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Can you substantiate your braggadocio, or not?

That is not what I asked. You said I didn't offer satisfactory answers. Other than refusing to give you names & numbers, what questions have I not answered to your satisfaction? We have spent 4 or 5 pages of my answering your questions. Which ones did I not answer to your satisfaction?
 
Which ones did I not answer to your satisfaction?

You haven't explained Motts' claim satisfactorily although you voluntarily picked up that gauntlet.

You haven't explained how a group of bullies "picking on" other boys isn't a gang.

You haven't offered a shred of evidence to prove that you didn't want to be a fraternity brother, or that your obvious animus wasn't fueled by jealousy and feelings of rejection.

And, finally, you have related a highly improbable tale and then refused to substantiate it although you told me to "ask them".
 
You haven't explained Motts' claim satisfactorily although you voluntarily picked up that gauntlet.

You haven't explained how a group of bullies "picking on" other boys isn't a gang.

You haven't offered a shred of evidence to prove that you didn't want to be a fraternity brother, or that your obvious animus wasn't fueled by jealousy and feelings of rejection.

And, finally, you have related a highly improbable tale and then refused to substantiate it although you told me to "ask them".

Exactly how would I prove what I did or didn't want 35 years ago?

I made a comment about what I and a few of my friends did as far as picking on groups of frat boys. Your slant doesn't work when the frat boys outnumbered us.
 
Yet you expect me to believe that you didn't want to be in a fraternity?

Do you actually think that everyone wants to be in a social organization that pushes everyone to be the same? That tells its people how to vote in campus elections? That condemns individuality?

You need to meet more people who enjoy their individuality.
 
Do you actually think that everyone wants to be in a social organization that pushes everyone to be the same? That tells its people how to vote in campus elections? That condemns individuality? You need to meet more people who enjoy their individuality.

LOL, every word you utter denigrating Greek organizations on campus reinforces my suspicion that you wanted to belong, but weren't accepted.

Can you prove that fraternities push "everyone to be the same", tell its people how to vote in campus elections", and "condemns individuality"?
 
LOL, every word you utter denigrating Greek organizations on campus reinforces my suspicion that you wanted to belong, but weren't accepted.

Can you prove that fraternities push "everyone to be the same", tell its people how to vote in campus elections", and "condemns individuality"?

You haven't had much dealings with greek organizations, have you?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Machine

"In 1989, independent Joey Viselli lost a very close election for president to a candidate who was reportedly the first ever Machine-backed female candidate for the office. Many people, including Tuscaloosa County election workers assisting with the election, believed there were definite irregularities. Viselli took a challenge of the results to the administration, which ruled against a new election, but did remove future student elections from student control. Later that spring, Viselli was elected President of the Residents Hall Council after a challenge by James Adams, a freshman member of a fraternity (Delta Tau Delta) that belonged to the Machine. Viselli's father Fran was a popular community figure who was the founder and owner of Bama-Bino's Pizza in the Tuscaloosa area. It has been widely believed that the Machine initiated a retaliatory boycott against Bama-Bino's following the election which, when combined with new competition, soon led to the closure of all Bama-Bino's."

Fran Viselli was a friend of mine thru the community theatre group we both worked with. I saw what that did to his life.
 
You haven't had much dealings with greek organizations, have you?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Machine "In 1989, independent Joey Viselli lost a very close election for president to a candidate who was reportedly the first ever Machine-backed female candidate for the office. Many people, including Tuscaloosa County election workers assisting with the election, believed there were definite irregularities. Viselli took a challenge of the results to the administration, which ruled against a new election, but did remove future student elections from student control. Later that spring, Viselli was elected President of the Residents Hall Council after a challenge by James Adams, a freshman member of a fraternity (Delta Tau Delta) that belonged to the Machine. Viselli's father Fran was a popular community figure who was the founder and owner of Bama-Bino's Pizza in the Tuscaloosa area. It has been widely believed that the Machine initiated a retaliatory boycott against Bama-Bino's following the election which, when combined with new competition, soon led to the closure of all Bama-Bino's." Fran Viselli was a friend of mine thru the community theatre group we both worked with. I saw what that did to his life.

One Wiki article?

Really?

You would attempt to tar all Greeks nationwide with that?
 
One Wiki article?

Really?

You would attempt to tar all Greeks nationwide with that?

The OP was about sororities at the University of Alabama. That article is about the greek organizations at the UA.

There are also 16 references at the bottom of the page. If you need more, you are welcome to go find it.
 
The OP was about sororities at the University of Alabama. That article is about the greek organizations at the UA. There are also 16 references at the bottom of the page. If you need more, you are welcome to go find it.

So you admit that not all Greek organizations deserve your scorn?

Do you actually think that everyone wants to be in a social organization that pushes everyone to be the same? That tells its people how to vote in campus elections? That condemns individuality?
 
So you admit that not all Greek organizations deserve your scorn?

I have had experiences with greek organizations on several college campuses. They have all pretty much been the same. Unless I see something to show me differently, my opinion stands.

And my opinion is common enough to be cliche.
 
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