia. He clerked for Judge Leonard I. Garth of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit and Justice Anthony M. Kennedy of the United States Supreme Court.

Professor Kerr has argued cases in the United States Supreme Court and three federal circuits. He has testified six times before Congressional committees. In 2013, Chief Justice Roberts appointed Professor Kerr to serve on the Advisory Committee for the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure. Chief Justice Roberts appointed Professor Kerr again in 2015 to serve on the Judicial Conference’s committee to review the Criminal Justice Act.

Professor Kerr has been a visiting professor at the University of Chicago and the University of Pennsylvania. In addition to writing more than 50 articles, he has authored and co-authored popular casebooks and co-authored the leading criminal procedure treatise. He also posts regularly at The Washington Post’s legal blog The Volokh Conspiracy.

The GW Law Class of 2009 awarded Professor Kerr the law school’s teaching award. Before attending law school, he earned undergraduate and graduate degrees in mechanical engineering."

https://www.law.gwu.edu/orin-s-kerr?id=3568

:lol:
 
The gig is up
The party is over
The fat lady is singing
The shit has hit the fan
The sky is falling
Its raining like hell on the liberal parade
 
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