Legal marijuana reduces traffic fatalities

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http://www.forbes.com/sites/jacobsu...lization-will-produce-public-health-benefits/

In their 2012 book Marijuana Legalization: What Everyone Needs to Know, Jonathan Caulkins and three other drug policy scholars identify the impact of repealing pot prohibition on alcohol consumption as the most important thing no one knows. Are cannabis and alcohol complements, so that drinking can be expected to increase along with pot smoking? Or are they substitutes, implying that more pot smoking will mean less drinking? For analysts attempting to calculate the costs and benefits of legalizing marijuana, the question matters a lot, because alcohol is considerably more dangerous than marijuana by most measures. If the two products are complements, states that legalize marijuana can expect to see more consumption of both, exacerbating existing health and safety problems. But if the two products are substitutes, legalizing marijuana can alleviate those problems by reducing alcohol consumption.


Reviewing the evidence in the Journal of Policy Analysis and Management, Montana State University economist D. Mark Anderson and University of Colorado economist Daniel Rees find that “studies based on clearly defined natural experiments generally support the hypothesis that marijuana and alcohol are substitutes.” Increasing the drinking age seems to result in more marijuana consumption, for instance, and pot smoking drops off sharply at age 21, “suggesting that young adults treat alcohol and marijuana as substitutes.” Another study found that legalizing marijuana for medical use is associated with a drop in beer sales and a decrease in heavy drinking. These results, Anderson and Rees say, “suggest that, as marijuana becomes more available, young adults in Colorado and Washington will respond by drinking less, not more.”


That conclusion is consistent with earlier research in which Anderson and Rees found that enacting medical marijuana laws is associated with a 13 percent drop in traffic fatalities. That effect could be due to the fact that marijuana impairs driving ability much less dramatically than alcohol does, although the fact that alcohol is more likely to be consumed outside the home (resulting in more driving under its influence) may play a role as well.
 
A lot of correlation, yet not a lot of causation. Pot smoking most likely drops off after college because you have to get a job and these days EVERYONE drug tests.

Now, and I haven't read the article so this might be the case afterall, if drunk driving incedents were reduced in areas with legalized/decriminalized/medical marijuana went down this might have a better standing. But as it stands from my point of view now, it's just a coincidence. A good one (well, unless you think there are too many idiots in the world like I do), but still a coincidence. It does however show that marijuana use does not INCREASE traffic accidents, so that's good.
 
A lot of correlation, yet not a lot of causation. Pot smoking most likely drops off after college because you have to get a job and these days EVERYONE drug tests.

Now, and I haven't read the article so this might be the case afterall, if drunk driving incedents were reduced in areas with legalized/decriminalized/medical marijuana went down this might have a better standing. But as it stands from my point of view now, it's just a coincidence. A good one (well, unless you think there are too many idiots in the world like I do), but still a coincidence. It does however show that marijuana use does not INCREASE traffic accidents, so that's good.

Read the article. It's not a coincidence. Marijuana and alcohol are substitutes for one another. Legal marijuana will reduce alcohol consumption and the abuse of other more impairing drugs (e.g., pills) and therefore traffic fatalities and the other associated problems.
 
A lot of correlation, yet not a lot of causation. Pot smoking most likely drops off after college because you have to get a job and these days EVERYONE drug tests.

Now, and I haven't read the article so this might be the case afterall, if drunk driving incedents were reduced in areas with legalized/decriminalized/medical marijuana went down this might have a better standing. But as it stands from my point of view now, it's just a coincidence. A good one (well, unless you think there are too many idiots in the world like I do), but still a coincidence. It does however show that marijuana use does not INCREASE traffic accidents, so that's good.

That is something that really baffles me about the US. You are mostly all proud of your rights yet something like company drug testing, which is total infringement of individual rights, appears to be rife.
 
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its the worship of corporations by the right.

They cheat in elections so they end up with more power than the real population wants them to have.


In about ten years they wont be able to even win local elections that way due to the fact that they are racist assholes and refuse to stop doing the corporate bidding
 
That is something that really baffles me about the US, you are all mostly proud of your rights yet something like company drug testing, which is total infringement of individual rights, appears to be rife.

Well for one it's private enterprise, not public, which goes with freedom of association (something you brits are always forgetting).
 
That is something that really baffles me about the US, you are all mostly proud of your rights yet something like company drug testing, which is total infringement of individual rights, appears to be rife.

But you're not required to take the drug test by law.

It's a condition of your employment, not your freedom.
 
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jacobsu...lization-will-produce-public-health-benefits/

In their 2012 book Marijuana Legalization: What Everyone Needs to Know, Jonathan Caulkins and three other drug policy scholars identify the impact of repealing pot prohibition on alcohol consumption as the most important thing no one knows. Are cannabis and alcohol complements, so that drinking can be expected to increase along with pot smoking? Or are they substitutes, implying that more pot smoking will mean less drinking? For analysts attempting to calculate the costs and benefits of legalizing marijuana, the question matters a lot, because alcohol is considerably more dangerous than marijuana by most measures. If the two products are complements, states that legalize marijuana can expect to see more consumption of both, exacerbating existing health and safety problems. But if the two products are substitutes, legalizing marijuana can alleviate those problems by reducing alcohol consumption.


Reviewing the evidence in the Journal of Policy Analysis and Management, Montana State University economist D. Mark Anderson and University of Colorado economist Daniel Rees find that “studies based on clearly defined natural experiments generally support the hypothesis that marijuana and alcohol are substitutes.” Increasing the drinking age seems to result in more marijuana consumption, for instance, and pot smoking drops off sharply at age 21, “suggesting that young adults treat alcohol and marijuana as substitutes.” Another study found that legalizing marijuana for medical use is associated with a drop in beer sales and a decrease in heavy drinking. These results, Anderson and Rees say, “suggest that, as marijuana becomes more available, young adults in Colorado and Washington will respond by drinking less, not more.”


That conclusion is consistent with earlier research in which Anderson and Rees found that enacting medical marijuana laws is associated with a 13 percent drop in traffic fatalities. That effect could be due to the fact that marijuana impairs driving ability much less dramatically than alcohol does, although the fact that alcohol is more likely to be consumed outside the home (resulting in more driving under its influence) may play a role as well.

An idiot premise by idiots. I bolded the relevant part of this idiots treatise on marijuana and driving under the influence.
 
That is something that really baffles me about the US. You are mostly all proud of your rights yet something like company drug testing, which is total infringement of individual rights, appears to be rife.

How is it an infringement of your individual rights? You think you have a "right" to work? Do you know what "rights" are?

Dense, real dense.
 
An idiot premise by idiots. I bolded the relevant part of this idiots treatise on marijuana and driving under the influence.

Just because it may play a role does not mean the expected result will change. Tell us why you think it would?
 
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