There is a lot of misinformation about what it is which just sort of indicates it is nonsense. Homeopathy is defined as "like curing like." It's the idea that a substance that causes a symptom of some other general illness can be used to treat the illness. They dilute the substance, because they would probably kill people or at the very least make them so uncomfortable that they would not return. The notions behind the dilutions are very silly, but in a way a good thing because it makes the treatment useless rather than damaging.
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There is a lot of misinformation about what it is which just sort of indicates it is nonsense. Homeopathy is defined as "like curing like." It's the idea that a substance that causes a symptom of some other general illness can be used to treat the illness. They dilute the substance, because they would probably kill people or at the very least make them so uncomfortable that they would not return. The notions behind the dilutions are very silly, but in a way a good thing because it makes the treatment useless rather than damaging.
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
There is some validity to that. How do you think immunoresponse works?
That is just wrong. Most treatments have some negative effects or potential for it. If you go in for acupuncture that does nothing 9999/10000 times and punctures your lung 1/10000 times that is not a good thing.
There are also the wasted resources and opportunity costs.
No, there is not. It is overly simplistic nonsense. Further, if there is some value in the substance then it will work better in realistic dosages.
Airstrip One
Completely Effed
Does Subway put lactylate dough softeners in its breads?
I understand your point coming from someone who has never had or I presume never had a life threatening disease.
There are conventional medical treatments that can kill you, chemotherapy killed my friend, so that is an argument that can be used on both sides.
Billy the Great Khan
Uwaa OmO
I said delicious, not healthy.LOL I wouldn't go over board there. The chemical preservatives used in lunch meats are well known for creating nitrosamines, a known cancer causing compound and the deleterious health affects of excess gluten in your diet are well documented....but within moderation you can enjoy your Subway sandwhich knowing that it is safe, nutritious and delicioius.
Billy the Great Khan
Uwaa OmO
But it's still sold in your nanny state of a nation.
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
String...I have forgotten more on this topic than you will know. I studied holistic health for many years including a graduate professional level and have learned from professionals in the field who know far more on this topic than you do.
You apparently didn't read my posts either. I agree that the theory of ifinitisinimalism is bogus. However the theory of minimum dosage to achieve a cure, a more sound definition of homeopathy, is valid. Please explain to me how that is not?
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
I tend to agree. Particularly in serious illnesses any modality that can improve a patients outlook and sense of well being is helpful, as long as, it doesn't interfere with primary treatment.
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
Jesus Christ String. Most surgical methods have mortality/morbidity rates that are worse than those rates.
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
But the definition of Homeopathy I provided you meets that standard. There's is just a more conservative view. To use the least amount that works.
I have tried homeopathic remidies in the past that have worked. I used one for a case of bacterial conjunctivitis. It cleared it up in a couple of days. I recieved improvement within hours. Nor was it some ultradiluted solution.
Look I'm not trying to make a case for Homeopathy having some grand unifying scientific theory towards medical treatment. I am saying, as with acupuncture, in the proper context and circumstances it can have some validity.
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
Beats the hell out of me if they do. LOL
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
Absolutely. All health care modalities have a risk factor involved. Some are substantial. Decisions on a particular course of treatment are often based on a risk/benefit analysis.
As I said before, in any serious illness any palliative or alternative modality that does no more than improves patient outlook, or sense of well being or provides symptomatic relief to the illness or side affects of treatment have validity as long as they do not interefere with the course of primary treatment.
On this String is not well informed as there is absolutely no medical treatment, alopathic, holistic, althernative, eastern philosophy or otherwise that is not 100% contraindicated.
Airstrip One
Completely Effed
I bring this up because someone started a scare story about how if your bread has the ingredient "dough softener" or one of the lactylate groupings (CSL, SSL, or LEFA), then you are somehow consuming human hair. Not sure if there's much validity or cause for alarm there, though...
But they have value.
That's like studying scientology. It's not actual knowledge. All the theories behind homeopathy are nonsense. The striking, the law of similars, the idea that illnesses are due to some itch, it is all woo.
No, minimum dosage is not an accurate description. Their medicines are only permitted because the dilutions make them benign.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeopathy
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
Actually Homeopathy has no "theories" supporting it. It only has some unsubstantiated hypothesis.
I mean you're getting the wrong idea of where I am coming from. A clinical modality can have some clinical validity even if it has no scientific validity. I agree with you that the overwheliming majority of homeopathy has very little hard science backing it, if any. The concept of minimum dosage though does have some scientific validity from a dose reponse curve standpoint... not the law of infiniteslism stand point.
Having said that, how homeopaty is applied, in a clinical setting, is in my opinion (and that of most clinicians) a placebo but this is what I'm failing to communicate to you, in a clinical setting there are valid and practical circumstances in which to apply the placebo affect. In all though there is no disagreement between us that homeopathy is psuedoscience.
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Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
Not always.
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
I said "nutritious" not "healthy"