Ronald Reagans most important adviser...

Truth Detector said:
Dear repugnant dunce; the threads author claimed that the astrologer was Ronald's most important advisor. That's a lie; do try to keep up and learn to comprehend what you read before you erupt in your typical ignoramus fashion.

Now please do me the favor of ignoring me like you claimed you were and stop being such a repugnant lying asshat.
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Dear raving lunatic, I did the research. It wouldn't hurt you to do the same before opening your big fat pie hole.

Maybe I'll ignore you again, maybe not. But if it happens it'll be my choice, not yours.

"Quigley was not the first astrologer the Reagans had consulted. Ronald and Nancy Reagan had a long history of involvement with astrologers and psychics. During the 1950's and 1960's, Ron and Nancy enlisted the services of Hollywood astrologer Carroll Righter, and later Jeane Dixon. In his 1965 autobiography, Where's the Rest of Me?, Reagan said that he and Righter were "good friends" and that "every morning Nancy and I turn to see what he has to say about people of our respective birth signs." (It was on Righter's advice that Reagan arranged his swearing-in as governor at the odd time of 9 minutes past midnight.)"

http://thereaganyears.tripod.com/divineguidance.htm
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Jarod said:
Obama has led us out of a much worse recession than Reagan led us out of, so there is that. Obama was able to reform the Healthcare system that many many presidents tried to reform, the jury is still out on how that will pan out, but at least we moved off the failed system we had. Obama was successfully able to get us out of Iraq and looks to be on track to successfully get us out of Afghanistan.

Reagan was successful in many ways. But to deny that Obama was also successful in many of the same ways, and in some ways to a greater degree is silly. In fact it would be a very interesting book to read that would track the similarities of the two Administrations.
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Are you really going to compare the economy of the '80's to the economy we have today?
 
Jarod said:
Obama has led us out of a much worse recession than Reagan led us out of, so there is that.
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Actually that is debatable. Obama did not have to deal with the stagflation Reagan inherited from Carter. Both situations were bad, for very different reasons.

Obama was able to reform the Healthcare system that many many presidents tried to reform, the jury is still out on how that will pan out, but at least we moved off the failed system we had.
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He changed nothing about the failed system except for HOW we pay. The problems we face within the health care system were the non stop cost increases. Those problems still exist and have very likely been increased due to the fiasco that is Obama care.

Obama was successfully able to get us out of Iraq and looks to be on track to successfully get us out of Afghanistan.
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Obama did no such thing. The Iraq withdrawal plan was established by Bush and the Iraqi government. It went exactly as they planned it.

Obama has INCREASED our presence in Afghanistan.

Reagan was successful in many ways. But to deny that Obama was also successful in many of the same ways, and in some ways to a greater degree is silly. In fact it would be a very interesting book to read that would track the similarities of the two Administrations.
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The statement made was that Obama was better than Reagan. I asked how. You pretending anyone said the above is moronic.

For the record you have not shown any evidence that Obama is better.
 
cawacko said:
Are you really going to compare the economy of the '80's to the economy we have today?
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The two were very different, however the economy of the early 80's was not good. By some measures our current economy is better than that of the early 80's. Look at mortgage rates for example.
 
93% of economists say the stim worked.

who are you fucks ?

some internets tube crawlers who have never predicted correctly the outcome of policy.


hmmmmm

experts or crazy clowns on the internets?

its a tuff one
 
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evince said:
97% of economists say the stim worked.

who are you fucks ?

some internets tube crawlers who have never predicted correctly the outcome of policy.


hmmmmm

experts or crazy clowns on the internets?

its a tuff one
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yes, we know you are a crazy clown... no need to further demonstrate that point.
 
Superfreak said:
Actually that is debatable. Obama did not have to deal with the stagflation Reagan inherited from Carter. Both situations were bad, for very different reasons.



He changed nothing about the failed system except for HOW we pay. The problems we face within the health care system were the non stop cost increases. Those problems still exist and have very likely been increased due to the fiasco that is Obama care.



Obama did no such thing. The Iraq withdrawal plan was established by Bush and the Iraqi government. It went exactly as they planned it.

Obama has INCREASED our presence in Afghanistan.



The statement made was that Obama was better than Reagan. I asked how. You pretending anyone said the above is moronic.

For the record you have not shown any evidence that Obama is better.
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TO argue, based on what we know today, that Obama is better would be silly. Its impossible without the lens of a historical perspective. Obama has moved our nation to a place that my personal politics would say is better in many ways. We are unquestionably in a better place with regard to how we treat homosexuals for example, and in a better place with regards to the War on Drugs, but other issues are yet to be answered.

Reagan was very effective in using our military in a way that accomplished small goals without creating lasting engagements. Obama has been successful with that in Libya and accomplished a lot in Syria with the simple threat of using the military.

To say an entire presidency is better or worse than one of 30 years ago is silly.
 
evince said:
97% of economists say the stim worked.

who are you fucks ?

some internets tube crawlers who have never predicted correctly the outcome of policy.


hmmmmm

experts or crazy clowns on the internets?

its a tuff one
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Where did you get that number from?
 
http://www.classwarfareexists.com/93-of-economists-agree-obama-stimulus-helped-economy/


My bad its 93%



93% of the economists surveyed by the University of Chicago Booth School of Business believed that the Obama stimulus i.e. American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 helped reduce unemployment. But when factoring in the potential costs of either raising taxes to address the deficit spending – only 14% of the economists surveyed felt the economy would be better off without having passed the Obama stimulus package. - See more at: http://www.classwarfareexists.com/9...stimulus-helped-economy/#sthash.WSmVyO0k.dpuf
 
You guys didn't even remember this study huh?

that is because you REFUSE completely undeniavble facts all fucking day long to retain your historically failed ideas
 
Jarod said:
TO argue, based on what we know today, that Obama is better would be silly.
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Yet he stated that Obama was better than Reagan, which is why I asked him to explain his justification for such a comment.

Its impossible without the lens of a historical perspective. Obama has moved our nation to a place that my personal politics would say is better in many ways. We are unquestionably in a better place with regard to how we treat homosexuals for example, and in a better place with regards to the War on Drugs, but other issues are yet to be answered.
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Saying the country is better now in social aspects is irrelevant unless you can show how it is Obama caused the change. We are NOT in a better place in the war on drugs, at least not due to anything the Obama admin has done. They ramped up drug busts and the war on drugs.

Reagan was very effective in using our military in a way that accomplished small goals without creating lasting engagements.
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True.

Obama has been successful with that in Libya and accomplished a lot in Syria with the simple threat of using the military.
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what has he accomplished in Syria? What did he do in Libya that was successful?

To say an entire presidency is better or worse than one of 30 years ago is silly.
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Lol... yet you didn't say so to the person who made the original claim. Perhaps you should let him know.
 
You are the shills of the wealthy who don't care about others in this world.


You either do it because your too fucking stupid to know better or

You do it knowing your fucking lying all day long.

either way your fucking stupid for doing it
 
evince said:
You guys didn't even remember this study huh?

that is because you REFUSE completely undeniavble facts all fucking day long to retain your historically failed ideas
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I can't claim to spend a lot of time at classwarfareexists.com so if that's where the study was posted then no I don't remember reading about it. I notice the site gives no link the study being reported anywhere else.
 
evince said:
You are the shills of the wealthy who don't care about others in this world.


You either do it because your too fucking stupid to know better or

You do it knowing your fucking lying all day long.

either way your fucking stupid for doing it
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Calling others shills of the wealthy while supporting QE. That's a good one.
 
christiefan915 said:
For one thing, his unconstitutional (read: treasonous) actions regarding Iran-Contra.
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and Obama's wire tapping expansion, data collection, use of the IRS as a political weapon, illegally delaying portions of Obama care for certain groups, illegally creating separate classes of shareholders in GM? unconstitutional appointments?
 
Superfreak said:
and Obama's wire tapping expansion, data collection, use of the IRS as a political weapon, illegally delaying portions of Obama care for certain groups, illegally creating separate classes of shareholders in GM? unconstitutional appointments?
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I'll give you wiretapping and data collection but you're going to have to explain how the rest was either illegal or unconstitutional.
 
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