Jeffrey A. Sinclair, gets $20,000 fine, no jail time

christiefan915

christiefan915

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Justice denied AGAIN. WTH is wrong with the military court system that this piece of shit gets a slap on the wrist? Sinclair was caught dead to rights and copped a plea when he should be getting jail time. What a great message to send when there's an epidemic of sexual assault of women in the military... might makes right. When it was over this trash said “All I want to do now is go north and hug my kids and wife.” I wonder if any cons are going to step up and criticize Mrs. Sinclair for not kicking him to the curb?

"A disgraced Army general who admitted carrying on a prolonged, turbulent affair with an officer under his direct command and having improper relationships with two other women was reprimanded and fined $20,000 by a military judge Thursday.
To his visible relief, however, Brig. Gen. Jeffrey A. Sinclair was spared a jail sentence. The decorated combat veteran hugged his lawyers and friends after his sentence was imposed by Col. James Pohl, the military judge who oversaw his court-martial at Fort Bragg, N.C...

...For two years, Sinclair’s court-martial had made him the public face of the military’s struggle to prevent and police sexual misconduct in the ranks. He was only the third Army general to face court-martial in 60 years, a measure that critics called emblematic of the military’s reluctance to hold senior commanders accountable for all kinds of wrongdoing.

Although Sinclair was pleased with the outcome, his chief accuser and some advocacy groups for sex-crime victims expressed deep disappointment. Rep. Jackie Speier (D-Calif.) called the sentence “a mockery of military justice” and a “laughable punishment...”

...In the end, Sinclair pleaded guilty to adultery, maltreatment of his accuser and two other improper relationships. He also admitted to making derogatory comments about women and, when challenged by his staff, replying: “I’m a general, I’ll say whatever the [expletive] I want.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...55b650-b039-11e3-95e8-39bef8e9a48b_story.html
 
Why do liberals expect court cases to be decided through the political process? What type of society desires to nullify the findings of juries?
 
christiefan915 said:
I guess that made sense when you were typing it but I don't have a clue what it means. I'm posting about sexual assault and you respond with "elitism"?
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I am a little confused as to what exactly he did. Obviously he broke military law that forbids liaisons between subordinates and superiors but they had an affair for over two years, it seems that she wanted to get revenge for him lying and not leaving his wife. As for the wider issue of sexual assaults in the military that is indeed a serious problem.
 
Abraxas said:
I am a little confused as to what exactly he did. Obviously he broke military law that forbids liaisons between subordinates and superiors but they had an affair for over two years, it seems that she wanted to get revenge for him lying and not leaving his wife. As for the wider issue of sexual assaults in the military that is indeed a serious problem.
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Did it occur to you that he may have used undue influence to initiate and continue the affair? That it is simply wrong for a married General to have an affair with a subordinate officer?

That you are again defending sexual misbehavior by men?
 
Abraxas said:
I am a little confused as to what exactly he did. Obviously he broke military law that forbids liaisons between subordinates and superiors but they had an affair for over two years, it seems that she wanted to get revenge for him lying and not leaving his wife. As for the wider issue of sexual assaults in the military that is indeed a serious problem.
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The man's a pig, no two ways about it. I certainly don't give the woman a pass either but she's not the one being charged. Anyone who enlists in the military knows what he's in for and how rigid the rules are. Yet Sinclair apparently believed he was above the law because he's a general.

"In the end, Sinclair pleaded guilty to adultery, maltreatment of his accuser and two other improper relationships. He also admitted to making derogatory comments about women and, when challenged by his staff, replying: “I’m a general, I’ll say whatever the [expletive] I want.”

Sordid details spill out in rare court-martial of a general on sex charges
 
christiefan915 said:
I guess that made sense when you were typing it but I don't have a clue what it means. I'm posting about sexual assault and you respond with "elitism"?
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I am amused by your willful ignorance. if you refuse to see the 'elitism' of our country, you should probably not bother discussing political issues. especially if you're this clueless.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
I am amused by your willful ignorance. if you refuse to see the 'elitism' of our country, you should probably not bother discussing political issues. especially if you're this clueless.
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I'm a liberal, of course I see elitism. I suppose you meant that the general got a slap on the wrist because he was a military elite. Now explain the part about the establishment wanting these things.
 
Rune said:
Did it occur to you that he may have used undue influence to initiate and continue the affair? That it is simply wrong for a married General to have an affair with a subordinate officer?

That you are again defending sexual misbehavior by men?
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you have a point....I remember the left saying exactly the same thing about Clinton when he was CiC.....
 
PostmodernProphet said:
you have a point....I remember the left saying exactly the same thing about Clinton when he was CiC.....
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Of course, that idea was rejected by the Clinton apologists then and still....its amazing they are so blind to their own hypocrisy while imagining others hypocrisy where it
doesn't exist.
 
I don't know that it "seems" she was lying to get revenge on him for not leaving his wife. She says he sexually assaulted her on several occasions. His defense was that she was lying because he didn't leave his wife. I would like to know if other claims of sexual assault were filed against him before I decided that something his defense lawyer used was actually true. But then, I don't automatically defend rapists, you know, just because. Certainly not because I'm a rapist myself. I'm sure there's some other explanation for the knee-jerk "she lied, she's not a virgin, she was drunk, she wore a short skirt, he didn't do it" reaction.

There just must be. People we know from posting on the internet aren't rapists. That's just a fact. Rapists always post "I'm a rapist" in their "about me" profiles.
 
Darla said:
I don't know that it "seems" she was lying to get revenge on him for not leaving his wife. She says he sexually assaulted her on several occasions. His defense was that she was lying because he didn't leave his wife. I would like to know if other claims of sexual assault were filed against him before I decided that something his defense lawyer used was actually true. But then, I don't automatically defend rapists, you know, just because. Certainly not because I'm a rapist myself. I'm sure there's some other explanation for the knee-jerk "she lied, she's not a virgin, she was drunk, she wore a short skirt, he didn't do it" reaction.

There just must be. People we know from posting on the internet aren't rapists. That's just a fact. Rapists always post "I'm a rapist" in their "about me" profiles.
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that's because most of you don't believe in innocent until proven guilty
 
Looks to me that Poppa Panda Sexy Pants pissed her off big time.

During a pretrial hearing last year, the woman testified that the pair had sex in the general’s quarters in Iraq, in her car in a German parking lot, in an office in Afghanistan and even on a hotel balcony in Arizona. The affair may well have remained a secret however the general and the captain ended up bombarding one another with explicit and angry text messages.


The Washington Post has revealed how one read: ‘You are my heart and world you beautiful magnificent man,’ whilst the captain texted the general, ‘I need you and I mean really deeply profusely need you.’ There was also a darker side to the affair where the captain threatened to kill herself or expose Sinclair to his superiors. The affair exploded out into the open when in Kandahar, Afghanistan, in March 2012, the captain was snooping through Sinclair’s e-mail in his office and discovered loving messages to his wife, as well as love notes to another female Army officer. The captain has admitted she flew into a jealous rage first firing off an e-mail to the other female officer, saying, ‘I hope you don’t think you’re the only girl that he’s sleeping with.’ Then she entered the office of Maj. Gen. James L. Huggins, then the commander of the 82nd Airborne Division and leader of all U.S. forces in southern Afghanistan and spent two hours confessing to the affair.

Phonecalls and emails followed amongst the army’s top brass and a full investigation was launched that spoke to more than 100 witnesses. This became even more serious when the captain accused Sinclair of sexual assault by forcing her to perform oral sex against her will on two occasions in Afghanistan. The Army charged Sinclair with forcible sodomy because of the oral sex allegations. The captain testified that the assaults occurred between December 2011 and February 2012 but said she cannot recall the exact dates.

Defense attorneys have accused her of making up the assault allegations to save her Army career. They said she first told one confidant that the relationship was entirely consensual but gave investigators a different version after she realised that she, too, could be kicked out of the Army for adultery. Sinclair also is charged with having inappropriate relations with three other female junior officers.

In November, Sinclair’s wife, Rebecca, stunned many in the Army when she wrote an op-ed column in The Washington Post to declare that she was sticking by her husband and that she blamed his infidelity on ‘the stress of war.’ Mrs Sinclair said her husband may be a cheater but not a violent abuser. ‘I don’t excuse my husband’s bad behavior or bad judgment,’ she said. ‘I never said it’s okay. I said I understand how it could happen.’ Although she has not attended most of the court proceedings, she said she’s still living with the general. ‘We’re doing the best we can,’ she said. ‘It’s draining.’
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