More evidence of Virginia's blueness...

maineman said:
This AG is performing his duties as he recognizes them to be. If the people of the Commonwealth of Virginia disagree with him, they can implore the legislature to impeach him immediately.
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It's not his job to do what HE thinks it should be; it is his job to do what the State's Constitution says it should be. AG's cannot selectively enforce whatever laws they feel like any more than Obama can legally enforce just the parts of the ACA he feels like.

I don't expect you to get that; you're too painfully stupid to.
 
Truth Detector said:
It's not his job to do what HE thinks it should be; it is his job to do what the State's Constitution says it should be. AG's cannot selectively enforce whatever laws they feel like any more than Obama can legally enforce just the parts of the ACA he feels like.

I don't expect you to get that; you're too painfully stupid to.
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actually....if he thinks he is upholding the constitution, he can do so and await the verdict of the people of Virginia as to whether or not they feel he was acting correctly or not.
 
maineman said:
actually....if he thinks he is upholding the constitution, he can do so and await the verdict of the people of Virginia as to whether or not they feel he was acting correctly or not.
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No he cannot decide what laws to enforce; he can advise. But legislation is written by the legislators, AGs defend it. The Constitutionality of any law can only be determined by the Supreme Court.

The attorney general has a constitutional and statutory obligation to enforce and defend the duly adopted laws and Constitution of Virginia," William J. Howell said in a statement. "This is not an obligation that can be taken lightly."

The Office of the Attorney General is the Commonwealth's law firm. Its clients are the Virginia state government and the state agencies, boards and commissions that compose that government.

The Office of the Attorney General includes a chief deputy attorney general, five deputy attorneys general and other employees that include assistant attorneys general, additional lawyers appointed as counsel to particular agencies, legal assistants, legal secretaries and other professional support staff. The Office of the Attorney General is structured like a private law firm, with sections devoted to legal specialties.

One thing the Attorney General and the other attorneys on our staff cannot do is give legal advice to private citizens. If you have a private dispute, this Office cannot intervene. To find more information regarding finding an attorney for a private legal matter, please click here.

The duties and powers include:

•Provide legal advice and representation to the Governor and executive agencies, state boards and commissions, and institutions of higher education. The advice commonly includes help with personnel issues, contracts, purchasing, regulatory and real estate matters and the review of proposed legislation. The Office also represents those agencies in court.

•Provide written legal advice in the form of official opinions to members of the General Assembly and government officials.

•Defend criminal convictions on appeal, and defend the state when prisoners sue concerning their incarceration.

•Defend the constitutionality of state laws when they are challenged in court.

•Serve as the clearinghouse for the receipt, evaluation, investigation and referral of consumer complaints.

•Enforce antitrust laws that protect businesses and consumers from behavior that defeats healthy competition.

•Enforce state consumer protections laws.

•Represent consumers in utility matters before the State Corporation Commission.

•Collect debts owed to state agencies, hospitals and universities.

•Conduct or assist criminal investigations and prosecutions in certain limited cases (for example Medicaid fraud, money laundering, theft of state property, environmental crimes, and computer crimes).

•Represent the Department of Social Services in its efforts to collect child support on behalf of children and families.

•Supervise the appointment and payment of private attorneys hired by other state agencies for various matters.

•Assist victims of crime who are following criminal cases at the appellate level.

•Provide information to the public on Identity Theft prevention and remediation.

•Administer grants to help reduce crimes involving gangs, drugs and sex predators.

•Administer the Sexually Violent Predator Civil Commitment Program to protect children from the most dangerous predators.

http://www.oag.state.va.us/About t...ibilities.html
 
and oddly enough, you say he can't...but it appears that he can and IS doing exactly that. Again... do you live in Virginia? Let's let the people of Virginia cast judgment on their AG.... and we can just sit on the sidelines and await their verdict.
 
maineman said:
actually....if he thinks he is upholding the constitution, he can do so and await the verdict of the people of Virginia as to whether or not they feel he was acting correctly or not.
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Haahahaha....is that like "if he thinks hes telling the truth he can't be lying" ?????LMAO
 
NOVA said:
Haahahaha....is that like "if he thinks hes telling the truth he can't be lying" ?????LMAO
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except in the instance about which we both know you are referring, the man in question KNEW he was not telling the truth. He KNEW that intelligence agencies within his own executive department had PLENTY of doubts. He CERTAINLY knew that there WAS doubt, so to say that there was no doubt was clearly a lie.
 
maineman said:
and oddly enough, you say he can't...but it appears that he can and IS doing exactly that. Again... do you live in Virginia? Let's let the people of Virginia cast judgment on their AG.... and we can just sit on the sidelines and await their verdict.
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Its not odd at all....this is the way idiots think....Democrat idiots.....you don't have to enforce laws you disagree with.....then the 'voters' decide ?

If the law says you must marry two men and you don't agree with the law, you don't have to marry them ?...then everything is ok until election time ?
If you don't want to bake a cake for a homo wedding you don't have to, you just wait for the "voters' to decide ?

Whats incredible is that you can walk and chew gum at the same time....lmao
 
NOVA said:
Its not odd at all....this is the way idiots think....Democrat idiots.....you don't have to enforce laws you disagree with.....then the 'voters' decide ?

If the law says you must marry two men and you don't agree with the law, you don't have to marry them ?...then everything is ok until election time ?
If you don't want to bake a cake for a homo wedding you don't have to, you just wait for the "voters' to decide ?
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I was unaware that the people voted for bakers in Virginia.
 
maineman said:
except in the instance about which we both know you are referring, the man in question KNEW he was not telling the truth. He KNEW that intelligence agencies within his own executive department had PLENTY of doubts. He CERTAINLY knew that there WAS doubt, so to say that there was no doubt was clearly a lie.
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Its what he believed, not what you think he knew....knowing someone else don't agree with you is irrelevant....you know in your own mind and heart what is your truth....

Do you absolutely believe in a God.....Do you absolutely know there is a God.....you have to answer yes to both or no to both....you can't have it two ways...

If you don't know there is a God then you can't possibly absolutely believe there is....

but the rest of my post is more on topic....the part you skipped over.
 
NOVA said:
Its what he believed, not what you think he knew....knowing someone else don't agree with you is irrelevant....you know in your own mind and heart what is your truth....

Do you absolutely believe in a God.....Do you absolutely know there is a God.....you have to answer yes to both or no to both....you can't have it two ways...

If you don't know there is a God then you can't possibly absolutely believe there is....
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Are you suggesting that Bush was unaware of the caveats and qualifiers contained in NIE's concerning Iraq's WMD stockpiles? Are you suggesting that our president did not read the National Intelligence Estimates prepared for him?
 
A president can and does speak as the president for the country...but he doesn't and cannot speak for every single person in the country....whether everyone in the nation
agrees with him is totally irrelevant....
 
maineman said:
Are you suggesting that Bush was unaware of the caveats and qualifiers contained in NIE's concerning Iraq's WMD stockpiles? Are you suggesting that our president did not read the National Intelligence Estimates prepared for him?
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Ignoring my example are you ?
 
maineman said:
I was unaware that the people voted for bakers in Virginia.
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Did I mention Virginia....I think not....

but in any case many of the voters are the bakers customers, are they not ?

How very lame you are when you're faced with simple questions.
 
NOVA said:
Ignoring my example are you ?
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they are irrelevant. He didn't express his opinion, he made a statement of fact. "THERE IS NO DOUBT".... when he was well aware of doubt.... unless you believe that the President of the United States was SO negligent in the performance of his duties that he failed to read NIE's prepared for him.
 
NOVA said:
Did I mention Virginia....I think not....

but in any case many of the voters are the bakers customers, are they not ?

How very lame you are when you're faced with simple questions.
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this thread is ABOUT Virginia, moron.

The AG will face the voters and if they disagree with his interpretation of his oath of office, they'll not return him to the job. The baker? He won't ever face the voters to determine whether or not he can continue baking.
 
you steered it away from Virginia in post 165.... not me. But you don't have an answer about the NIE's because you know Bush lied. We both know that, and we both know that you don't have the cojones to admit it.
 
and you don't have to work at being more dense than me.... you have ALWAYS been one of the denser motherfuckers I have ever come in contact with on the internet.... maybe only toby and MichaelK exceed your density, but not by much.
 
maineman said:
this thread is ABOUT Virginia, moron.

The AG will face the voters and if they disagree with his interpretation of his oath of office, they'll not return him to the job. The baker? He won't ever face the voters to determine whether or not he can continue baking.
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No, the baker will face the lawyers for ignoring the law, just as the AG should face the lawyers for ignoring the law....
the laws as passed and agreed to by the legislature of the land whose job it is pass the laws.....

In your world the AG might or might not lose his job while the baker may go to jail, is shut down, and faces criminal charges for the same offense.....
 
NOVA said:
No, the baker will face the lawyers for ignoring the law, just as the AG should face the lawyers for ignoring the law....
the laws as passed and agreed to by the legislature of the land whose job it is pass the laws.....
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Is the mid-Atlantic state in which you live, Virginia, perhaps?

If not... let's both just sit on the sidelines and eat our popcorn and watch and see how this unfolds. OK?
 
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