GODS NOT DEAD!

Jarod said:
The unification of Father, Son and Holy Spirit is the defining of God as everything.....

In todays vernacular, the it would be "the Parent, Child and Spiritual world."
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I think it would be better if he had six personas, one for each of the beautiful and unique colors of the rainbow:

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And they team up to fight evil, but can combine themselves into one entity, God, who's white, like the pure light of the prismatic colors recombined.

On second though, that's kind of racist. Maybe he's black, like in the subtractive process, the pure black of paints mixed together? But that might make the show's demo skew urban, not many ad dollars there...

Let's just scrap the whole idea.
 
Tyrion the Imp said:
I think it would be better if he had six personas, one for each of the beautiful and unique colors of the rainbow:

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And they team up to fight evil, but can combine themselves into one entity, God, who's white, like the pure light of the prismatic colors recombined.

On second though, that's kind of racist. Maybe he's black, like in the subtractive process, the pure black of paints mixed together? But that might make the show's demo skew urban, not many ad dollars there...

Let's just scrap the whole idea.
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Captain Planet never made so much sense as it does now...
 
wiseones2cents said:
Isn't GOD omnipresent? LOL Why would HE have to make an alter ego?lol Sorry but the Bible CLEARLY explains that Jesus is NOT GOD. Jesus was SENT by GOD, TAUGHT by GOD, given authority by GOD, to do GOD's will and not His own(which clearly show two different wills), etc... shall I go on?
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John 1

King James Version (KJV)

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

The Word being Jesus, It is obvious we will not agree, rather than argue, I will agree to disagree.
 
Tyrion the Imp said:
During most of Rome's history, there was 1 emperor, besides in the Tetrarch, when there were 4, and when two emperors ruled over two technically independent eastern and western empire's that yet claimed to be one. There were five emperors for about a few days after Constantine's death, until Constantine's three sons murdered all the other males in the family at his funeral, including two of those five, leaving just them. And that lasted until two of those got together and killed the other one a couple of years later. I suppose the trinity would be referring to this brief period of time?
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wait.....you're complaining a 'trinity' can't have more than three members?.....
 
Tyrion the Imp said:
Yeah, I bet that pun totally works works in Hebrew, and you didn't just make that shit up off of the top of your head. Actually, they were probably just speaking English the whole time.
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HUH? English please. The Bible seems to have many names for GOD. The Tetragrammaton, Adonis, Jehovah, Eli, even Baal means Lord in other languages.

OH and here is a secret for you. The Tetragrammaton stands for King of Kings. Basically the Lord of Lords at the time.
 
Tyrion the Imp said:
The Old Testament is a work of bronze age mythology, the New Testament is of the classical age. The laws in the OT are more primitive just because it was a moral code for a more primitive day, when times were tough and the people had to resort to tough means. The New Testaments moral code based was instead constructed for a stable, sedentary, agricultural civilization, it's more modern, so it's closer to our own. Whether or not their "fleshly" or "spiritual", I don't give a shit. Being spiritual is just like being religious, except more annoying.
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The book of Genesis seems to be a book compiled of Legends from various sources. For example they say the flood story was inspired by the epic of Gilgamesh. Was there a flood? Most likely but it was exaggerated like most of the stories in those days. There are atleast three scenarios that could have caused extensive flooding. None of which would have been global and wiping out all life.

It is clear you don't understand the Spiritual aspect of the NT, therefore making your opinion, invalid, Yes being spiritual is like being a born again Christian. Something it seems you cannot comprehend.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
actually ba - son.....el - god......son of god.....
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ummmmm no.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baal

Baal, also rendered Baʿal (Biblical Hebrew בַּעַל, pronounced [ˈbaʕal]), is a North-West Semitic title and honorific meaning "master" or "lord"[1] that is used for various gods(LORDS) who were patrons of cities in the Levant and Asia Minor, cognate to Akkadian Bēlu.

Also note ancestral worshipping was popular in those days. Even after they were dead.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
interesting we have so many movies of interest to Christians at the moment.....God is Not Dead, Son of God, Noah, Heaven is Real.......
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At a time when the Christian brainwashed are being schooled all over the globe by the atheists? The elites feel the need to reinforce their brainwashed minds of their faith.lol
 
Tyrion the Imp said:
I think we're talking on a different level. Doctrinally, Christ of course more important than Constantine. Historically, Constantine's decision to make Christianity the official religion of the strongest and most populous empire of the day hugely spurred it's subsequent popularity. Claiming that someone else is actually more important than the most doctrinally important figure in a movement has a degree of irony to it, that was really the whole point. It seems you are a person differently abled when it comes to irony, so, I apologize, and shall attempt less subtlety with you in the future.
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If not him it would have been someone else. Though yes, he officially made it legal and somewhat stopped the persecution of Christians.



Constantine converted around 312, but like most pagan rulers who converted to Christianity, he was not the most studious of followers. He did a heaping of evil throughout his time, as well as hedging his bets a bit and showing some remaining reverence to the traditional gods and religion his people had held to since time immemorial in addition to the new fangled, eastern crap called Christianity his mother believed in that he thought might be strong because he won a battle once with crosses on his shields. He still did more to popularize the religion than anyone before or since, and, in the Nicaean council, which he called in 325, he laid down the basic trinitarian theology that would largely guide the religion for the rest of its history. In that, he's probably had more effect on the theology of Christianity than whatever remained of Jesus's actual thought in the bible after decades of people altering it to sexy it up and misattributing things to him before the four different conflicting versions of his life were actually written down.
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Well you are correct in a lot of things here. Christianity was interpreted in the Emperor's favor and most of the doctrine was dictated and not agreed upon. You disagreed? You got killed. For Example. The Arians who believe Jesus is not GOD, were persecuted by the emerging Christian dictatorships of Alexandria and Rome. The Truth? Most Christians and even the ones that are responsible for the Gospel, believed in Arianism.



Christians had been persecuted since before the 100's, basically from the time it was decided that they weren't Jews. Only Jews had the exemption of paying respect to the emperor, because they were old and the Romans had respect for old things. In refusing to honor the Gods of their people, Christians were often blamed for natural disasters and such, it was assumed the Gods were punishing the whole for their toleration of Christians. However, before Diocletian, you pretty much had to try to be persecuted by the Roman authorities. They didn't bother to do regular investigations, informers were usually just ignored, and Christians could get it of it by rote recitation of some pagan words, after which no questions would be asked. Diocletian made it a fairly central policy, but even then it was not uniformly enforced by the other emperors in his tetrarchy - him and the other eastern emperor enforced it in their domain, the two western emperors largely didn't care. Then Constantine came onto the scene and abruptly did a 180.
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Actually it was first the jews that persecuted the Christians. The Jews enjoyed some influence due to their wealth(even among the rulers) and riled up the masses against the Christians. Just like they are doing today against the Muslims. It reached its peak under Diocletian.

Whatever, Diocletian is still my favorite emperor ever.
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You were probably a fan of Hitler too, no?



Doesn't sound like much of a reward, IMO, to be non-punished.

There was an African governor who, during Diocletian's persecutions, required nothing of potential Christians but that they hand over their holy books to prove their faith in the Gods. After Constantine, these guys were forgiven, but a schismatic movement called Donatism emerged which rejected these converts. I believe this is the original source of your story, exaggerated by whatever fanatics you read.
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The position held power,influence and wealth. And your an idiot. The Donatists weren't against converts. They were against the Church leaders that sold out their flock. Go back to school.



Eh, I don't think Constantine did that, too new to the whole thing. Various offices in the church have over the years been occupied by relatives of powerful people on and off. The church was a good place for a family to put an extra son they didn't want feuding with the firsts claim. Of course, these attempts failed as often as they succeeded - such as when the Borja family tried to build their own personal empire out of the papal states when one of their own, Pope Alexander VI, got elected, and then he died and the papa enclave almost immediately thereafter elected him with the Borja's biggest enemy, Pope Julius II.

As for corruption, meh, that's just one of the things that happens, whatever theology or ideology you hold to would inevitably turn out to be just a bad, and anyway, I just don't give a rats ass. Calling the whole church corrupt forever, in contrast to your own apparently perfect, true theology, is a protestant trope as old as shit, it isn't any more enlightening now that you've reiterated for the millionth time, or interesting to me as a history of the church.
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You are mistaken. Look at the history of abotts especially. The Church was corrupted more then not. They used to sell positions of power within the church to the highest bidders, as it was a good investment.



Well, at least they're not the Essenes.
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The Essenes helped the enslaved Romans(and others) from the Germanic Macedonia conquerors. Eventually the Germanic tribes over through the Western Roman Empire and took hold of the "Holy Roman Empire", Leaving only the east(The Byzantium empire).
 
patriot66 said:
John 1

King James Version (KJV)

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

The Word being Jesus, It is obvious we will not agree, rather than argue, I will agree to disagree.
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Sure. I had to switch to Linear mode.

OK. First of all? You believe the Bible to be infallible and 100% truth. I KNOW it's not and that there are many different interpretations all of them claiming to be correct.

In the Beginning there was the word of GOD(Scripture). Basically they are speaking of the Prophecies. And how all things came about via the Prophecies.

The prophecies represented hope( a light at the end of the tunnel).

And the word became flesh. Meaning that the Prophecy that the Messiah would come was fulfilled by the coming of Jesus.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
And which of the HUNDREDS of translations of the Bible are you consulting?

I am trying to have a reasonable discussion with you about this, so I'd really appreciate it if you'd knock off the snark, please.

If God is omnipotent and everyWHERE as I claim then its possible he's also everyWHEN. If he can BE anywhen he wants, whenever he likes, then it stands to reason he could go back BEFORE the start of time and witness it's beginning.
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You gave an answer that is similar to, " no one knows the mysteries of GOD" when they cant answer a question.lol That irks me!

Second? You don't understand time nor space to make that statement. How can you go back to the beginning of time? Are you talking our time or GOD's time? GOD could exist outside our time and space, but not time and space itself. I think we have different perceptions of "GOD". Is there something beyond our universe? I would say without a doubt YES.....

Point is Jesus is not GOD. And I can prove it via Scripture.
 
Tyrion the Imp said:
I think it would be better if he had six personas, one for each of the beautiful and unique colors of the rainbow:

777px-Gay_flag.svg.png


And they team up to fight evil, but can combine themselves into one entity, God, who's white, like the pure light of the prismatic colors recombined.

On second though, that's kind of racist. Maybe he's black, like in the subtractive process, the pure black of paints mixed together? But that might make the show's demo skew urban, not many ad dollars there...

Let's just scrap the whole idea.
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Good post.
 
Granule said:
God can't be everywhere at the same time, as He is still just one being. However, He can have all things before Him so that nothing escapes His attention.
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Really?

You know for certain GOD can't be everywhere at the same time?

What evidence do you have to support this?
 
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