Scalia’s controversial remarks about African Americans expose U.S. higher education

Norah said:
That's right, if, but what if they accept you because of your skin color and a need to make the campus feel more diverse? Is that truly in the best interest of the student that academically had no shot but because of something they can't control gets a spot over a student that met or surpassed the qualifications? I think that's really the essence behind why so many people don't like the idea of affirmative action. Someone is punished regardless because of something they cant control, skin color.
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Maybe that's why the ethnicity section was removed from the Common App, trying to make it color-blind.
 
I Love America said:
Are you angling for retard of the month honors?

Scalia wasn't stating his opinion. He was referencing an amicus brief on mismatch theory.

You should have your internet access revoked due to your utter stupidity. Unfortunately, the facts won't dissuade you from your racism and hatred of a black conservative.

I am truly embarrassed for you
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What is your problem? I read the same article thousands of others read who disagreed with Scalia. I'm certain you'd defend his comments only because he's a RW hack like yourself.
 
cawacko said:
His statement was within the context of the argument being made.
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How do you not see this as his opinion no matter the context? He's giving his opinion on why he doesn't agree with Garre's arguments.

"One of the briefs pointed out that most of the black scientists in this country don’t come from schools like the University of Texas. They come from lesser schools where they do not feel that they’re being pushed ahead in classes that are too fast for them. I’m just not impressed by the fact that the University of Texas may have fewer. Maybe it ought to have fewer."

I agree with Garre who also criticized Scalia's legal reasoning: "This Court heard and rejected that argument, with respect, Justice Scalia, in the Grutter case [which said universities may consider race in a limited way because they have a compelling interest in creating diverse student bodies], a case that our opponents haven’t asked this Court to overrule. If you look at the academic performance of holistic minority admits versus the top 10 percent admits, over time, they — they fare better."
 
christiefan915 said:
How do you not see this as his opinion no matter the context? He's giving his opinion on why he doesn't agree with Garre's arguments.

"One of the briefs pointed out that most of the black scientists in this country don’t come from schools like the University of Texas. They come from lesser schools where they do not feel that they’re being pushed ahead in classes that are too fast for them. I’m just not impressed by the fact that the University of Texas may have fewer. Maybe it ought to have fewer."

I agree with Garre who also criticized Scalia's legal reasoning: "This Court heard and rejected that argument, with respect, Justice Scalia, in the Grutter case [which said universities may consider race in a limited way because they have a compelling interest in creating diverse student bodies], a case that our opponents haven’t asked this Court to overrule. If you look at the academic performance of holistic minority admits versus the top 10 percent admits, over time, they — they fare better."
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I've read his remarks a couple of times. If I thought they were bigoted i would say so. Scalia is not above reproach. He's asking the question about results of students who have gotten in to a higher rates school than their grades would normally allow. That's a legitimate topic.
 
cawacko said:
I've read his remarks a couple of times. If I thought they were bigoted i would say so. Scalia is not above reproach. He's asking the question about results of students who have gotten in to a higher rates school than their grades would normally allow. That's a legitimate topic.
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What about Garre's response, that the court already rejected that argument?
 
christiefan915 said:
What's yours?
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Well, lets see.....because Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia is obviously not a stupid man and I don't think he means to come across as a bigot....I'll answer.

You make the leap that Scalia was talking about ALL black students when he was talking about only those that required affirmative action to get them entry into college....
So lets make that clear from the start.

Our own public schools have accelerated classes, college prep classes, and even trade school and remedial education....

why is that ?

Some people(students) are just smarter than others and don't thrive in classes they find boring and others don't thrive in classes that are far over their mental ability at some stage of life...
I seen no reason to question that thinking about college students as well....we all learn at our own different paces and we all have our limits....
Many whites as well as blacks or Asians or whatever will not advance in higher education, thats just the way it is, more reality for you...

I makes sense that you wouldn't put an average student into an accelerated class that he or she will have little hope of understanding or passing just because that student is a particular color or from a particular culture....even if that particular color is white....advances should be earned on an even playing field....so its our duty to see that that field IS EVEN FOR ALL.....
 
christiefan915 said:
What is your problem? I read the same article thousands of others read who disagreed with Scalia. I'm certain you'd defend his comments only because he's a RW hack like yourself.
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My problem is that you for some reason have crossed into Deshtard stupid lately. I didn't think it possible that anyone could be as huge an uninformed, ignorant partisan hack as Deshtard, yet here you are.

I really am embarrassed for you.

Since it is Christmas and I am a Christian, I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you don't really believe what you posted and that you are merely trolling the board. Otherwise I have to conclude that you are an utter ignoramus and I don't want to do that.
 
I Love America said:
My problem is that you for some reason have crossed into Deshtard stupid lately. I didn't think it possible that anyone could be as huge an uninformed, ignorant partisan hack as Deshtard, yet here you are.

I really am embarrassed for you.

Since it is Christmas and I am a Christian, I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you don't really believe what you posted and that you are merely trolling the board. Otherwise I have to conclude that you are an utter ignoramus and I don't want to do that.
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You can think whatever your want. The opinions of anonymous people on a forum don't really mean that much to me.

I post what I'm interested in and the fact that others weigh in on it is a bonus. Unlike you and your ilk I'm not spamming the board with hate posts against blacks, Muslims, immigrants, refugees, etc.

Since it's Christmas I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that your signature pic of nuking Muslims at the Kaaba is you trolling the board. Because it's certainly as far from Christian as it gets.
 
NOVA said:
According to the most recent statistics, the nationwide college graduation rate for black students stands at an appallingly low rate of 42 percent. This figure is 20 percentage points below the 62 percent rate for white students.
Whats your guess as to why......
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You didn't graduate college
Why
 
Norah said:
That's right, if, but what if they accept you because of your skin color and a need to make the campus feel more diverse? Is that truly in the best interest of the student that academically had no shot but because of something they can't control gets a spot over a student that met or surpassed the qualifications? I think that's really the essence behind why so many people don't like the idea of affirmative action. Someone is punished regardless because of something they cant control, skin color.
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I bet this kind of racism is rampant at your Jesu freak school
 
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