Legislating morality

Right said:
Again, it's up to the voters in the states, or their elected representatives, to decide what is worth licensing, and what is not.

Do you think that it is OK for a judge to issue an edict forcing a state what to license?
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No, but once the state engages in the act of licencing, I think its OK for a judge to rule on if the standards are legitimate and follow the precept of due process and equal protection.
 
Right said:
12 out of 50 states have used the democratic or republican process to decide that it is in their interest to license the activity. The remainder have not.
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That was not what you asked. Someone pointed out that 17 states have gay marriage. You replied by asking "How many of these states decided by the will of the people or their elected representatives?".

So, out of the 17 states that have gay marriage, 12 of them were decided by the people or the elected officials.

Don't worry, more states are coming.
 
If nothing else even the young and religious for the most part believe that this should happen. The culture war is ugly in how things are turning against the right on this one.
 
;1424424 said:
"How many of these states decided by the will of the people or their elected representatives?".
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And the correct answer is 12 out of 50.

There are 50 states, not 17, and not 57.

Perhaps the Obama was reffing to Heinz 57? LOL!
 
Right said:
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/slippery-slope.html
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Not a slippery slope argument, but a prediction based on observations of recent events.

34% of the states allow gay marriage.
24% of the states allow gay marriage and made that change by the will of the people or by the state's elected officials.

To suggest that this trend will continue is not a slipper slope argument.

Also, poll after poll shows support for gay marriage increasing year after year after year.
 
WinterBorn said:
Not a slippery slope argument, but a prediction based on observations of recent events.

34% of the states allow gay marriage.
24% of the states allow gay marriage and made that change by the will of the people or by the state's elected officials.

To suggest that this trend will continue is not a slipper slope argument.

Also, poll after poll shows support for gay marriage increasing year after year after year.
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And there is no downturn in the increase in popularity for gay marriage....not even a momentary flutter in the polls as far as I can tell.
 
Right said:
And the correct answer is 12 out of 50.

There are 50 states, not 17, and not 57.

Perhaps the Obama was reffing to Heinz 57? LOL!
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Did you ask him how many states decided by the will of the people? Or did you reply to his post about 17 states by saying "How many of these states decided by the will of the people or their elected representatives?"?

Regardless of which it is, just a few years ago gay marriage was not allowed anywhere. Now 34% of the states allow it. Your side is losing ground rapidly.
 
facts reason and logic would suggest that, given the steady rise in public acceptance of gay marriage over time, the number 17 will only continue to grow, not shrink.
 
;1424493 said:
LMAO!! Now THAT was funny.

The fact that even brought up a typo shows you have nothing left.
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The fact that I brought up a type shows that I also have a sense of humor. If find yours, however, lacking, and an indication that that's all YOU have.
 
Right said:
You mean 12. But again, the "slipper" slope argument. LOL!
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no. I meant 17. And you can claim that my observation that the number has gone from 1 to 17 in a decade is a logical fallacy.... I could give a shit. And the gays who will get to be married in states 18, 19, 20, etc. won't give a shit either. lol
 
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