'Nuclear' Option triggered today in Senate

Big Money said:
I wonder how many Dem senators will have sunk with the millstone of Obamacare around their necks a year from now?
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worst case scenario...3 or 4. That's only it fails to gain the numbers needed to bring down costs. So how many GOP Senators go down if they do get the requisite numbers to sign up?
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Don't care. It will force the Senators do do their freaken jobs.

Far to often this nations business has been stopped by a handfull of senators that only represent a small fraction of the nations population. Most often to the detriment of most of the people and to the benefit on a hanful. It's about time something has been done about it.
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No doubt about it, a dictatorship is the most efficient of all governing types, why not go for that?
 
christiefan915 said:
It looks like Dems and repubs came together to oppose the option during the eight years when bush had only seven of his nominees filibustered. Look at the numbers today for Obama's five years in office. It's disgraceful that repubs won't let him fill those positions with people he has a perfect right to pick.
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You just posted the Republicans wanted the nuclear option in 2005.
 
Annie said:
No doubt about it, a dictatorship is the most efficient of all governing types, why not go for that?
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It is? That's news to me. I would suggest studying the history of the filibuster and how it has played a pivotal role in the collapse of most of the Republics in history. Beside the Senate was specifically designed to assure minority representation...with or without the filibuster.
 
Mr. Obama (he was a Senator then, not the President) made a very good speech as to why this was a bad idea when his party was in the minority. It will be interesting how quickly they try to change it back when they lose the majority in the Senate.
 
I hope the R's remember there arguments and reinstate the filibuster next time they are in the majority.
 
Jarod said:
I hope the R's remember there arguments and reinstate the filibuster next time they are in the majority.
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I made the same arguments against it when GWB was in office, the reality is at some point your party will be the minority and you will not like the result.
 
Jarod said:
I hope the R's remember there arguments and reinstate the filibuster next time they are in the majority.
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I made the same arguments against it when GWB was in office, the reality is at some point your party will be the minority and you will not like the result. 90% of his nominees are approved, this is a false "problem".
 
Jarod said:
I hope the R's remember there arguments and reinstate the filibuster next time they are in the majority.
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Damocles said:
Mr. Obama (he was a Senator then, not the President) made a very good speech as to why this was a bad idea when his party was in the minority. It will be interesting how quickly they try to change it back when they lose the majority in the Senate.
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i am absolutely positive they will piss and moan. So what? The filibuster on judicial nominees has been horribly abused to the detriment of this nation. This has now been stopped.
 
Annie said:
What do you consider more efficient?
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just about any kind of government. Dictatorships are inherently inefficient. Why? Cause they utterly lack representation and as Lincoln correctly observed no government can long exist without the consent of the governed
 
Mott the Hoople said:
i am absolutely positive they will piss and moan. So what? The filibuster on judicial nominees has been horribly abused to the detriment of this nation. This has now been stopped.
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Rubbish. There is no evidence that they are "abusing" it. 90% of his appointees get a vote and are approved.

What you dislike is the fact that President IDon'tCompromise has had to compromise and appoint people who aren't 100% ideologically bound to worship him.
 
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