Dems Turning Against Obama in Droves, Who's Next From this Forum

Another thread hijacked by Desh the crapflooder...


It's easy to see why she's so desperate to turn the discussion away from the Democrats who are waking up to the true nature of Obama.
 
SJJRSJJS said:
Nearly 40 House Democrats defied President Obama and helped the Republican majority pass a bill Friday that lets Americans keep, for one year, health plans that do not comply with Obamacare.

The defections from 39 members of Mr. Obama’s party highlighted the pressure on Congress to help people who lost coverage because of the president’s signature law, as balky websites keep a veil over alternative plans and pressure mounts on the Democrat-led Senate to forge a remedy.

“Let’s face it, millions of people right now have a cancelled policy,” Rep. Ron Barber, Arizona Democrat, said before voting for the Keep Your Health Plan Act.

The House passed the bill, 261 to 157, despite a veto threat from Mr. Obama and objections from Democrats who said the legislation was an insidious attempt to rot the Affordable Care Act from the inside out.

Four Republicans voted against the bill, perhaps because it could be viewed as an attempt to smooth over Mr. Obama’s controversial reforms.

Rep. Fred Upton, Michigan Republican, offered the bill at the height of furor over Mr. Obama’s oft-repeated promise that people who liked their health plans could keep them. Millions of Americans received cancellation notices because their plans did not meet the health care law’s coverage requirements, forcing the president to apologize as vulnerable Democrats scrambled to find a legislative solution.

Rampant glitches on the HealthCare.gov website — a federal portal that connects 36 states with plans under Obamcare — have intensified the problem, because people losing their policies cannot explore their options.

Mr. Barber said some Arizonans are “beside themselves.”

“Because by December 31 they don’t have health coverage, and they can’t get on the exchange to find out what’s available,” he told reporters.

Mr. Obama announced an administrative remedy on Thursday that permits insurers to offer a one-year renewal to people who hold noncompliant plans, and Senate Democrats are pushing legislation that would let existing enrollees hold onto their plans indefinitely.

The Republican-led bill goes further, allowing new enrollees to gain current health plans that do not comply with Obamacare.

Democratic opponents of the bill said the GOP offered a hocus-pocus fix that amounts to yet another attempt to repeal Mr. Obama’s signature law.

“It basically allows them to sell low-quality 2013 plans all through 2014, nothing else,” Rep. Frank Pallone, New Jersey Democrat, said.

Rep. Jim McGovern, Massachusetts Democrat, deemed it a “colossal waste of time.”

The White House said Mr. Obama would veto the House bill because it would likely increase the number of people with barebones plans, undermining Obamacare’s attempts to offer better protections through state-based insurance markets.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/nov/15/house-votes-let-americans-keep-health-plans-39-dem/
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The Fred Upton bill was passed in the House 261-157 and 39 Democrats voted for it. The bill would allow customers to keep their current insurance plans for one year. The insurance companies must tell their customers that their plans are deficient and could be cancelled in 10 years or 2 months depending on when how many people are covered in the plan.

Surprise! Hopefully those currently covered are rich and healthy because the plans will leave them bankrupt when they get sick.

Congratulations Republicans, you own this.
 
kiki said:
The Fred Upton bill was passed in the House 261-157 and 39 Democrats voted for it. The bill would allow customers to keep their current insurance plans for one year. The insurance companies must tell their customers that their plans are deficient and could be cancelled in 10 years or 2 months depending on when how many people are covered in the plan.
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Do you know the difference between this bill and Obamas' "fix"?
 
You want me said:
Yes.

So you also know Obama said he would veto the bill if it manages to pass the Senate, leaving nothing for Republicans to "own", as it were?
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Are you a proponent of the bill? Can you tell us why our President said he would veto the bill?
 
Instead of fantasising about the death of Kennedy, it might be useful to discover how this particular bit of sabotage was fixed.
 
There are many people who want to keep their cheaper plans. They have no need to have every doctors' office covered by insurance.

I've been to the doctor about 10 times in the past 35 years. No problem paying that out of pocket.

The insurance is for catastrophic costs... which is what insurance is supposed to be.
 
You want me said:
Only one vote, Admiral? Why so stingy? Is it because she's a woman?
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The Libs will recruit all the illegal Aliens, the Winos, and any eligible prisoners. They will ferry potential voters from Skidrow, paying them $20.00 bucks apiece. They will start calling, using ObamaDon'tCare hijacked phone number lists, from the Feds. Every mainstream media, except Fox News, will go out of their way to promote The Hillary and try to hurt our Republican Candidate. I hope that the Republicans do not beat up on each other during any debates, like they did to Romney especially that Rick Santorum, who I would never vote for.
 
evince said:
dude when will you learn not to mention these right wing lies when your fucking party has decades of court cases in which they were CAUGHT cheating people out of their votes and were punished by the courts for it?


there is NO FUCKING proof people vote more than once in this country in any way big enough to effect fucking local elections.


Lies in the face of court documents that reach back DECADES.



The republican party cheats in elections right from the fucking top of the party.


ITS PROVABLE
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Someone told me that you are a Feminazi Liberal, and if so, you need to have your foul mouth washed out with red wine.....LOL... "F" this and "F"ing that...OMYasss
 
evince said:
http://articles.latimes.com/1986-10-25/news/mn-7435_1_republican-national-committee


In an Aug. 13 memo the court made public Friday, Kris Wolfe, the Republican National Committee Midwest political director, wrote Lanny Griffith, the committee's Southern political director, and said of the Louisiana campaigning:

"I know this race is really important to you. I would guess that this program will eliminate at least 60-80,000 folks from the rolls. . . . If it's a close race . . . which I'm assuming it is, this could keep the black vote down considerably."
Unseals Document

She said in the memorandum that the program had been approved by Gregory Graves, deputy political director of the National Republican Senatorial Committee.The document, called Exhibit 13, was unsealed by U.S. District Judge Dickinson R. Debevoise when lawyers for the Democratic National Committee said it was needed to question Wolfe.
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He is talking about all the Black Gangsta Felons.....
 
I'll admit I only read your title because I want to expose a difference the Left has from the Right.

The Left is a bunch of people who think for themselves on what is right and wrong. Not what will win the election. You may shrug because generally what is "right" wins the election. Welcome to politics.
 
evince said:
this year you fucking asshole.


Your party cheats EVERY election.


how do you feel about three strikes laws?


shouldn't you fucking party be in prison for life now?
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Even for a FemiNazi, you are just too crude, that is unless you do not like men, then I understand. We get under your skin because you like other FemiNazis who "cuss like sailors", and we don't.
 
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