Legislating morality

Jarod said:
IF they can demonstrate why its not in their best interests and that the government has a legitimate roll in protecting that interest, otherwise some States would legislate all kinds of things because its in the majority's "best interest". Slavery is an example that comes to mind.
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No state licenses slavery. What a terrible analogy.
 
Jarod said:
No, you see, gay people are just as eligible for a plumbers licence as straight people. State and local governments have a legit interest in ensuring that a person who works as a plumber has a certain standard of knowledge, and that is I assume, the requirement to get a licence to be a plumber. If one of the requirements was that you be a Man, for example, I would say that is akin to requiring one of each sex for a marriage licence.

If you could come up with a reason that allowing same sex couples to get married would materially harm you or others in general, you would have a better argument.
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Your argument makes no sense.
 
WinterBorn said:
The problem with that analogy is that an unlicensed plumber can do harm. A gay couple marrying harms no one.
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You can't justify that at all. A couple, gay or straight, can do great harm to others if they don't abide by societal coded and laws. What a retarded argument you have presented.
 
Right said:
You can't justify that at all. A couple, gay or straight, can do great harm to others if they don't abide by societal coded and laws. What a retarded argument you have presented.
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Any person can cause great harm. I didn't say "A gay couple harms no one". I stated that the gay couple getting married harms no one. And that is accurate.

Perhaps the retardation you refer to is your own reading skills.
 
That's not the point. It's a licensing issue. You don't get a license for maybe "doing no harm". You get one for providing a benefit to other the citizens of the state.
 
Right said:
That was never the point why most folks are against it. Years have gone by yet you continue to pretend otherwise.
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Your religious beliefs are your private affair, the states, the federal government can not consider your religious beliefs when making laws.
 
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Right said:
That's not the point. It's a licensing issue. You don't get a license for maybe "doing no harm". You get one for providing a benefit to other the citizens of the state.
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It wasn't a licensing point when you said "A couple, gay or straight, can do great harm to others if they don't abide by societal coded and laws".

And the marriage of a gay couple provides the same benefits that a straight marriage does. The only except is unassisted procreation. Every other benefit is there.
 
WinterBorn said:
It wasn't a licensing point when you said "A couple, gay or straight, can do great harm to others if they don't abide by societal coded and laws".

And the marriage of a gay couple provides the same benefits that a straight marriage does. The only except is unassisted procreation. Every other benefit is there.
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In other words, gay marriage provides little, if any, benefit to the state. So why would they want to license such an activity?
 
Right said:
In other words, gay marriage provides little, if any, benefit to the state. So why would they want to license such an activity?
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Do you think procreation the only benefit the state gets from married couples? Increasing population is not always a benefit to the state. And there are many other benefits from having married couples.
 
Maybe there are, but it's up to the voters in the states, or their elected representatives, to decide what is worth licensing, and what is not. Liberals however, are overjoyed when a judge issues an edict forcing a state what to license.
 
seventeen states now have gay marriage. A decade ago the number was one. The tide is turning and turning rather rapidly. Homophobes and bigots are on the losing side of history on this issue. It's only a matter of WHEN gay marriage will be the law of the entire land... not if.
 
maineman said:
seventeen states now have gay marriage. A decade ago the number was one. The tide is turning and turning rather rapidly. Homophobes and bigots are on the losing side of history on this issue. It's only a matter of WHEN gay marriage will be the law of the entire land... not if.
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How many of these states decided by the will of the people or their elected representatives?
 
Right said:
Maybe there are, but it's up to the voters in the states, or their elected representatives, to decide what is worth licensing, and what is not. Liberals however, are overjoyed when a judge issues an edict forcing a state what to license.
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That is because we are not a democracy. The masses cannot vote away civil rights. (and that was an example, I did not claim marriage is a civil right)
 
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