Christianity under fire!

PostmodernProphet said:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.....and Congress has made no law making anyone pray to the Christian God....thus, no violation......now obviously, if Congress, or any state or local government DID make a law either requiring or preventing someone from praying to the Christian God, would that not be a law respecting the establishment of religion?......
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If the teacher does as patriot66 advocates, stands in front of class and announces that he's going to pray to God and anyone who would like to join in is free to do so, that could be interpreted as the teacher attempting to coerce students into praying.

Again...anyone in any school in any District in any city in any state in this great nation of ours can ALREADY pray anytime they wish.
 
bravo said:
Its not that I don't agree with the concept.....its that I don't agree with your concept.....

There is indeed a "wall of seperation" between Church and state...and that WALL of separation is that " the state shall make NO LAW with respect to the ESTABLISHMENT of religion".........no more, no less......the state shall make no laws that hinder, control, or support the establishment of a religion......

Said another way.....the state shall make no laws preventing or creating the establishment of a religion.

The amendment isn't written in Latin or Greek....its meaning is plain and its politics that bends the meaning to control the peoples right and to enable the
governments power over the people that the words strictly prohibit.....politics to drive a social agenda by government that the founders tryed hard to prevent from
happening......
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Actually it says that "Congress shall make no law respecting AN establishment of religion..."

AN establishment...not THE establishment.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
without a doubt, I expect all the atheists present will interpret it exactly that way.......however, it still will not be the government passing a law establishing something....
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Jesus freaks have thier own pagan schools to worship in. They should not poison the public schools with their paganism
 
ZappasGuitar said:
And SCOTUS says that The 1st Amendment to the Constitution DOES INDEED SAY there needs to be a wall between church and state.
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Then they can't read, duh! it's about not establishing one religion that is it, no one is trying to establish one religion. Wall, church, and state, do not exist in that amendment.
 
patriot66 said:
Then they can't read, duh! it's about not establishing one religion that is it, no one is trying to establish one religion. Wall, church, and state, do not exist in that amendment.
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Religious practices are also included, and the Founders created a system where the courts determine what is Constitutional. The three branches of your government, the checks and balances!
 
ZappasGuitar said:
If the teacher does as patriot66 advocates, stands in front of class and announces that he's going to pray to God and anyone who would like to join in is free to do so, that could be interpreted as the teacher attempting to coerce students into praying.

Again...anyone in any school in any District in any city in any state in this great nation of ours can ALREADY pray anytime they wish.
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B.S how do they know her intent?, it may just be so others can feel included.
 
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