Clinton emails continue to be non-scandal, disappointing Republicans

christiefan915

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"While we were all busy laughing about how insecure Donald Trump is about the size of his manhood, the New York Times released this story, the latest development in the case of Hillary Clinton’s emails:

A former aide to Hillary Clinton has turned over to the F.B.I. computer security logs from Mrs. Clinton’s private server, records that showed no evidence of foreign hacking, according to people close to a federal investigation into Mrs. Clinton’s emails. The security logs bolster Mrs. Clinton’s assertion that her use of a personal email account to conduct State Department business while she was the secretary of state did not put American secrets into the hands of hackers or foreign governments.

The former aide, Bryan Pagliano, began cooperating with federal agents last fall, according to interviews with a federal law enforcement official and others close to the case. Mr. Pagliano described how he set up the server in Mrs. Clinton’s home in Chappaqua, N.Y., and according to two of the people, he provided agents the security logs. What does this tell us? Although it’s possible there will be some future discovery, it appears that whether Clinton’s emails were vulnerable to hacking or not, they weren’t actually hacked. That’s good news! The closest thing they’ve found is some attempts at phishing scams, which means that Clinton’s email is just like every other email address on earth.

  1. Clinton set up a personal email account and used it for work. Even though previous Secretaries of State did the same thing, and even though thousands of people in government use personal emails for work, she still shouldn’t have done it. She may have violated department policies, but there’s no evidence she broke any laws.
  2. Clinton has said it was a mistake and apologized for it.
  3. There were concerns that her email server could have been vulnerable to hacking from a foreign power. But it does not appear to have been hacked.
  4. None of the work-related emails she sent and received were marked classified at the time. However, some 200 of them were retroactively classified. This is now the subject of a spat between the State Department and the intelligence community, which classifies many things that people elsewhere in the government think are absurd to classify.
  5. For Clinton to be charged with mishandling classified information, she would have had to knowingly passed such information to someone not authorized to have it — like David Petraeus showing classified documents to his mistress — or acted with such gross negligence that people without authorization were bound to see it. According to what we know, neither of those things happened.
  6. The FBI is investigating the matter, but has said that Clinton herself is not a target of that investigation, meaning that they don’t suspect that she committed any crime.
  7. That former aide, Bryan Pagliano, has been granted immunity by the Justice Department and is working with them as they complete their investigation, which will probably conclude this spring.
Now let’s be honest. When this story broke, Republicans were desperately hoping that we would learn that some criminal wrongdoing or catastrophic security breach had taken place, so they could then use that against Clinton in her run for the White House. But that turns out not to be the case. So the next best thing from their perspective is that there’s some vaguely-defined “scandal” that the public doesn’t really understand, but that voters will hold against her if you just repeat the words “Clinton email scandal” often enough.

They may have gotten that. I’ve certainly seen plenty of voters quoted in press accounts saying some version of, “I don’t trust Clinton, ’cause you know, that email thing.” I’m sure 99 percent of them couldn’t tell you what they think Clinton actually did that’s so awful, but they know that there was something about emails, and it was, like, a scandal, right?

I don’t [...] justify Clinton’s original decision to set up the private server. She shouldn’t have done that, not only because it was against department policy, but also because she should have been extra careful, knowing her history, to make sure she minded her Ps and Qs on everything like this. She should have known that once she started running for president there were going to be FOIA requests and lawsuits and investigations of everything she did as Secretary of State. So yes, that was an error in judgment. But it wasn’t a crime — and it appears that no bad consequences for the country came of it — so we shouldn’t treat it like it was."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...-to-be-non-scandal-disappointing-republicans/
 
did we somehow miraculously enter a different dimension where she DIDN'T tell federal investigators "I have no other emails"?.......
 
  1. Clinton set up a personal email account and used it for work. Even though previous Secretaries of State did the same thing, and even though thousands of people in government use personal emails for work, she still shouldn’t have done it. She may have violated department policies, but there’s no evidence she broke any laws.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...-to-be-non-scandal-disappointing-republicans/




Well, you only have Condoleezza Rice, Colin Powell and Madeleine Albright.....

Albright didn't use email at all....
Rice has maintained she did not use email during her tenure as secretary. To be clear, Rice did not use email as Secretary nor have a personal email account.

Powell used a personal private acct. but sent emails to others to their State Dept. addresses, to gov. addresses.
So those emails are on State Dept. computers.

Rice and Powell received sensitive information via private accounts, thats something out of their control.

The State Department identified 10 messages sent to Rice's immediate staff that were classified and 2 sent to Powell...
went to, not sent by, for a grand total of 12.

Powell's pair of messages that the State is calling "Confidential," ( the lowest tier of classification.) had come from two different U.S. ambassadors abroad.

The emails, Elijah Cummings (D) said, appear to have no classification markings, and it is still unclear if the content of the emails was or should have been considered classified when the emails were originally written and sent.

Clinton's situation was significantly different than Powell's. They also pointed to the sheer volume of classified documents that passed through Clinton’s server, and noted that some classifications reached higher, more sensitive levels, including “top secret.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/fbi-colin-powell-email-probe-218748#ixzz41z0Xvp6v

So #1 is not just 'kinda bogus'.....its totally bogus.
 
How long are you going to live in the Dimension of Denial, where she gets imprisoned over this?

I really don't care if she ever wears orange.....I do want people to just sit down and admit "yes, she is lying".......now maybe you want to add that you don't care and you still want her to be your president even though she lied to federal investigators, but at least have the guts to admit the obvious truth.....
 
I really don't care if she ever wears orange.....I do want people to just sit down and admit "yes, she is lying".......now maybe you want to add that you don't care and you still want her to be your president even though she lied to federal investigators, but at least have the guts to admit the obvious truth.....

What are you talking about specifically?
 
What about the "thousands of people in government use personal emails for work", bravs?

No law or regulation against using personal emails for work, as has been pointed out by Hillary about thousand times.....

Sending secret and top secret information is a crime and storing secret and top secret or any sensitive emails on a non-gov. non secured server is....and a person as high
in the food chain as Sec. of State is expected to know the difference whether its marked as such or not by the content alone....

Would you think the head of the DOD or Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, or the Director of the CIA could distinguish between secret or top secret data and non confidential data even if its not marked as such.....

Have no fear, Hillary is well protected, being a Dem. in a totally Dem. administration.....and a presidential pardon isn't out of the question.
 
We don't even know if they were investigated, do we......

wtf.......where has your head been.....do the words Benghazi investigation ring any bells?.......they asked for her emails and she said she had turned in all her emails........then the issue of a private server came up and she said "oh, all the emails were destroyed except for some personal ones between me and Chelsea and Bill"........and then the server was found and among others there are 22 so classified they can't even be redacted and given to the investigators, so obviously they weren't personal chit chat with Chelsea.......of course the fucking emails are being investigated......

then some dimbulb comes along and says "Clinton emails continue to be non-scandal"......
 
wtf.......where has your head been.....do the words Benghazi investigation ring any bells?.......they asked for her emails and she said she had turned in all her emails........then the issue of a private server came up and she said "oh, all the emails were destroyed except for some personal ones between me and Chelsea and Bill"........and then the server was found and among others there are 22 so classified they can't even be redacted and given to the investigators, so obviously they weren't personal chit chat with Chelsea.......of course the fucking emails are being investigated......

:palm: WADR Pmp you're becoming as thick as a plank. Please read what I'm responding to before sounding off, i.e. the reference to the thousands in govt. who use personal emails, etc.

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What about the "thousands of people in government use personal emails for work", bravs?

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Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet

how many of them told investigators that they turned all of their emails over to them and there aren't any more.......when there were......

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Originally Posted by christiefan915
We don't even know if they were investigated, do we......
 
:palm: WADR Pmp you're becoming as thick as a plank. Please read what I'm responding to before sounding off, i.e. the reference to the thousands in govt. who use personal emails, etc.

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Originally Posted by christiefan915
What about the "thousands of people in government use personal emails for work", bravs?

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Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet

how many of them told investigators that they turned all of their emails over to them and there aren't any more.......when there were......

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Originally Posted by christiefan915
We don't even know if they were investigated, do we......

Everyone that has access to sensitive data takes lie detector tests given at random times or when a leak is suspected....its an ongoing thing while they are employed .....

Its just the first line of defense in uncovering spies, etc....even though we know its not 100% effective.
 
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