christiefan915
Catalyst
FTFY.
Poll: Majority of US for legal pot
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FTFY.
On a local level.... We had a terrable State Attorney, he prosecuted marajuana like it was murder, then he quit his elected position 9 months before the end of his term because the Koch brothers offered him a job.
Now we have a liberal State Attorney, a good man who Ive known for a long time.
They do not prosecute simple possession here in Palm Beach County anymore. As for Supercandy's argument about what Obama has done... it has at least one serious wrinkle... The Feds have never prosecuted simple possession and the FBI does not get involved in such enforcement. So... on the casual user, what happens at the local level is what is important.
Even in Colorado, where Possession is still a Federal Crime, the feds have said the will not be involved in enforcement.
Now we have a liberal State Attorney, a good man who Ive known for a long time.
They do not prosecute simple possession here in Palm Beach County anymore. As for Supercandy's argument about what Obama has done... it has at least one serious wrinkle... The Feds have never prosecuted simple possession and the FBI does not get involved in such enforcement. So... on the casual user, what happens at the local level is what is important.
Even in Colorado, where Possession is still a Federal Crime, the feds have said the will not be involved in enforcement.
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The Almighty
Yeah, I was just giving you shit for the site. I saw the stats and commented on them.
No, you asked for a 'valid' source for what I was talking about. I provided numerous sources on the same topic, many from left leaning organizations. I assumed that would help validate the information for you. They all pretty much say the same thing. So choose which source you find most valid and read up on it.
It started, officially with Nixon, it was ramped up and put into full gear with Reagan and Nancy's "just say no" campaign. It is mostly associated with Reagan, nobody needs a cite to know that, if they were alive in the 1980's.
christiefan915
Catalyst
I've tried it and wake up with a headache. Is this just coincidence?
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The Almighty
1) I was talking about Federal drug busts Jarod... which I have sourced.
2) It was String that sourced the individual arrests, which I then commented on
SmarterthanYou
rebel
there's a problem with your line of thinking on this. for those states that have legalized small amounts, or legalized med marijuana, but are still enforcing federal law turn their cases over to US attorneys, so it's still Obama doing this.
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The Almighty
I don't know. I have used it for years and never had that happen. You drinking enough water?
No, I also get a headach from it.
You have evidence of US Attorneys prosecuting simple marijuana possession on hand-off from state and locals? I highly doubt it is happening much at all.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
I've posted half a dozen articles on it over the last year. Is it rampant? no, but it happens, specifically in NY and Cali.
Do any of your sources have an actual side by side comparison? The rolloing stone article indicated that he was on pace to outdo Bush with raids on dispensaries and legal growers. It talks in general terms and fails to provide any hard data. The LA Weekly article is based on the RS article. Dispensaries and growers are only part of the issue, but it would be nice if you could provide ONE source that has some hard data. I am not interested in searching through a bunch of articles with vague references to make your point for you.
Like it or not, the Republicans are worse on this issue. The Democrats are bad too argument is nothing but whiny apologetics.
You did not provide any valid source. You provided sources quoting somebody making vague references and providing no hard data. Now maybe on of them has real numbers, but I am not doing your leg work.
You did not source anything.
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The Almighty
again, you are incorrect. While the 'just say no' campaign was under Reagan, the war on drugs started under Nixon, was ramped up under Ford and Carter and DECLINED under Reagan. The Just say no campaign was designed to try and educate on the use of drugs. It had nothing to do with the number of arrests. It was trying to prevent the usage in the first place.
You do need a cite if you wish to proclaim that Reagan was the one that 'ramped up the war on drugs'.
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The Almighty
How many links discussing it do you need? You just whined about me providing too many links, now you claim I did not provide any?
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The Almighty
In other words, you will ignore LEFT WING sites saying Obama is worse than Bush because it doesn't fit the narrative you want to believe. Like it or not, Obama is worse than Bush. The 'reps are worse' argument is nothing but whiny apologizing for Obama.
While I am awaire war on drugs existed prior to Reagan, he is still the president most associated with it. Say what you want, its true.
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The Almighty
Why is that Jarod, because YOU associate it with him? Yes, Reagan had the say no to drugs campaign. Yes, it was well publicized. But you have not provided any evidence to back up your claim. Nothing.
Clinton, Bush Jr. and Obama have all been far far worse in their crackdown. That is FACT.
The simple fact is that Bush was not preferable on this issue to either Clinton or Obama. Neither was Romney. That's not to say Obama and Clinton were preferable. They all sucked and continue to suck.
Remember, it was the Bush administration that prosecuted the case in Gonzales v Raich and along with Scalia the hut, eviscerated any argument limiting the commerce clause's reach.
Remember, it was the Bush administration that prosecuted the case in Gonzales v Raich and along with Scalia the hut, eviscerated any argument limiting the commerce clause's reach.