29% think armed revolt might be necessary

The idea that an armed revolution is possible in modern-day America is pretty fantasyland. How would such a large group organize unnoticed? Who would they even shoot at once organized?
 
maineman said:
I do not believe that 25 million right wing nutcases could "run" an insurgency. The level of chaotic disorganization would insure their defeat....imho.
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Right, like the same thing in Afghanistan has done. Totally ensured that. You are a lunatic who can't even remember current history, let alone revolutionary history.
 
Thing1 said:
The idea that an armed revolution is possible in modern-day America is pretty fantasyland. How would such a large group organize unnoticed? Who would they even shoot at once organized?
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The idea that such a thing would need to first "organize" into one huge organization is where the fantasy lies, not that enough people to actually threaten government stability could never possibly start taking action which would then propel others to do the same. 29% say it may be necessary, that isn't even the number that may support such an action, helping to hide those taking action, etc.

The reality is, it wouldn't even take that many, that's just a reasonable number based on the number of people who say that it may be necessary. If 29% say it may be necessary as this poll suggests, that is a bit over 100 million people who are not rejecting the thought outright or hedging, about 25% may actually take action if they believe it becomes necessary... That's a lot of people.
 
Damocles said:
You really don't have to. We can start with the idea that if revolution came that nobody in the military would be affected by it or join in that side of things, that is pure fantasy. Secondly, to fight an unbalanced fight one doesn't need to "outgun", they just need to be able to do as the insurgents do in Afghanistan. This idea that the government can see and hear everything about everybody... absurd, absolutely batty. 29% of the population say this, they don't have enough frickin' drones to cover 100 million people.
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:0) This is quite fascinating folly.

You can't seriously believe that 29% of Americans would take to armed revolution. That's laughable. That's a right-wing fantasy.

And you're counting on the military? :0) That's a joke.

Dude, they are fully prepared for those who live inside video games.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990
allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995
allows the government to seize and control the communication media.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997
allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998
allows the government to seize all means of transportation, including personal cars, trucks or vehicles of any kind and total control over all highways, seaports, and waterways.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10999
allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000
allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001
allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare functions.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002
designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003
allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004
allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005
allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities.

They will infiltrate any band of terrorists .. as they will be designated .. and soon their own mothers will be turning on them, as well as neighbors, family, and friends.

I find this debate quite funny. :0)
 
I guarantee you that the government thinks this is a possibility and has created contingency plans for it. It would be extremely difficult for them as well. Easy to hide among the population, etc. The idea that it would be impossible is lunacy.

It's like making fun of "preppers" when the government has spent more of our money and created some of the best prep sites that will ever exist. The US government is the largest prepper around, and believe me they have plans to try to deal with this kind of thing too.
 
The problem with an armed revolution isn't that it has no chance of success, despite the long odds.

The problem is that it would give the powers that be an excuse to put martial law in place, and then remove any rights or freedoms we have. All in the name of keeping us safe.

In fact, it would make a good conspiracy theory that the gov't is behind the idea of an armed revolt and would even start it. All so that they could gain more control and more power.
 
Damocles said:
I guarantee you that the government thinks this is a possibility and has created contingency plans for it. It would be extremely difficult for them as well. Easy to hide among the population, etc. The idea that it would be impossible is lunacy.

It's like making fun of "preppers" when the government has spent more of our money and created some of the best prep sites that will ever exist. The US government is the largest prepper around, and believe me they have plans to try to deal with this kind of thing too.
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The government needs to be "preppers" in a global thermonuclear world.

I don't necessarily make fun of "preppers"....I just don't understand why people would want to live in a post apocalyptic world. I think I'd rather be at ground zero and meet my maker.
 
Damocles said:
Right, like the same thing in Afghanistan has done. Totally ensured that. You are a lunatic who can't even remember current history, let alone revolutionary history.
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a "lunatic"? really? how cordial.

to compare the US, a country where no one is really used to fighting anyone else and everyone lives a relatively cushy life under a well organized government with a powerful standing army and myriad levels of police forces to Afghanistan, where folks have been fighting one another in tribal settings for centuries and there IS no governmental organization to speak of is not "lunacy", but the comparison is certainly not valid.
 
Steelplate said:
The government needs to be "preppers" in a global thermonuclear world.

I don't necessarily make fun of "preppers"....I just don't understand why people would want to live in a post apocalyptic world. I think I'd rather be at ground zero and meet my maker.
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That's pretty insulting to a fuck ton of people in the world, and in history.
 
Chapel The Evergreen said:
That's pretty insulting to a fuck ton of people in the world, and in history.
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You're going to have to explain that one. How can you be "insulted" by the way I would choose to go out in a nuclear apocolypse? That I'd rather be vaporized than deal with pestilence, famine, cancer and a slow death...

If that insults you? Go fuck yourself.
 
Chapel The Evergreen said:
Because it implies that if life gets harder, it's not worth living.
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Oh. That's what you took from that? What's the difference whether it's a nanosecond, a few weeks, or even a few years? Apparently, you think a global nuclear war is survivable. Even the best of preppers will run out of supplies at some point... then they'll be gone too. If you think differently, you're deluding yourself.
 
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