Healthcare reform by just removing two words, 'over 65'
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blackascoal
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Health Care Reform: Remove Over 65 from Medicare
Obamacare, aka The Affordable Care Act signed into law by President Barack Obama in 2010, is said to have some 1,147,271 words in the bill’s language. I have just two words that would dramatically change and fix our health care system for good. Remove “Over 65″ from current law regarding Medicare.
While the benefits of reforms in Obamacare far outweigh those of our previous health care system, I must admit it could have been even better. Since the law is now in jeopardy with a potential partisan Court ruling in July, perhaps we should start talking about this two-word plan.
With Americans paying directly from their paychecks like they already do with Medicare, we know that the costs of medical services would be spread out, and dramatically less for everyone. With one single coverage provider, essentially a government insurance company, taking profits out of the equation, additional cost savings would be seen by all. Paul Krugman said it best:
The great advantage of universal, government-provided health insurance is lower costs. Canada’s government-run insurance system has much less bureaucracy and much lower administrative costs than our largely private system. Medicare has much lower administrative costs than private insurance. The reason is that single-payer systems don’t devote large resources to screening out high-risk clients or charging them higher fees. The savings from a single-payer system would probably exceed $200 billion a year, far more than the cost of covering all of those now uninsured.
http://thenevadaview.com/3452/health-care-reform-remove-over-65-from-medicare/
The healthcare debate is not over .. and the solution has always been right in front of us.
Obamacare, aka The Affordable Care Act signed into law by President Barack Obama in 2010, is said to have some 1,147,271 words in the bill’s language. I have just two words that would dramatically change and fix our health care system for good. Remove “Over 65″ from current law regarding Medicare.
While the benefits of reforms in Obamacare far outweigh those of our previous health care system, I must admit it could have been even better. Since the law is now in jeopardy with a potential partisan Court ruling in July, perhaps we should start talking about this two-word plan.
With Americans paying directly from their paychecks like they already do with Medicare, we know that the costs of medical services would be spread out, and dramatically less for everyone. With one single coverage provider, essentially a government insurance company, taking profits out of the equation, additional cost savings would be seen by all. Paul Krugman said it best:
The great advantage of universal, government-provided health insurance is lower costs. Canada’s government-run insurance system has much less bureaucracy and much lower administrative costs than our largely private system. Medicare has much lower administrative costs than private insurance. The reason is that single-payer systems don’t devote large resources to screening out high-risk clients or charging them higher fees. The savings from a single-payer system would probably exceed $200 billion a year, far more than the cost of covering all of those now uninsured.
http://thenevadaview.com/3452/health-care-reform-remove-over-65-from-medicare/
The healthcare debate is not over .. and the solution has always been right in front of us.
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
When Obamacare was passed .. there were ONLY democrats left at the table.
Nothing prevented them from passing HR 676
Nothing prevented them from passing HR 676
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The Almighty
except common sense of course... nothing but common sense.
blackascoal
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Infrastructure already in place .. one of the most popular programs in America history .. nothing but democrats left at the table .. and they blew it.
More accurately, there were only Democrats invited TO the table in the first place.
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While I agree that would have been the smarter play vs. Obamacare, keep in mind that it is the private sector that subsidizes those 'lower costs' of Medicare. You put everyone on Medicare type insurance and you will see what the true costs are.
Rationalist
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It would result in a severe shortage of doctors. Medicare reimburses doctors for around 20 cents on the dollar (if that). If we expand Medicare to everyone, doctors would probably end up making less than $40K/year.
zappasguitar
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Too bad there weren't enough at the table to call for an up or down vote.
Republicans threatened to fillibuster anything that even came close to getting voted on
zappasguitar
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The Almighty
I believe your numbers are reversed... I am pretty sure it is about 75-80 cents on the dollar... not 20
Okay, in my continuing effort to teach you something... Ill ask the question.
What about common sense would cause us not to use the Medicare model for health care reform.
This is true, and almost never do Dr's currently get paid 100%. Insurance rates are discounted and anyone who is self pay gets a discount also.
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
Perhaps you are unaware the there has been a shortage of doctors in this country for a decade.
Obamacare does nothing to address that, in fact, it explodes it .. Medicare for all Americans / HR 676 / S 703 does.
Medicare supports Graduate Medical Education.
Physicians for a National Health Program has submitted highlights of S703:
Patients go to any doctor or hospital of their choice.
The program is paid for by combining current sources of government health spending into a single fund with modest new taxes amounting to less than what people now pay for insurance premiums and out-of-pocket expenses.
Comprehensive benefits, including coverage for dental, mental health, and prescription drugs.
While federally funded, the program is to be administered by the states.
By eliminating the high overhead and profits of the private, investor-owned insurance industry, along with the burdensome paperwork imposed on physicians, hospitals and other providers, the plan saves at least $400 billion annually – enough money to provide comprehensive, quality care to all.
Community health centers are fully funded, giving the 60 million Americans now living in rural and underserved areas access to care.
To address the critical shortage of primary care physicians and dentists, the bill provides resources for the National Health Service Corps to train an additional 24,000 health professionals.
http://www.healthcare-now.org/whats-single-payer/s-915hr-1200/s-703
Billy the Great Khan
Uwaa OmO
Ever been to the VA?
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The Almighty
Ok Garud... we get it, you think you have found a new schtick...
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
Democrats used reconciliation to pass the ACA .. and they could have used reconciliation to pass HR 676 / S 703 instead.
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
I wish you would look up the words 'political courage.'
Are you aware that only 35% of the country supports Obamacare?
Only 57% of democrats.
Some 'compromise.'