Benghazi - The Nightmare Is Over!

ZappasGuitar said:
You're wasting your time.

Do you REALLY think after all this time, that clueless, spoonfed kool-aid guzzlers like NOVA are going to listen to ANYTHING other than their precious talking points about the Iraq war?
God could come down from on high right now and speak personally to NOVA, telling him how wrong he was to buy into Bush's bullshit claims of WMD's and how out of context the quotes from Democrats are, and it wouldn't matter because NOVA is driven by his hatred for anything the tiniest bit different from him.
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We're not even talking about Bush, we're talking about what Democrats said for 10 years....Saddam, WMD, Saddam, WMD, Saddam, WMD, Saddam, WMD, over and over.

ZappasGuitar said:
You didn't actually think if you spoke to a clown like NOVA with any civility that he'd suddenly stop spinning everything and begin believing the truth instead of the same tired bullshit partisan talking points he gets every day from the talking heads on AM radio every day, did you?
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Show me the spin zippy....there are no talking points, there are only the undeniable words of Demos whining about Saddam and WMD over a period of 10 years.
and I doubt if anyone on AM radio is still talking about this at all....so just wtf are babbling about.

Rana said:
I feel bad for him, he thanked my post that blew holes in his post. I guess truncated is a big word!
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Don't feel bad....that link CONFIRMS everything I've always said....in context and out of context, the words don't change and thanks again.
If you read something in your link that shows something different, just spit it out...or stfu !


I'm totally vindicated in my claims, thanks to Rana....and history.
 
Socrtease said:
Why does no one talk about the fact that in 2011 there was a bill to increase spending for security for diplomatic missions and the Republicans in the house KILLED it. Why does no one talk about the fact that from 2001-2008 there were 54 attacks on US diplomatic missions and 13 people died. In all that time there were THREE hearings. THREE! IF there was a cover up, and IF if can be linked to the President then there should be some hell to pay, but all I hear republicans saying is IF there was a cover up and IF the administration was behind it and IF this and IF that. So far there is no there there.
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Then you haven't been paying attention good brother. There is a plethora of information that calls much into question about the invasion of Libya.

The question is, do you have the freedom to digest it?
 
Socrtease said:
Why does no one talk about the fact that in 2011 there was a bill to increase spending for security for diplomatic missions and the Republicans in the house KILLED it. Why does no one talk about the fact that from 2001-2008 there were 54 attacks on US diplomatic missions and 13 people died. In all that time there were THREE hearings. THREE! IF there was a cover up, and IF if can be linked to the President then there should be some hell to pay, but all I hear republicans saying is IF there was a cover up and IF the administration was behind it and IF this and IF that. So far there is no there there.
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Charlene Lamb Deputy Assistant Secretary for International Programs in the Bureau of Diplomatic Security at the Department of State already testified under oath that
funding had nothing to do with the decision to not increase security at the Embassy or Consulate......
and that accusation was again shot down in the hearing held on Wednesday.....
so that dog ain't gonna hunt....got anything else you need cleared up ?
 
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blackascoal said:
The stupid are those who run from information and science.

I don't need Russell or anybody else to tell me that.

The stupid are those who didn't know that Libya would become the clusterfuck that it is when we attacked it.
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The reason why I used that quote is because you, and others who seem so certain, have no actual reason to believe that Libya would have been much different to Syria without NATO intervention. If we were having this discussion thirty odd years ago, I can imagine that you and Darla would be defending Pol Pot and the Kmer Rouge as the legitimate government of Cambodia.
 
maineman said:
and only ONE democrat, Al Gore, AFTER he left office, claimed certainty about Saddam's WMD's. ONLY ONE. And even though lots of people thought he MIGHT have had them, or even PROBABLY had them, that is a totally different statement than WE ABSOLUTELY KNOW FOR CERTAIN that he has them. If we know for certain, and we tell AMericans that Saddam is buddy-buddy with OBL, and has been even before 9/11... then, and only then, does there attach an entire level of uber-urgency to invading right this minute... to ignoring the wording of the use of force resolution which stated that armed invasion was to the be LAST resort and, instead, to make it the first and only resort... to kick the UN inspectors out even after you had scored a major diplomatic victory in getting Saddam to let them back in... invasion had to be done RIGHT THAT VERY MINUTE. Last resort? fuck that... ONLY resort. Feed a few days of shock and awe and then we're goin' in... to do, as Bush himself said was our primary mission: to disarm Saddam. Oooops. Looks like your little lie about absolute certainty bit ya in the ass, Dubya, and all the Bush lickers here and elsewhere with their tongues attached to your rectum... no WMD's. Now... Dubya could JOKE about that at the White House Correspondent's dinner, but 50K dead and wounded Americans and two trillion dollars down the shitter really isn't anything I think is worth laughing about.
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"No, I don't regret giving the president authority because at the time it was in the context of weapons of mass destruction, grave threats to the United States, and clearly, Saddam Hussein had been a real problem for the international community for more than a decade."
-- Hillary Rodham Clinton
 
blackascoal said:
The stupid are those who run from information and science.

I don't need Russell or anybody else to tell me that.

The stupid are those who didn't know that Libya would become the clusterfuck that it is when we attacked it.
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The stupid are those that see something like 9/11 as an inside job and fabricate conspiracy theories based on piss poor science.
 
blackascoal said:
"No, I don't regret giving the president authority because at the time it was in the context of weapons of mass destruction, grave threats to the United States, and clearly, Saddam Hussein had been a real problem for the international community for more than a decade."
-- Hillary Rodham Clinton
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O U C H !.....thats gotta hurt big time......I can see it now.....mm, thingy1, rana, zippy, and a whole shitload of Dems cringing and crapping in their depends.


Thanks BAC.....you do have a way with words, especially words right out of the mouths of progressive dems....
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
The reason why I used that quote is because you, and others who seem so certain, have no actual reason to believe that Libya would have been much different to Syria without NATO intervention. If we were having this discussion thirty odd years ago, I can imagine that you and Darla would be defending Pol Pot and the Kmer Rouge as the legitimate government of Cambodia.
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With all due respect good brother, your arguments are silly. You talk as if you possess no ability for critical thought whatsoever.

We invaded Libya for its resources and we used Al Queda to do it .. now we want to do the same thing to Syria using the same terrorists elements to do it.

You act as if invasion for resources is something the west doesn't do .. that there is no history of it. No history of CIA intervention.

30 seconds into this video, your entire argument is reduced to simple ideological-driven pablum/bullshit.


"Lost the confidence of his own people????"

One Third of Libya Turns Out to Support Qaddafi in World Largest March Ever
http://www.mathaba.net/news/?x=627456

Frankly, you don't really want to talk to me because you run from the truth .. and I keep slapping you with it.
 
blackascoal said:
"No, I don't regret giving the president authority because at the time it was in the context of weapons of mass destruction, grave threats to the United States, and clearly, Saddam Hussein had been a real problem for the international community for more than a decade."
-- Hillary Rodham Clinton
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excuse me... did you think that the quote showed Hillary stating with absolute certainty that Saddam had stockpiles of WMD's, because it clearly doesn't say that.

and she may not have regretted her vote when the quote was made, but she grew to regret it. In fact, on December 18, 2006, on NBC’s "Today" show, Sen. Clinton was asked about her 2002 vote and offered a slightly evolved answer. "Obviously, if we knew then what we know now, there wouldn’t have been a vote," she said in her usual refrain before adding, "and I certainly wouldn’t have voted that way."
 
NOVA said:
O U C H !.....thats gotta hurt big time......I can see it now.....mm, thingy1, rana, zippy, and a whole shitload of Dems cringing and crapping in their depends.


Thanks BAC.....you do have a way with words, especially words right out of the mouths of progressive dems....
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... and guess who democrats think the next messiah will be?

Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Truth is brother .. I like all those people, I like many republicans as well .. but the only side I care about is the side of humanity and the American people.
 
maineman said:
excuse me... did you think that the quote showed Hillary stating with absolute certainty that Saddam had stockpiles of WMD's, because it clearly doesn't say that.

and she may not have regretted her vote when the quote was made, but she grew to regret it. In fact, on December 18, 2006, on NBC’s "Today" show, Sen. Clinton was asked about her 2002 vote and offered a slightly evolved answer. "Obviously, if we knew then what we know now, there wouldn’t have been a vote," she said in her usual refrain before adding, "and I certainly wouldn’t have voted that way."
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I didn't imply anything. In fact, I didn't even say anything .. I let Clinton's words speak for themselves .. and, I'll do it again ..

"No, I don't regret giving the president authority because at the time it was in the context of weapons of mass destruction ... "

If you can't figure it out from there .. that's not my problem.

The question isn't her regrets .. the question is her JUDGEMENT.
 
maineman said:
excuse me... did you think that the quote showed Hillary stating with absolute certainty that Saddam had stockpiles of WMD's, because it clearly doesn't say that.

and she may not have regretted her vote when the quote was made, but she grew to regret it. In fact, on December 18, 2006, on NBC’s "Today" show, Sen. Clinton was asked about her 2002 vote and offered a slightly evolved answer. "Obviously, if we knew then what we know now, there wouldn’t have been a vote," she said in her usual refrain before adding, "and I certainly wouldn’t have voted that way."
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Lame strawman attempt, even for you...the quote speaks for itself, it don't need you to add words that aren't there or subtract words that are there.

And of course, we all admit and agree, if we knew then what we know now, there wouldn’t have been a vote, ....and probably Bush wouldn't have asked for a vote...and if in the off chance there was a vote it would not have passed.....either way, there wouldn't have been an Iraqi War.....but the fact remains
we didn't know then what we know now, just as HILLARY SO HONESTLY SAID !

If you've got nothing but lame spin, why waste our time ?
 
blackascoal said:
With all due respect good brother, your arguments are silly. You talk as if you possess no ability for critical thought whatsoever.

We invaded Libya for its resources and we used Al Queda to do it .. now we want to do the same thing to Syria using the same terrorists elements to do it.

You act as if invasion for resources is something the west doesn't do .. that there is no history of it. No history of CIA intervention.

30 seconds into this video, your entire argument is reduced to simple ideological-driven pablum/bullshit.


"Lost the confidence of his own people????"

One Third of Libya Turns Out to Support Qaddafi in World Largest March Ever
http://www.mathaba.net/news/?x=627456

Frankly, you don't really want to talk to me because you run from the truth .. and I keep slapping you with it.
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You have rolled out that same video many times now, if the support for Ghaddafi was as massive as you insist it was then where are they now? Why isn't Tripoli like Damascus or Aleppo?
 
blackascoal said:
I didn't imply anything. In fact, I didn't even say anything .. I let Clinton's words speak for themselves .. and, I'll do it again ..

"No, I don't regret giving the president authority because at the time it was in the context of weapons of mass destruction ... "

If you can't figure it out from there .. that's not my problem.

The question isn't her regrets .. the question is her JUDGEMENT.
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Give her a break BAC....her and her husband said that stuff for Billy's entire 8 years in office and many Dems were still whining about it after Bush was elected....
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
You have rolled out that same video many times now, if the support for Ghaddafi was as massive as you insist it was then where are they now? Why isn't Tripoli like Damascus or Aleppo?
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What the fuck are you talking about IF? Do your eyes work?

Yes, I keep slapping you and every other apologist with this and other undeniable truths .. and you all keep running away from it.

Like Iraq, we invaded Libya because we wanted to. That was the only imperative.

Where are they now?

Are you unaware that Libya is still at civil war? .. Of course you are.

Here's something else you don't know ..

Benghazi Attack. Libya’s Green Resistance Did It… And NATO Powers Are Covering Up
http://www.globalresearch.ca/libyas-green-resistance-did-it-and-nato-powers-are-covering-up/5305409
 
NOVA said:
Lame strawman attempt, even for you...the quote speaks for itself, it don't need you to add words that aren't there or subtract words that are there.

And of course, we all admit and agree, if we knew then what we know now, there wouldn’t have been a vote, ....and probably Bush wouldn't have asked for a vote...and if in the off chance there was a vote it would not have passed.....either way, there wouldn't have been an Iraqi War.....but the fact remains
we didn't know then what we know now, just as HILLARY SO HONESTLY SAID !

If you've got nothing but lame spin, why waste our time ?
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the fact remains, Bush lied to the American people when he told them there was absolute certainty that Saddam had stockpiles of WMD's. You and your kind refuse to accept ownership of that.
 
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