A&E suspended Phil Robertson

Have I expressed any concern over the actions of A&E?

I don't think you have, but that is not an answer to my question. Were you happy or unhappy when Clear Channel "decided not to play" the Dixie Chicks on their stations?
 
Your belief is stifling and presents you as a close-minded bigot. I'm not saying that you are but to categorize all Democrats as being the same seems to fit the mold.
People have a right to express their opinions, and when they do so publicly, they should not be surprised when others offer a different opinion.
What stands out for me is the greatest gift you can give someone is love.

"Thank you for this helpful post"
 
I know many of you Cons want to confuse and avoid the question, but it was clear... not did you agree Clear Channel had the right, but did you support what they did?

Weather they had a right to do it or not is not my question.

I apologize... I misread that probably a dozen times...

Yes, I supported the position of Clear Channel. No, I do not think A&E is doing the right thing. The difference to me is that Robertson was being interviewed by GQ. They asked him a question on sin. He answered it based on his religious views. He was banned for that. I think that is wrong. The Ditzie Chicks on the other hand simply decided to bash the President when they were at a concert and they said something like they were ashamed he was from Texas. If I recall correctly they did so overseas. I think that was inappropriate.

So while the individuals had the right to say what they did, the networks had the right to react the way they did, the difference for us individually comes down to whether or not we agree or disagree with the comments and/or actions of the individuals/networks.
 
For like the 5th time, I am not asking if you felt Clear Channel had the right to ban the Dixie Chicks.

I am asking if you supported the fact that they did it. Two very different things.

For example. I agree A&E had a right to suspend this silly person, but I wish they had not and feel it was wrong for them to do it EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO SO... ugh!

For some reason I kept skipping over the 'not' in your original question. Totally my fault. Apologies. I just answered.

and yes... in this instance... I was the retard.
 
No, he did not say anything of the kind... the happy black people he spoke of were ones HE WORKED WITH. He said nothing about ALL black people, he said THE ONES HE WORKED WITH... SIDE BY SIDE. There were no slaves at that time you dolt.

A black person working alongside him was not able to congregate among the white aristocracy, which is to say they could not eat in white restaurants, drink from white water fountains, so go school with whites, sit among them in the same movie theater, they couldn't vote, and God forbid a black man should look upon a white woman. Now how would describe slavery.
 
No, but on the other hand why do some Christians, like fundamentalist, feel that everyone needs to go by their moral code?

Exactly! He states that America's going down the tubes and it's all because of (paraphrasing) no-moral liberals and that he's glad he has a platform to air his views on how to correct what he sees as the problem.
 
Your belief is stifling and presents you as a close-minded bigot. I'm not saying that you are but to categorize all Democrats as being the same seems to fit the mold.
People have a right to express their opinions, and when they do so publicly, they should not be surprised when others offer a different opinion.
What stands out for me is the greatest gift you can give someone is love.

LOL, he is a Democrat.
 
He is saying that 'white trash' was treated in a similar fashion to the blacks in his neighborhood at the time. He was calling HIMSELF white trash.

Look at the way 'white trash' is treated today Christie. How many of your fellow left wingers constantly belittle those of the south? Those they feel are 'beneath' them?

Mutt is a perfect example.

Do you really take Mott seriously? I look at his posts as comic relief 90% of the time. And haven't you contributed with your sheep-fucking posts about people from Ohio or Michigan?
 
I apologize... I misread that probably a dozen times...

Yes, I supported the position of Clear Channel. No, I do not think A&E is doing the right thing. The difference to me is that Robertson was being interviewed by GQ. They asked him a question on sin. He answered it based on his religious views. He was banned for that. I think that is wrong. The Ditzie Chicks on the other hand simply decided to bash the President when they were at a concert and they said something like they were ashamed he was from Texas. If I recall correctly they did so overseas. I think that was inappropriate.

So while the individuals had the right to say what they did, the networks had the right to react the way they did, the difference for us individually comes down to whether or not we agree or disagree with the comments and/or actions of the individuals/networks.

1) Thank you for your apology.
2) Thank you for answering.

This is an important thing I want you to understand. I do not like what the Duck Dynasty guy said, I disagree with him, I think what he said is harmful to people. I DISAGREE with the COMMENTS he made!

YET, because I believe in FREEDOM and the FREE EXPRESSION OF IDEAS, I do not agree with what A&E did. I do not think Comcast should have banned the DIXIE CHICKS for criticizing the president, and I don't think A&E should have banned this guy for calling homosexuality a sin.


One of my wishes is for AMERICANS to rise above what they believe about the issues and stand on some bigger principals about being accepting of the right to disagree!
 
I don't think you have, but that is not an answer to my question. Were you happy or unhappy when Clear Channel "decided not to play" the Dixie Chicks on their stations?

I think I simply stated that they were within their rights to cater to their audience. I believe I mentioned that the Dixie Chicks being country music singers should have paid a little attention to their audience as well. I certainly didn't promote the "banning" of Dixie Chicks that I remember.
 
I refuse to address the comments concerning blacks because it is an exercise in futility with so many folks. There would be the same tired, old comments and accusations of racism no matter what is said. I will say that in a lot of places in OK, and I assume other places in the US, there were good, decent relationships between and among black folks and whites. It wasn't all perfect but some of us grew up with one another, our parents hoeing the same fields, serving in the same military, going to the same churches (though I loved visiting all black congregations) and us kids playing catch and going fishing with one another. I only engage in the moral side if this situation because it is near and dear to me and gives me a chance to rant to someone besides my wife. I'm not changing anyone's mind and they ain't changing mine.

Did they invite those blacks they worked along to their homes for dinner?
 
Weather they had a right to do it or not is not my question.

OK Mr. Lawyer, I'll try again. But this is why I don't engage you often. You're lawyer speak gets tiresome. They are businesses and they can do whatever they wish with their employees, constituents or benefactors. You asked if I "support" them. If by that do you mean that I would do the same thing that they would do. Then then answer is different in each case. Yes, I'd have banned the Dixie Chicks and no I wouldn't have suspended Phil Robertson.

When I am asked if I support some action by a person or company to me it goes to the right of the person or company to do what they did. So I answered accordingly. I still say that you are trying to turn this thread into something other than what it is.
 
A black person working alongside him was not able to congregate among the white aristocracy, which is to say they could not eat in white restaurants, drink from white water fountains, so go school with whites, sit among them in the same movie theater, they couldn't vote, and God forbid a black man should look upon a white woman. Now how would describe slavery.

you realize different states had different Jim Crow laws? You also realize that 'white trash' also was not welcome among the aristocracy? Robertson would have been about 18 when the Civil Rights act was passed. So they did have the right to vote.

While things were far from good even in the 60's, to compare that time to slavery is simply absurd.
 
Get back to us when a Muslim has a reality show, and does an interview with GQ.

They did have a Muslim reality show, it was so normal, it was boring and was cancelled! No drama, no stupidity, Americans aren't interested.

They tune in to mock the DD dynasty.
 
He didn't equate them. He paraphrased a bible verse that listed some sins.

"It seems like, to me, a vagina — as a man — would be more desirable than a man's anus, that's just me," the reality star said.

"I'm just thinking: There's more there! She's got more to offer. I mean, come on, dudes! You know what I'm saying? But hey, sin: It's not logical, my man. It's just not logical."

"Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there, bestiality,"

Wonder what he means by she's got more to offer?
 
OK Mr. Lawyer, I'll try again. But this is why I don't engage you often. You're lawyer speak gets tiresome. They are businesses and they can do whatever they wish with their employees, constituents or benefactors. You asked if I "support" them. If by that do you mean that I would do the same thing that they would do. Then then answer is different in each case. Yes, I'd have banned the Dixie Chicks and no I wouldn't have suspended Phil Robertson.

When I am asked if I support some action by a person or company to me it goes to the right of the person or company to do what they did. So I answered accordingly. I still say that you are trying to turn this thread into something other than what it is.


yes, he is trying to turn this into some sort of gotcha thread. It is what he does when he doesn't have anything of value to add.
 
Your belief is stifling and presents you as a close-minded bigot. I'm not saying that you are but to categorize all Democrats as being the same seems to fit the mold.
People have a right to express their opinions, and when they do so publicly, they should not be surprised when others offer a different opinion.
What stands out for me is the greatest gift you can give someone is love.

I don't see LR as a bigot but then I've been reading his posts for almost five years. However, I'm bothered by his sweeping generalization about the left. A lot of RWs here are the same.
 
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