OJ: Made in America

cawacko

cawacko

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Anyone else watch the first part of the 30 for 30 series last night?

First off it was very well done and was a great history piece on race in this country as well as on OJ. It was a reminder he was one of the most popular people in America during the mid to late '70's he was that big of a star.

And a disclaimer Free the Juice and Fight On OJ.
 
cawacko said:
Anyone else watch the first part of the 30 for 30 series last night?

First off it was very well done and was a great history piece on race in this country as well as on OJ. It was a reminder he was one of the most popular people in America during the mid to late '70's he was that big of a star.

And a disclaimer Free the Juice and Fight On OJ.
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I was with you until your last statement. Unless you're kidding.

I saw Simpson play for Southern Cal and later for the Bills. He was one of the great running backs in football history. My personal favorite for all time greatest RB is Jim Brown. Saw him play in person and on TV. He was the best.
 
philly rabbit said:
I was with you until your last statement. Unless you're kidding.

I saw Simpson play for Southern Cal and later for the Bills. He was one of the great running backs in football history. My personal favorite for all time greatest RB is Jim Brown. Saw him play in person and on TV. He was the best.
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I went to USC so I have a love for OJ from that perspective that transcends all. I was a senior in school when the trial was occurring and the verdict came. That was a wild time in LA.

At the 2004 Orange Bowl when USC beat Oklahoma 55-19 OJ and AC Cowlings sat ten rows behind me. As we left I found myself standing next to the two of them in the aisle way. I took a picture with OJ and he put his arm around me. It is hard to describe in words how large and how strong OJ's forearm was (no homo). If he decided to do something no one stood a chance.
 
philly rabbit said:
I was with you until your last statement. Unless you're kidding.

I saw Simpson play for Southern Cal and later for the Bills. He was one of the great running backs in football history. My personal favorite for all time greatest RB is Jim Brown. Saw him play in person and on TV. He was the best.
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Pretty cool to say you saw Jim Brown in person. I've seen his film and read what his contemporaries had to say about him. Pretty amazing athlete.
 
cawacko said:
Pretty cool to say you saw Jim Brown in person. I've seen his film and read what his contemporaries had to say about him. Pretty amazing athlete.
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He was practically unstoppable. His trademark was getting up real slow after being tackled .. even gang tackled .. then coming back and running right past you and through you on the very next play.
 
No one watching? The next installment interviews some of the jurors. Ultimately they did the right thing because OJ was innocent but the prosecutor had almost no chance to get a conviction with this jury from others who have watched the episode. If there was video of him doing it they may not have gotten a guilty verdict.
 
cawacko said:
I went to USC so I have a love for OJ from that perspective that transcends all. I was a senior in school when the trial was occurring and the verdict came. That was a wild time in LA.

At the 2004 Orange Bowl when USC beat Oklahoma 55-19 OJ and AC Cowlings sat ten rows behind me. As we left I found myself standing next to the two of them in the aisle way. I took a picture with OJ and he put his arm around me. It is hard to describe in words how large and how strong OJ's forearm was (no homo). If he decided to do something no one stood a chance.
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I have to admit. I never saw Jim Brown play. I was to young. I did see OJ play in the heyday of the dead ball era and he's the best running back I've ever seen play the game. I have not seen anyone who had his combination of size, speed, power and agility.

Now I know there are some sweetness fans out there who will try to argue this....please don't embarrass yourselves. Sweetness was great but he did not have the Juice size, speed or power. The closest I've seen to being as good as OJ, over the years, has been Eric Dickerson but Eric didn't have OJ's ability to dish out punishment though he certainly had OJ's speed and elusiveness.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
I have to admit. I never saw Jim Brown play. I was to young. I did see OJ play in the heyday of the dead ball era and he's the best running back I've ever seen play the game. I have not seen anyone who had his combination of size, speed, power and agility.

Now I know there are some sweetness fans out there who will try to argue this....please don't embarrass yourselves. Sweetness was great but he did not have the Juice size, speed or power. The closest I've seen to being as good as OJ, over the years, has been Eric Dickerson but Eric didn't have OJ's ability to dish out punishment though he certainly had OJ's speed and elusiveness.
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You obviously watched him play in Buffalo? Sounds like he was just a shell of himself by the time he got to the 49ers for his last two seasons.
 
cawacko said:
No one watching? The next installment interviews some of the jurors. Ultimately they did the right thing because OJ was innocent but the prosecutor had almost no chance to get a conviction with this jury from others who have watched the episode. If there was video of him doing it they may not have gotten a guilty verdict.
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Yea I was doing the home office routine when the OJ trial went down. So I watched a good deal of it. My opinion was that the case they built on him was mostly based on circumstantial evidence built from forensic investigation that was bungled badly. I think the jury arrived at the correct verdict due to the unreliability of the forensic evidence that reasonable doubt did exist.
 
cawacko said:
No one watching? The next installment interviews some of the jurors. Ultimately they did the right thing because OJ was innocent but the prosecutor had almost no chance to get a conviction with this jury from others who have watched the episode. If there was video of him doing it they may not have gotten a guilty verdict.
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I really want to see this one, but it's too much of a time commitment right now. I'll binge it when it's available on Netflix or something.

I'm a big Bills fan & was a huge OJ fan growing up. Of course, that has changed (the latter, anyway).
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Yea I was doing the home office routine when the OJ trial went down. So I watched a good deal of it. My opinion was that the case they built on him was mostly based on circumstantial evidence built from forensic investigation that was bungled badly. I think the jury arrived at the correct verdict due to the unreliability of the forensic evidence that reasonable doubt did exist.
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Friday's the next installment but people who have watched it said one juror said the Rodney King thing was her on mind so she wanted to make a point. I believe a couple others said something similar. Cochran was a genius to make it about the LAPD and their history, not OJ.
 
Thing1 said:
I really want to see this one, but it's too much of a time commitment right now. I'll binge it when it's available on Netflix or something.

I'm a big Bills fan & was a huge OJ fan growing up. Of course, that has changed (the latter, anyway).
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It is a bit of a time commitment but it's really really good if you get the chance. The whole thing of OJ, race, the history of the LAPD etc.
 
I haven't caught this, what station is it on? I was addicted to The People vs OJ. That was really reliving the 90's in many ways. It was crazy but in retrospect not really. He lost everything and ended up in prison with a 30 year sentence anyway. Maybe he will make parole, but maybe he won't. Either way he paid. As he should.
 
Darla said:
I haven't caught this, what station is it on? I was addicted to The People vs OJ. That was really reliving the 90's in many ways. It was crazy but in retrospect not really. He lost everything and ended up in prison with a 30 year sentence anyway. Maybe he will make parole, but maybe he won't. Either way he paid. As he should.
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It's been showing on ESPN. Part 4 or 5 will be Friday at 9pm. The trial stuff is good but all that they show about OJ's life prior is gold as well.
 
I had forgotten about the Latasha Harlins shooting by the Korean women who got no jail time right after the Rodney King beating which also helped lead to the '92 riots. The OJ trial happened at a perfect time for him. The jurors were able to give the LAPD and 'the system' the big middle finger.
 
cawacko said:
You obviously watched him play in Buffalo? Sounds like he was just a shell of himself by the time he got to the 49ers for his last two seasons.
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Oh absolutely. I first saw OJ play in 72 with the Bills. He first started becoming a big name in 71 when he ran for about 750 yards in 71 for the Bills who were one of the worst teams in the NFL. OJ first two years were unspectacular as he had to adjust to the NFL game his rookie year on a horrible team and it's was the Bills horrible O line that led to his season ending injury in 70 but in 71 they rebuilt their O line and The Juice Was Loose. From then till 77 (my sophomore year in High School) he was the best back in the NFL by far and away.

From 72 to 75 he averaged 1540 yards a season...when there was only 14 regular season games. Averaged over a 16 game season that would have been an average of 1750 yards.

Then in 77 he tore his anterior cruciate ligament and the didn't have the surgical remedies for that which they have no and the Juice was pretty much done after that. He had two mediocre season in San Francisco and retired.
 
cawacko said:
Friday's the next installment but people who have watched it said one juror said the Rodney King thing was her on mind so she wanted to make a point. I believe a couple others said something similar. Cochran was a genius to make it about the LAPD and their history, not OJ.
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I'll buy that.....its exactly what the lefties do today with issues....change the subject .....
Don't make the Orlando shooting about terrorists, make it about guns
Don't make the issue Hillarys lies, talk about Trump
and it goes on and on.....
 
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