If Obama were White?!!

cawacko said:
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I'll take this idiotic offering as your admission of defeat. Thanks for playing. Now read up on public sector hiring under the triumvirate I mentioned earlier.
 
Sycamore said:
I don't think race plays much into this. Sure there were folks who voted for him due to his race - and AAs who though he'd be more sympathetic to them as a whole - and those who voted against him for the same reason. I don't know the numbers, but there was likely a balance.

And everything else remaining the same, he'd still be a politician, still center right, still fairly liberal, still a corporatist, still silent about poverty, still unable to address the problem of unemployment, still a supporter of Israel, still a "corporate puppet".
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Could you define/clarify unable?
 
Don Quixote said:
i suppose that you have ignored the repug obstructionism in congress where oddball mitch proclaimed that his top priority was to make obama a one term president

i do not know just how racial the repug obstructionism is, but i do know what it is doing to our nation and it is nothing good or at least very little of it is good

every few weeks we have another pseudo crisis where the repugs threaten to not do what they should be doing and then change their mind at the last minute

you act as if the u s still ran the world economy, well that has not been true for over a decade

problems in europe precipitated by our greedy bankers has thrown the world into an economic mess, including india and china

china is the worst of the lot, they need to expand and do not have the natural resources to do it and are looking around to try and buy or steal wherever they need...china is likely heading for a bust of its own that may screw up the world economy again

and in the midst of this, the repugs instead of working with the dims, are doing what they can to screw up and keep screwed up our economy so their masters can keep wages and benefits low while raking in profits as fast as they can

the repugs are still trying to implement an economic plan that has been shown to fail, yet they keep trying it over and over again expecting different results...one of the definitions of insanity

and yah, racism is mixed in there, please note that the vast majority of minority voters voted for obama not rummy and the majority of older white males voted for rummy

so what do the repugs do, try and stifle the minority vote and gerrymander minority voters into as few districts as possible and as many repug voters as possible into more districts so that they can control the house, however, that leaves the repugs in the house out on limb with obama sawing it off

oh well
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:hand: Great post, Don.
 
Althea said:
I'll take this idiotic offering as your admission of defeat. Thanks for playing. Now read up on public sector hiring under the triumvirate I mentioned earlier.
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LOL, no I'm laughing at your 'try facts for a change' comment like you are some badass. I enjoyed it.
 
cawacko said:
DQ, you are complaining about gerrymandering here but IIRC back in 2005 (or around that time) Arnold put a measure on the ballot that would have taken the power of gerrymandering out of the hands of politicians in California and into a group of judges (not politicians) and you said you voted against it. (It was ultimately put on the ballot again in 2010 and passed.)

Why are you against it now but not then when we had a chance to do something about it?
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what makes you think that i opposed it then or in 2010

i think that all things having to do with voting (including states' secretary of state or whomsoever decides these things) need to be non-partisan - in fact i would like to see a constitutional amendment requiring non-partisanship for voting regulations and oversight, but the repugs would never for for it

as for arnie baby, he makes a rather lousy politician and a not much better actor and is an adulterer
 
Don Quixote said:
what makes you think that i opposed it then or in 2010

i think that all things having to do with voting (including states' secretary of state or whomsoever decides these things) need to be non-partisan - in fact i would like to see a constitutional amendment requiring non-partisanship for voting regulations and oversight, but the repugs would never for for it

as for arnie baby, he makes a rather lousy politician and a not much better actor and is an adulterer
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My recollection is you said you voted against all the proposition measures on the special election ballot of which the gerrymandering issue was one of them. My apologies if I am wrong.
 
cawacko said:
There's a large difference in there having served 8 years VP.
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after ike recovered from his heart attack and took back over, he later complained about the mess tricky dick had left for him to clean up

oth, nobody but tricky dick could have recognized red china...but was that a good or bad thing for the u s
 
Don Quixote said:
after ike recovered from his heart attack and took back over, he later complained about the mess tricky dick had left for him to clean up

oth, nobody but tricky dick could have recognized red china...but was that a good or bad thing for the u s
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the question or discussion wasn't over whether Nixon was a good or bad President it was about the route (offices held) each took as a prior to becoming President.
 
Sycamore said:
More politically unable than anything, I suppose. To imagine a significant drop in unemployment with such a gridlock in Washington - or even passing of major legislation - is unrealistic, no?
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Agree 100%. But the list that included this issue tended to be more a list of your perception of his choices. This issue stood out because it exists due to no choice of Obama.

I could find a way to argue the pros, and cons of the other issues on the list.
 
cawacko said:
My recollection is you said you voted against all the proposition measures on the special election ballot of which the gerrymandering issue was one of them. My apologies if I am wrong.
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i used to vote against all propositions regardless, but decided to spend the time to check them out after all, yet i am still tempted to vote against all of them anyway, especially referendums

the one exception is things benefiting schools...if i could be rather sure that they would - as a free mason, i support education as does the fraternity

oh well

i think that the legislature should really take care of these things though, but then we have some of the best legislators that money can buy too
 
cawacko said:
LOL, ok tough guy.
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Not sure what 'tough' has to do with anything? You made a claim, and I offered you the truth about said claim.

Unable to refute my information re. unemployment, you chose to offer inane adolescent posts.

Which is what I expect from an adolescent idiot.

Nothing to do with 'tough', though.
 
Don Quixote said:
i used to vote against all propositions regardless, but decided to spend the time to check them out after all, yet i am still tempted to vote against all of them anyway, especially referendums

the one exception is things benefiting schools...if i could be rather sure that they would - as a free mason, i support education as does the fraternity

oh well

i think that the legislature should really take care of these things though, but then we have some of the best legislators that money can buy too
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I definitely agree with you on that. If I'm not mistaken close to 70% of our CA state budget is already determined by voter propositions. That's way too much to me. In theory I like that we have the proposition system to give voice to the people but in reality it doesn't work well. And you are right, our state politicians would rather pass tough issues onto voters in propositions than make decisions themselves.
 
cawacko said:
Yes DQ, i know that everything that has happened under Obama's watch has been the fault of Republicans in Congress. (and go read all of McConnel's quote that you frequently use a portion of)

one of us is misinterpreting the OP. I see the OP as saying the economic recovery is excellent and if Obama were white we'd be celebrating how good it is and giving him the credit. You obviously see it differently by your effort to defend Obama from any blame from a poor economy.
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you mean the economic disaster created by the bush administration?

and yes, i had a different interpretation of the op

while things are improving (slowly) due to a variety of factors, funding measures to repair and improve our infrastructure (that the repugs have consistently voted against) including schools would be a good thing, unfortunately, too many voters thought that the free ride of deferring maintenance would last forever

they need to remember TANSTAFL

oh well
 
Althea said:
Not sure what 'tough' has to do with anything? You made a claim, and I offered you the truth about said claim.

Unable to refute my information re. unemployment, you chose to offer inane adolescent posts.

Which is what I expect from an adolescent idiot.

Nothing to do with 'tough', though.
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When you try and make a point in a discussion and come at someone's integrity in your first comment with 'try and use the truth sometime' yeah you'll get the reponse you did. You think you're some badass. There are legions of internet warriors such as yourself.
 
cawacko said:
When you try and make a point in a discussion and come at someone's integrity in your first comment with 'try and use the truth sometime' yeah you'll get the reponse you did. You think you're some badass. There are legions of internet warriors such as yourself.
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Your post assumes that you have integrity. When you cannot address the obvious, and choose adolescent graphics instead, you've clearly illustrated the parameters of your 'integrity'.

I understand that this place tends to resemble a playpen from time to time. Come around to the adult section when you get your diaper changed.
 
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