Militia takes over federal building in Oregon

[Buckly J. Ewer]

Being armed is in no way shape or form violence.

When you break the law while conspicuously armed,,, that all changes.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

so I'm the only one supporting this? I hope they kill a bunch of feds. hi nsa

If I were in charge, the minute they declared themselves to be in unlawful rebellion against the United States I would've sent a drone in to send them to their God. The building can be rebuilt, dead rightists is priceless.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

It is nice seeing pushback against the state. I wonder how, when all is said an done, things will change.

They want to open up yet more of our few national forests to capitalist exploitation. It's terrorism and shouldn't be allowed.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

No. It's not. Domestic terrorism is killing them. Tim McVeigh... terrorism. These guys, illegal occupation but not terrorism.

Terrorism doesn't always involve killing someone, sometimes it just targets property.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

Being armed is in no way shape or form violence.

Being armed and using it to threaten others is a form of violence, it's known as assault.

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

Being armed and using it to threaten others is a form of violence, it's known as assault.

The State does not (and should not) fall under the same burden as an individual in this regard. It is not violence.

 

[Mr.Badguy]

I say let them stay there for five years, and then sarcastically congratulate them on a job well done when the two ranchers are released.

 

[Irish]

Hey man, if that's what you think... Personally I don't like how the BLM movement operates. First amendment protects peaceful assembly, this doesn't seem very peaceful.

How they operate? Or what they stand for? Anti-LE hate group. Do you want total anarchy and no police?

 

[Irish]

Armed protest is terrorism.Armed protesters at Ferguson were terrorists...Yes.

They were using violence to advance their political agendas. So yes the Ferguson rioters, technically are terrorists.

Especially when they destroy buildings like terrorists do.

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

How they operate? Or what they stand for? Anti-LE hate group. Do you want total anarchy and no police?

Woe to the poor over paid, under educated, psychopathic public servants that have to actually be held accountable when they go into a violent psychopathic rage.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

Roughly 150 armed militia men have taken over a federal wildlife building in Oregon in protest of two ranchers being sentenced to 5 years in prison for arson.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/20...d-militia-members-take-over-federal-building/

they're common criminals and should be treated as such.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

Exactly.

Using them to intimidate and threaten violence is. These people are common thugs. Arrest them and give them their day in court. If they resist arrest do what's necessary to bring these criminal thugs to justice.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

What do you suppose will happen if federal agents arrest them and carry them into paddy wagons?
Ya think they will go peacefully with side arms remaining holstered?
The simple fact that they are armed makes them terrorists.
The arms are a threat that they will not be arrested peacefully.

they still wouldn't be terrorist. Just common criminals. It's not terrorism until they attack innocent people in an effort to influence a political agenda or cause by intimidation and violence.

 

[Buckly J. Ewer]

they're common criminals and should be treated as such.

It's far from over. The sentence reduction goal is a ruse. Bundy used it for an excuse to motivate the rabble just so he could test the waters for an armed insurrection against the federal government.
He is a traitor and an anarchist.
Every one of his followers need to be arrested and put away. Especially Bundy.

 

[ChoppedLiver]

Yeah, what do they think they will achieve? They aren't going to get those people's sentence changed.

It seems as though it already HAS been changed.

That's what this is all about.

Not that you idiot libtards are interested in the actual FACTS in this case, but here they are...

Armed Protesters in Oregon Occupy Remote Federal Outpost at Wildlife Refuge After Marching Against Sentence of Father and Son Ranchers

Justice Department appealed the sentence to get it extended to the mandatory minimum, which the district chief judge thought was "grossly disproportionate."

Yesterday afternoon, as many as 300 demonstrators gathered in Burns, Oregon, to protest a federal appeals court's decision to extend the length of a sentence handed down by a district chief judge in the arson case of ranchers father and son Dwight and Steven Hammond.

The two started a series of range fires on their private property which eventually spread onto federal land. The federal government prosecuted them in 2012 on an array of charges, from conspiracy to attempting to damage property through fire. They were found guilty on only two arson counts, which covered activities (setting fires) the Hammonds admitted to. As part of their plea deal, they agreed not to appeal their sentences. 73-year-old Dwight Hammond was sentenced to three years in prison and his 46-year-old son Steven to 11 months, below the mandatory minimum of five years, which the judge, Michael Hogan, called "grossly disproportionate" and said would "shock his conscience."

As per the deal, the Hammonds didn't appeal the sentence. But the Department of Justice (DOJ) did, getting the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals to overturn Judge Hogan's decision and order the Hammonds to return to jail. They are supposed to do so on Monday.

Many media outlets are not reporting these particular facts. Oregon Live's article, listed as "highly cited" by Google News, mentions only that the protesters opposed the Hammonds' prosecution and that the father-son duo would be reporting to jail Monday.

more ...

https://reason.com/blog/2016/01/03/armed-protesters-occupy-remote-federal-o

 

[Mott the Hoople]

It's far from over. The sentence reduction goal is a ruse. Bundy used it for an excuse to motivate the rabble just so he could test the waters for an armed insurrection against the federal government.
He is a traitor and an anarchist.
Every one of his followers need to be arrested and put away. Especially Bundy.

Bucky I've told you a million time to never exaggerate.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

It seems as though it already HAS been changed.

That's what this is all about.

Not that you idiot libtards are interested in the actual FACTS in this case, but here they are...

Armed Protesters in Oregon Occupy Remote Federal Outpost at Wildlife Refuge After Marching Against Sentence of Father and Son Ranchers

Justice Department appealed the sentence to get it extended to the mandatory minimum, which the district chief judge thought was "grossly disproportionate."

Yesterday afternoon, as many as 300 demonstrators gathered in Burns, Oregon, to protest a federal appeals court's decision to extend the length of a sentence handed down by a district chief judge in the arson case of ranchers father and son Dwight and Steven Hammond.

The two started a series of range fires on their private property which eventually spread onto federal land. The federal government prosecuted them in 2012 on an array of charges, from conspiracy to attempting to damage property through fire. They were found guilty on only two arson counts, which covered activities (setting fires) the Hammonds admitted to. As part of their plea deal, they agreed not to appeal their sentences. 73-year-old Dwight Hammond was sentenced to three years in prison and his 46-year-old son Steven to 11 months, below the mandatory minimum of five years, which the judge, Michael Hogan, called "grossly disproportionate" and said would "shock his conscience."

As per the deal, the Hammonds didn't appeal the sentence. But the Department of Justice (DOJ) did, getting the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals to overturn Judge Hogan's decision and order the Hammonds to return to jail. They are supposed to do so on Monday.

Many media outlets are not reporting these particular facts. Oregon Live's article, listed as "highly cited" by Google News, mentions only that the protesters opposed the Hammonds' prosecution and that the father-son duo would be reporting to jail Monday.

more ...

https://reason.com/blog/2016/01/03/armed-protesters-occupy-remote-federal-o

Even if this is a miscarriage of justice there are constitutional means to dissent. Using arms to occupy a Federal facility is not one of them.

 

[Buckly J. Ewer]

Bucky I've told you a million time to never exaggerate.

A million times...Lol...
It's not really exaggeration. This guy wants to take land from the US government by armed force. He has made his intentions clear. He wants a shootout with the feds.

 

[ChoppedLiver]

Even if this is a miscarriage of justice there are constitutional means to dissent. Using arms to occupy a Federal facility is not one of them.

Who said they used arms?

Did they shoot their way into the place?

 

[canceled.2021.1]

It's simply not a First Amendmemt right to take over a building. If you can't grasp the concept, I can't help you.

Like I said you didn't give a fuck when OWS did it in Wisconsin. You cheered it. Go fuck yourself