Should Arab non-muslims be banned from govt?

tsuke

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https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/28660

another gem from podesta :)

pertienent paraghraph

"1) In the candidates for top jobs, I excluded those with some Arab American background but who are not Muslim (e.g., George Mitchell). Many Lebanese Americans, for example, are Christian. In the last list (of outside boards/commissions), most who are listed appear to be Muslim American, except that a handful (where noted) may be Arab American but of uncertain religion (esp. Christian). "

Are Arabic non-muslims less qualified to hold govt office?
 
good god. This "food group" mentality is the main focus for the Clinton campaign.
WhoTF thinks like this?- "exclude Lebanese from Arab Muslims because they are Christian??
 
This is concerning, but you are prescribing motive to snippet of information.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preeta_D._Bansal



Preeta D. Bansal (born October 18, 1965) is an Indian-American lawyer who served as the General Counsel and Senior Policy Advisor to the federal Office of Management and Budget from 2009 until 2011.[1] Prior to her work in the Obama administration, she served as a law partner at Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom and as the Solicitor General of the State of New York during Attorney General Eliot Spitzer's first term. She also has been a member and past chair of the United States Commission on International Religious Freedom (USCIRF). She is currently a lecturer at MIT and senior advisor at the Laboratory for Social Machines[2] based at the MIT Media Lab.
 
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https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/28660

another gem from podesta :)

pertienent paraghraph

"1) In the candidates for top jobs, I excluded those with some Arab American background but who are not Muslim (e.g., George Mitchell). Many Lebanese Americans, for example, are Christian. In the last list (of outside boards/commissions), most who are listed appear to be Muslim American, except that a handful (where noted) may be Arab American but of uncertain religion (esp. Christian). "

Are Arabic non-muslims less qualified to hold govt office?

she didn't work for Clinton
 
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/28660

another gem from podesta :)

pertienent paraghraph

"1) In the candidates for top jobs, I excluded those with some Arab American background but who are not Muslim (e.g., George Mitchell). Many Lebanese Americans, for example, are Christian. In the last list (of outside boards/commissions), most who are listed appear to be Muslim American, except that a handful (where noted) may be Arab American but of uncertain religion (esp. Christian). "

Are Arabic non-muslims less qualified to hold govt office?

Fwd: FW: Asian American Candidates, Muslim American Candidates


From:gaylesmithgayle@gmail.com
To: john.podesta@gmail.com
Date: 2008-10-17 08:18
Subject: Fwd: FW: Asian American Candidates, Muslim American Candidates





Lists from Preeta attached. I took Mansour Ijaz off the list, way bad idea,
can explain if needed. G

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Bansal, Preeta D <PBANSAL@skadden.com>
Date: Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 11:01 PM
Subject: FW: Asian American Candidates, Muslim American Candidates
To: John Podesta <jpodesta@americanprogress.org>, Gayle Smith <
gaylesmithgayle@gmail.com>


FYI also.

________________________________

From: Bansal, Preeta D (NYC)
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 11:01 PM
To: Froman, Michael B
Cc: 'Onek, Matthew'
Subject: Asian American Candidates, Muslim American Candidates


Here are the compiled lists of Asian American and Muslim American
candidates for top Administration jobs, sub-cabinet jobs, and outside
boards/agencies/policy committees. A couple things to note about the list
of Muslim American candidates:

1) In the candidates for top jobs, I excluded those with some Arab
American background but who are not Muslim (e.g., George Mitchell). Many
Lebanese Americans, for example, are Christian. In the last list (of
outside boards/commissions), most who are listed appear to be Muslim
American, except that a handful (where noted) may be Arab American but of
uncertain religion (esp. Christian).

2) There is only one candidate I thought was a viable one for a
Secretary-level job among the Muslim Americans. That said, on both lists,
there are some very senior people listed in the last category (for outside
boards/commissions) who conceivably could be considered for top jobs. The
very senior people I put on the last list tended not to be terribly
involved in politics or policy, or in the case of some Asian Americans,
had already served in the Clinton and even Carter Administrations and so I
thought we should seek new talent. But there's no magic to some of the
placements. I think the lists are fairly exhaustive, but some of the
people may be moved to other categories.

3) High-profile Muslim Americans tend to be the subject of a fair amount
of blogger criticism, and so the individuals on this list would need to be
ESPECIALLY carefully vetted. I suspect some of the people I list would
not survive such a vet -- but I do personally know, at least in part,
virtually all of the candidates in the 1st two categories (but I know very
few of those listed for outside boards/commissions).

4) I listed the elected Muslim American democratic officials at the end
of the second category, but for various reasons, I didn't think any of
them would necessarily be suitable for an Administration appointment.
Nevertheless, I wanted to flag them for you in case you wanted to evaluate
them further.

DOJ list will be coming in the next two days. Judges and USAttorneys will
still take about 10 days. Let me know if the latter are needed sooner.

Preeta D. Bansal
Partner
Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP
Four Times Square | New York | 10036-6522
T: 212.735.2198 | F: 917.777.2198
pbansal@skadden.com
 
ITs not half as bad as Trump wanting to ban ALL MUSILIMS from entering the Country.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mansoor_Ijaz#Memogate



Mansoor Ijaz was one of the key protagonists in Pakistan's Memogate controversy.[65] On October 10, 2011 Ijaz published an opinion piece about the interference of Pakistan's intelligence services in the function of its democratic institutions. In the opinion's prelude, Ijaz disclosed the existence of a memorandum that he had allegedly been asked to deliver to Admiral Mike Mullen, then-chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, on behalf of a senior Pakistani diplomat,[66] later identified as Pakistani envoy Husain Haqqani, in the days following the Abbottabad raid.[67] The memorandum sought the Obama administration's help to avert a military takeover of Pakistan's civilian government in the immediate aftermath of Osama bin Laden's death.[68] It was delivered to Mullen at Ijaz's request by former U.S. national security adviser General James L. Jones.[69]
Then-leader of the opposition, Nawaz Sharif (who would later become Pakistan's prime minister), lodged a petition with the Supreme Court of Pakistan to investigate the origins, credibility and purpose of the memorandum.[70] His and other petitions lodged with the Supreme Court alleged that the memorandum had been drafted by Haqqani at the behest of Pakistan's then-president, Asif Ali Zardari, and delivered without knowledge of the country's powerful armed forces and intelligence services. On December 30, 2011, after reviewing Sharif's petition, the Supreme Court constituted a Judicial Commission to conduct a broad inquiry.[71] Ijaz was among the key witnesses deposed, as were Pakistan's intelligence chief, Ahmad Shuja Pasha and Haqqani. Pakistan's army chief Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani submitted written testimony to the Supreme Court, as did then-Prime Minister Yousef Raza Gilani on behalf of the Zardari government.[72]
After nearly six months of investigations, the Judicial Commission reported its findings on June 12, 2012.[73] It found that the memorandum was authentic and that Haqqani was its "originator and architect".[74]:119 The report said the former ambassador "orchestrated the possibility of an imminent coup to both persuade Mr. Ijaz to convey the message and also to give it (Memorandum) traction and credibility".[74]:108 The justices found further that one of Haqqani's purposes was to head a new national security team in Pakistan. In an unexpected turn of the investigation, a secret fund was discovered in Pakistan's Washington embassy that Haqqani allegedly had access to and had allegedly utilized, in "apparent violation of Article 84 of the Constitution of Pakistan".[75] The Commission's report exonerated President Zardari from any prior knowledge of the memorandum, although it noted that in the "considered view" of the justices, Haqqani had led Ijaz to believe the memorandum had the Pakistani president's approval.[74]:111[76] Following testimony by Ijaz, the Commission deemed him a reliable witness whose credibility Haqqani had unsuccessfully sought to undermine.[74]:112
The Supreme Court, upon hearing the Commission's report in session, ordered Haqqani to appear before the bench. The former envoy, however, continued to reject the Commission's findings while maintaining his innocence. As of July 2014, he remained in the United States.[77]
 
Fwd: FW: Asian American Candidates, Muslim American Candidates


From:gaylesmithgayle@gmail.com
To: john.podesta@gmail.com
Date: 2008-10-17 08:18
Subject: Fwd: FW: Asian American Candidates, Muslim American Candidates





Lists from Preeta attached. I took Mansour Ijaz off the list, way bad idea,
can explain if needed. G

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Bansal, Preeta D <PBANSAL@skadden.com>
Date: Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 11:01 PM
Subject: FW: Asian American Candidates, Muslim American Candidates
To: John Podesta <jpodesta@americanprogress.org>, Gayle Smith <
gaylesmithgayle@gmail.com>


FYI also.

________________________________

From: Bansal, Preeta D (NYC)
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 11:01 PM
To: Froman, Michael B
Cc: 'Onek, Matthew'
Subject: Asian American Candidates, Muslim American Candidates


Here are the compiled lists of Asian American and Muslim American
candidates for top Administration jobs, sub-cabinet jobs, and outside
boards/agencies/policy committees. A couple things to note about the list
of Muslim American candidates:

1) In the candidates for top jobs, I excluded those with some Arab
American background but who are not Muslim (e.g., George Mitchell). Many
Lebanese Americans, for example, are Christian. In the last list (of
outside boards/commissions), most who are listed appear to be Muslim
American, except that a handful (where noted) may be Arab American but of
uncertain religion (esp. Christian).

2) There is only one candidate I thought was a viable one for a
Secretary-level job among the Muslim Americans. That said, on both lists,
there are some very senior people listed in the last category (for outside
boards/commissions) who conceivably could be considered for top jobs. The
very senior people I put on the last list tended not to be terribly
involved in politics or policy, or in the case of some Asian Americans,
had already served in the Clinton and even Carter Administrations and so I
thought we should seek new talent. But there's no magic to some of the
placements. I think the lists are fairly exhaustive, but some of the
people may be moved to other categories.

3) High-profile Muslim Americans tend to be the subject of a fair amount
of blogger criticism, and so the individuals on this list would need to be
ESPECIALLY carefully vetted. I suspect some of the people I list would
not survive such a vet -- but I do personally know, at least in part,
virtually all of the candidates in the 1st two categories (but I know very
few of those listed for outside boards/commissions).

4) I listed the elected Muslim American democratic officials at the end
of the second category, but for various reasons, I didn't think any of
them would necessarily be suitable for an Administration appointment.
Nevertheless, I wanted to flag them for you in case you wanted to evaluate
them further.

DOJ list will be coming in the next two days. Judges and USAttorneys will
still take about 10 days. Let me know if the latter are needed sooner.

Preeta D. Bansal
Partner
Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP
Four Times Square | New York | 10036-6522
T: 212.735.2198 | F: 917.777.2198
pbansal@skadden.com

it was about only one person being removed fromconcideration
 
good god. This "food group" mentality is the main focus for the Clinton campaign.
WhoTF thinks like this?- "exclude Lebanese from Arab Muslims because they are Christian??

democrats apparently :) I guess all arabs must convert to Islam for career purposes.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Froman


Michael B. Froman (born August 20, 1962)[1] is an American lawyer who has served as the U.S. Trade Representative since 2013. He has been Assistant to the President of the United States and Deputy National Security Advisor for International Economic Affairs, a position held jointly at the National Security Council and the National Economic Council. In that position he served as the United States sherpa to the G7, G8, and G20 summits of economic powers.[2] On May 2, 2013 President Barack Obama nominated him to succeed Ambassador Ron Kirk as the U.S. Trade Representative.[3][4] He was confirmed on June 19, 2013.
 
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