super thinks this is a flat tax plan

see how they are gentle reader.
they can NEVER admit they are wrong.


that makes them Poor leaders of anything
 
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For Desh... AGAIN...

Start with a standard deduction of $30k (adjusted for inflation annually) for each adult and then tax every dollar over that $30k at 20%. This is simple, easy to understand, fair and progressive. It protects the low-income individuals and couples from paying federal income taxes. It provides the middle-income families a lower effective tax rate than the wealthy. This plan would encompass ALL income, including earned income, capital gains and dividend income.

A person making $30k pays an effective rate of 0%.

A person making $50k pays an effective rate of 8%.

A person making $100k pays an effective rate of 14%.

A person making $200k pays en effective rate of 17%.

A person making $1mm pays an effective rate of 19.4%

Everyone has the same deduction and takes it. Which causes the effective tax rate to increase the more you make.

To reduce the national debt I would propose we add an additional temporary bracket to the flat tax. Every dollar over $1 million (again adjusted for inflation annually) would be taxed at 30% rather than 20%. The additional 10% would be mandated to pay down the debt.

There is no corporate tax. Eliminate it. We can tax the money earned via capital gains taxation and distributions to shareholders. The only other way the money can come out of the firm is via salary/benefits... which would also be taxed. Done.

We would eliminate 70k+ pages of loopholes/deductions/subsidies...


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so you back to claiming this is a flat tax?
 
evince said:
Ok I thought you were being honest for a second


I accept I gave you too much credit
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You are a completely dishonest piece of shit desh. Not once did I state my proposal wasn't a flat tax. YOU LIED.

You are the one that continues to be dishonest. I have shown you time and again that you are wrong. Yet you continue to pretend that is not the case. Because you are a sociopathic lying piece of shit.
 
Superfreak said:
Because that was my post from 2008... I cut and paste the entire thing.

I added the temporary tax as a suggestion to pay down the debt. It is not a part of the flat tax proposal. The flat tax is the part that will pay for ongoing expenses. The EXTRA TEMPORARY TAX was put there to pay down the debt. It is right there... in writing. I have stated it multiple times now... yet you continue to pretend to not understand it. Either that or you are a liar. You tell us... are you an idiot or a liar?
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was it my fault you posted it with a progressive component?
 
I thought you were admitting something there .

My apologies for thinking you were being honest for a second there
 
how in that convoluted brain of yours is it my fault you fucked up and posited things you didn't want me to consider part of your plan and I was supposed to JUST KNOW IT?????????


see gentle reader these people are evil and dishonest
 
evince said:
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you said it was flat.

having a higher rate after one million makes it NOT flat
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You are a fucking moron.

What does it say Desh?

Start with a standard deduction of $30k (adjusted for inflation annually) for each adult and then tax every dollar over that $30k at 20%. This is simple, easy to understand, fair and progressive. It protects the low-income individuals and couples from paying federal income taxes. It provides the middle-income families a lower effective tax rate than the wealthy. This plan would encompass ALL income, including earned income, capital gains and dividend income.

A person making $30k pays an effective rate of 0%.

A person making $50k pays an effective rate of 8%.

A person making $100k pays an effective rate of 14%.

A person making $200k pays en effective rate of 17%.

A person making $1mm pays an effective rate of 19.4%

Everyone has the same deduction and takes it. Which causes the effective tax rate to increase the more you make.
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THE ABOVE IS THE FLAT TAX WITH A STANDARD DEDUCTION.

To reduce the national debt I would propose we add an additional temporary bracket to the flat tax. Every dollar over $1 million (again adjusted for inflation annually) would be taxed at 30% rather than 20%. The additional 10% would be mandated to pay down the debt.
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As I made quite clear... the temporary tax is an ADDITION to the flat tax proposal.

Now Desh... are you going to continue to LIE?
 
Every dollar over $1 million (again adjusted for inflation annually) would be taxed at 30% rather than 20%
 
evince said:
Every dollar over $1 million (again adjusted for inflation annually) would be taxed at 30% rather than 20%
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Why did you pull out the MIDDLE part of that paragraph desh?

Here is the whole thing...

to reduce the national debt I would propose we add an additional temporary bracket to the flat tax. Every dollar over $1 million (again adjusted for inflation annually) would be taxed at 30% rather than 20%. The additional 10% would be mandated to pay down the debt.
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yet you deliberately left out the part that EXPLAINS what it is... I wonder why?
 
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