protesters attack Trump supporters outside rally

No, and that's a vast oversimplification of what I said.

I'm talking about a connection, not a justification or excuse. Unless you think it's pure coincidence that we happen to be seeing violence at rallies for the most divisive, incendiary candidate we've had for high office in decades.

Is that what you're saying? Is that what you think?
what you are hearing , is not what Trump supporters are hearing.
I hear vast amounts of bullshit from Hillary and some from her supporters -some of which I think is also "incendiary"(sic)

There cannot be a "connection" to violence -that's the bright line that cannot be crossed.
Passions aflame are one thing...now to be fair I do think Trump gets off on this too -especially when he used to
say "throw them out" at his rallies -that's abhorrent.

But that's removal as crowd control or private rallies ,or something like the Bush protest zones, they are all deplorable.

Still they are not violent, and again that has to be the dividing line. zero tolerance.no excuses.
 
what you are hearing , is not what Trump supporters are hearing.
I hear vast amounts of bullshit from Hillary and some from her supporters -some of which I think is also "incendiary"(sic)

There cannot be a "connection" to violence -that's the bright line that cannot be crossed.
Passions aflame are one thing...now to be fair I do think Trump gets off on this too -especially when he used to
say "throw them out" at his rallies -that's abhorrent.

But that's removal as crowd control or private rallies ,or something like the Bush protest zones, they are all deplorable.

Still they are not violent, and again that has to be the dividing line. zero tolerance.no excuses.

We've always had divisive rhetoric in campaigns, and supporters have always gotten very passionate and even angry. But we have never seen anything like this, ever.

It's why I brought it up. I think Trump's brand of divisiveness is unique, and worse. He thrives on pitting groups against one another. Even w/ the judge from Indiana who has Mexican heritage - if you have any association with a certain group, you're "them." You're different.

Don't try to compare it to what Hillary says, or what the average political candidate says. There IS a reason that this violence & disruption is following the Trump campaign, and no one else's, nor anyone who we've seen in decades. This is absolutely not a coincidence. And it's okay to talk about that.
 
I wonder if this is because of the violent talk from the left about Trump? Dangerous Donald. Hillary's bizarre rant about Donald nuking a country because he has thin skin.

The left is causing hysteria and mass fear about Donald. Are they responsible?
 
We've always had divisive rhetoric in campaigns, and supporters have always gotten very passionate and even angry. But we have never seen anything like this, ever.

It's why I brought it up. I think Trump's brand of divisiveness is unique, and worse. He thrives on pitting groups against one another. Even w/ the judge from Indiana who has Mexican heritage - if you have any association with a certain group, you're "them." You're different.

Don't try to compare it to what Hillary says, or what the average political candidate says. There IS a reason that this violence & disruption is following the Trump campaign, and no one else's, nor anyone who we've seen in decades. This is absolutely not a coincidence. And it's okay to talk about that.

But Hillary scaring people about nuclear war is perfectly acceptable to you, right?
 
Crazy! I was just thinking to myself, "Do you know what this thread is missing? A completely lame comment from Seahawk that ignores the discussion."

Quite a coincidence.
 
And I said that...where again?

Oh, never mind - this is like that thread where we were talking about Hiroshima, and you said it meant I liked ISIS & & the Nazis & the IRA & the Spanish Inquisition because I didn't bring them up too.

Forgot that was your m.o.
 
Thing can talk about Trump's divisiveness as a possible cause, but how dare anyone mention Hillary's divisive fear mongering.

Typical dopey Thingy.
 
You can mention it, but to imply that I'm okay with it?

Fuck you, you fucking insufferable moron.

I didn't imply you dumbass, I asked you a simple question and you go hysterical. Why don't you just answer the question and stop being silly.

But Hillary scaring people about nuclear war is perfectly acceptable to you, right?
 
I didn't imply you dumbass, I asked you a simple question and you go hysterical. Why don't you just answer the question and stop being silly.

But Hillary scaring people about nuclear war is perfectly acceptable to you, right?

I'm asking this sincerely: you don't think the wording of the bolded implies anything?
 
I'm asking this sincerely: you don't think the wording of the bolded implies anything?

Oh my gosh, what a baby.

Do you find Hillary's comment about nuclear war acceptable?

Do you think some of the rhetoric on the left could be responsible for this violence?
 
We've always had divisive rhetoric in campaigns, and supporters have always gotten very passionate and even angry. But we have never seen anything like this, ever.

It's why I brought it up. I think Trump's brand of divisiveness is unique, and worse. He thrives on pitting groups against one another. Even w/ the judge from Indiana who has Mexican heritage - if you have any association with a certain group, you're "them." You're different.

Don't try to compare it to what Hillary says, or what the average political candidate says. There IS a reason that this violence & disruption is following the Trump campaign, and no one else's, nor anyone who we've seen in decades. This is absolutely not a coincidence. And it's okay to talk about that.
what Clinton does is exclude by partial inclusion..her campaign is to women, blacks, LGBT and reliable democratic interest groups.
It's excluding on principle whites, men, nationalists ( as opposed to globalists)..it's done for deliberate political gain too.
Is Trump more crude in his language? yes.

But does Trump feel passionately that we are loosing our way internationally and becoming patsies?
Trump believes that the Mexican government is a threat to US sovereignty..and I think they are too.
They let too many central americans pass thru, while having a tight southern border for their immigration
Trumps problem is he cannot speak softly and carry a big stick, he has to whack everybody he disagrees with.
He blames "Mexican rapists" instead of using "Mexican gov't who allow criminals to cross over" ( my words)

So what?

So you beea him at the ballot box, and punish his aggressive speech there .
This is not the thread to debate the candidates style.
I am telling you no matter what the language unless it's truly incendiary to riot it's to be tolerated.
and looking for reasons to justify/explain reasons people become violent is the same as excusing them
 
more wonderful tolerance from the intolerant left..

Another article implied that Trump was responsible for "inciting" the protests, by holding the rallies; which would seem to mean that the Trump protestors are unable to control their own behavior, :palm:

It also appears that the Police "decided" to wait 90 minutes, before deciding to interfere with the protestors invoking their freedom of speech.
 
It would be nice if someday, we could stop ascribing the negative actions of a small few to millions of people.

It's a lofty goal - but I think achievable.

You mean like those few who use guns to murder people, as opposed to the millions who aren't and haven't committed any crimes?
 
Another article implied that Trump was responsible for "inciting" the protests, by holding the rallies; which would seem to mean that the Trump protestors are unable to control their own behavior, :palm:

It also appears that the Police "decided" to wait 90 minutes, before deciding to interfere with the protestors invoking their freedom of speech.
you should source articles like that -my suggestion -to futher the discussion
 
The Trump protester who was pelted with eggs was taunting the crowd, it was still wrong for them to pelt her, and another man who was attacked was protected by protesters from other protestors.

What was she doing, that was considered taunting?

<This won't be answered, because Rana claims to have me on IA; but even if I wasn't on IA, the question makes her uncomfortable, she really has no idea, and is just quoting a news article>
 
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