PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
your bullshit meter creates new records.....
Gingrich, leader of fight to impeach Clinton, calls Kelly out
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your bullshit meter creates new records.....
Yeah. Every time you post it spikes so hard the glass breaks.
again it's commonly used parlance, and this isn't a court of law, despite your trying to say I don't know the meaning of hearsay, and how you were using it as a legal term
and ALL those women have no documentation other then hearsay (un-substantiation)
Isn't it odd all the women can out after Trumps jock talk,and none of the women made any contact with lawyers of the police?
That looks like the women had political motives as much as personal- Trump has been running a long time -why not come out earlier if they were so aggrieved?
you are the one who brought up the wide charges of Trump's constant lying.
Clinton consistently lied about getting into the 2011 Libyan war (humanitarian crisis /Viagra rape) -which is more important?
Which goes to judgement?
towards what ends?
are you claiming the blind eye turned towards her corruption/big door driven campaign - which Bernie specifically railed against -
( as well as her judgement) is superior to Trump's political surrogates?
Surrogates are surrogates -they act as prosecutors for the candidates.
Michelle Obama has been running around calling him a "Sexual predator"- we've already established that's not a solid fact.
It's politics. why even go there with your posts?
Darth Omar
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The timing of these women coming forward couldn't be more suspect. October before an election, for crying out loud. Where were they two years ago? Where were they in republican primaries?
the media are the plutocrats covering for oligarchy rule, by the entrenched special interests, which are tied to career politicians.
Investigative reporting has become "advocacy journalism"
Darth Omar
Russian asset
I don't think it's necessarily intentional. A lot of it is plain old group think. They probably spend more time reading each other's Tweets than hard reporting. Hard reporting is work. Besides, sex sells and policy stuff is boring and people aren't interested in it anyway.
So, I think they sort of fall into 'team sport' journalism out of sheer laziness.
All of a sudden Trump backtracked from his threat to sue all of these women after the election. Curious, isn't it lol.
Darth Omar
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Does that make sense? Assuming the charges are legit, shouldn't he go ahead and take his lumps after he's in the WH? It won't matter then because you guys set the bar with Bill Clinton.
Karma's a bitch lol?
What it tells me is that he doesn't want any of this to come out because it's all true lol. Otherwise, sue and be damned.
That's rather the point, isn't it? It's erroneous usage, and I tend to not put up with erroneous usage of words.
It is not hearsay. To use YOUR definition, it's got to be rumor to be hearsay. Rumor is "Hey, did you hear what so-and-so said?" THAT is rumor, gossip and hearsay. It is NOT hearsay when it comes directly from the source, which is what happens here. You can argue this all day long and you'll still be as wrong at the end of the day as you are right now. Period.
Moving on:
Let me stop you right there. The comments Trump made are NOT "jock talk." They are NOT "locker-room talk." I was a "jock" in high school and college. I never spoke the way he did, nor did any of my teammates, frat brothers, or any of the people I associated with. What Trump engaged in is bragging about sexual assault.
Not only is that offensive to women, but the very idea that every man thinks what he said and did is appropriate is patently offensive to any REAL man. And those males who believe it's appropriate are not men, they are stupid, idiotic boys who never grew up.
Are you familiar with the statics on reporting of sexual assaults and rapes? Do you know why they are so deeply under-reported? EXACTLY because of people like you who want to turn sexual assault back on those who were assaulted.
I suggest you take your head out of your rectum and face a little reality on the score of reporting of sexual assault and rape. Women who have already experienced such traumatic and violent incidents must not only be forced to relive the episode(s) psychologically during a trial phase, very often they are not believed, shamed, embarrassed and exposed to the stigma that it's THEIR fault.
It does, but then you listen to what each of these women say and they say (to paraphrase), "We kept silent because he was so powerful, we weren't, and in the end it wouldn't have made a difference. But now there IS a difference, because he did this to us and he wants to lead the country. We can't let that happen." That's pretty goddamned important, and you're right, it IS political, but I have no reason to NOT take these women at their word. Trump has lied so, frequently, fluidly and freely that there is NO reason to believe a single word he ever says. Ever.
Okay, and here we go with this. They are not "charges" of Trump's constant lying. I am going to say this again, plainly and pointedly, as I have MANY times on this forum without a single moderator removing the statement or demanding that I not make it for fear of legal reprisal. Ready?
IT IS AN ABSOLUTE AND INCONTROVERTIBLE FACT THAT DONALD J. TRUMP IS A SERIAL LIAR.
I do not fear any legal reprisal, nor need the owners of this forum, because that is not a lie. It is not defamation. It is not slander. It is not libel. It is DEMONSTRABLY true.
So stop saying it's a "charge" of Trump's constant lying. He is a liar. Period. Pretending it's not true makes you look stupid.
You are clearly not well versed on the beginnings, middle and end of American intervention in Libya. While she had some influence in the decisions that led to intervention, she did not herself make the decision. That said, she DID have an influence, but it is important to know the full story in order to best determine anything about her ability to judge. While I do not personally agree with everything that led to the fall of Qaddafi and the subsequent civil war, to lay the blame solely at Clinton's feet is simply unreasonable.
Yes, I absolutely am. Trump's political surrogates, and Trump himself, lie with such alarming frequency - even in the face of absolute proof that they are lying about what they're lying about - that it is terrifying.
Clinton got caught in lies and, while not exactly saying "Yes, I absolutely lied," she DID take some small portion of personal responsibility. For example, with regard to the private server, she said she made a mistake. That's not an admission of the lies, but it's an acceptance of a shred of responsibility. That is, frankly a million times more preferable to someone saying, "I did NOT say that," immediately after being shown a video of them saying what they say they didn't say.
The ability to accept even a smidgen of responsibility means at least she's aware that she was wrong. Trump simply doesn't see that he's ever wrong, and that's dangerous. If you think you're always right then you never learn. Trump doesn't learn.
In Trump's case, they are not prosecutors. They are supplicants saying anything they can to get the tiniest unwanted scrap thrown from Trumps tacky table. It's why they're so quick to resort to unbelievable and clumsy verbal legerdemain every time they're interviewed. If you listen to them, the only way they could possibly believe what they say is if they really are stark, raving insane.
I'm going have to agree with Michelle Obama, based on Donald Trump's own statements. Based on Donald Trump's own statements I believe he is a sexual predator. Based on the accusations that have been leveled against him by multiple women which are substantiated (there's that word!) by Donald Trump's own statements, I believe he is a sexual predator. He has given us no reason to believe he is not a sexual predator.
Darth Omar
Russian asset
What it tells me is that he doesn't want any of this to come out because it's all true lol. Otherwise, sue and be damned.
Meh, taking it to court just draws more attention to it. And attention to it is what you and Hillary want.
Right lol?
And that explains why Trump keeps drawing attention to it, then?
I would enjoy it just as much as you're enjoying wikileaks lol.
And here's another one.
Ninni Laaksonen was Miss Finland in 2006 and she’s the 12th woman to come forward to accuse Donald Trump of sexual assault or harassment. She said Trump grabbed her while they were being photographed, just seconds after meeting and before they appeared on the show together. From The Telegraph:
“Trump stood right next to me and suddenly he squeezed my butt. He really grabbed my butt.
“I don’t think anybody saw it but I flinched and thought: ‘What is happening?’”
Miss Laaksonen said she also attended some house parties with the other contestants and Mr Trump’s wife, Melania, who he had married the year before.
“Somebody told me there that Trump liked me because I looked like Melania when she was younger,” she said.
“It left me disgusted.”
Ninni Laaksonen was Miss Finland in 2006 and she’s the 12th woman to come forward to accuse Donald Trump of sexual assault or harassment. She said Trump grabbed her while they were being photographed, just seconds after meeting and before they appeared on the show together. From The Telegraph:
“Trump stood right next to me and suddenly he squeezed my butt. He really grabbed my butt.
“I don’t think anybody saw it but I flinched and thought: ‘What is happening?’”
Miss Laaksonen said she also attended some house parties with the other contestants and Mr Trump’s wife, Melania, who he had married the year before.
“Somebody told me there that Trump liked me because I looked like Melania when she was younger,” she said.
“It left me disgusted.”
At the time, Trump and Melania had only been married for about a year. You can see Miss Finland briefly appear onstage with Donald Trump when she escorted him out to the interview with David Letterman. WATCH:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/...-grabbed-her-outside-the-David-Letterman-Show
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/...-grabbed-her-outside-the-David-Letterman-Show
parlance is parlance -none of this is used as legal terminology-it's not "erroneous"
period? I love the way you make a point and then say there is no other worthy view.
It comes from the "source" but the point is the source is impeachable/questionable because of politics and the time line.
So this source can be nothing but hearsay ( sic) etc. etc..
call it what you will. it's obvious what we are speaking of ( Access Hollywood & the following women),and i've heard some really crude talk too. I'm not all that interested in re-hashing this as it's been gone over literally 10,000+ times. You call him what you want ,i'll do the same - but his jock talk" + the women's words are not substantive to bring any charges . So "sexual predator " is more a politicalcharge then anything legal
blah blah,rant rant..etc etc.
yes, but we are talking chares in the media,but not going to the police. Now that the media charges are out there -why not go to the police? or a lawyer?
The "reportage" is worldwide by the media -why are they holding back now??
but we are NOT talking "trial phase!! further none of these women have made any reportage to friendly lawyers.
With Trumps deep pockets that is especially odd enough to question the entire narrative.
*there is no need for you to bring in abusive language. It just makes you a pompous ass!*
You are making your political judgement into self serving fact. That's fine for you,but don't expect me to be led by your political evaluation
and I can say the very same thing about Clinton on Libya, Iraq,and her "Friends of Syria"organizing. Further her Email scandal show she is a compulsive serial liar directly to the american public. Even her campaign staff were shocked at the depths she plumbed
bullshit. She was chief US advocate in the WHouse NSC, and international organizer. She agitated to make Qadafii a military target.
Shecalled for interventionism past a no fly ( UN Resolution 1973)
You are grossly ignorant of her expansive role -from Jibril in Paris to "we came we saw he died".
start here from her own State Dept. educate yourself.I have plenty more references and sources including NYTimes
http://apps.frontline.org/clinton-trump-keys-to-their-characters/pdf/clinton-email.pdf
from: Jake Sullivan
Sant: Sunday, August 21, 2011 7:40 PM
To: Mills, Cheryl D; Nuiand, Victoria J
Subject: tidc todc on libya
this is basically off the top of my head, with a few consultations of my notes. but it shows S'Clinton
leadership/ownership/stewardship of this country's libya policy from start to finish, let me know what you
think. toria, who else might be able to add to this?..........HRC
has been a critical voice on Libya in administration deliberations, at NATO, and in contact group
meetings — as well as the public face of the U.S. effort in Libya. She was instrumental in securing the
authorization, building the coalition, and tightening the noose around Qadhafi and his regime.
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Newt was right.....Ole Megs likes that locker room talk.....guess she hates men.....$20 mil hypocrite.
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Who knew? A lot of dudes just can't stand women.
As Trump would say...sad!
As Trump would say...sad!
Yes.
I not only saw sound-bites of it on TV News.
I saw them repeated, and even extended on entertainment TV, Stephen Colbert's CBS show.
Kelly ripped Newt a new one, with grace and charm. Newt may have had a valid point. BUT !! His desperation was evident, grasping at straws in a losing race. And candidly; lookit who Newt was defending! Can anyone that actually knows the facts, can anyone that has actually reviewed Trump's misogynistic wording deny that Trump is a lying pig?
Darth Omar
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What it tells me is that he doesn't want any of this to come out because it's all true lol. Otherwise, sue and be damned.
If you're Trump the last thing you want is to sue and call attention to it. It's playing right into their hands.
He occasionally does something smart.