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The Almighty
we also spend more on education...
One of the primary reasons our health care is so expensive is that we are one of the most obese countries on the planet.
Healthcare hikes... nothing to see here... move along
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we also spend more on education...
One of the primary reasons our health care is so expensive is that we are one of the most obese countries on the planet.
007
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007
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All changes once the government gets its foot in the door!
007
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And money makes the world go round!!
The hand that holds the purse strings is the hand that rules the world!
007
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You fucking lying pile of elephant dung, you rhinos dick sucking zebras arse breathed salad tossing drinker of obese Russians urine, you ass licking cum bucket, the government will control it if it holds the purse strings!
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
Unfortunately, Obamacare is driving them out of business .. especially family doctors at a time when there is already a critically serious shortage, and at a time when they will be needed more than ever.
That's the unfortunate truth.
Single-payer and the public option were the only viable solutions.
Cancel 2016.2
The Almighty
Anyway I can ban people from this thread after the fact? If so, please ban Desh's ignorance from this thread. Thanks!
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
Yes ma'am, I can.
First, I am not siding with republican opinion .. I'm siding with the truth and reality.
Think Your Doctor's Busy Now? Just Wait Until Obamacare Kicks In
http://www.forbes.com/sites/bruceja...bamacare-millions-more-insured-patients-loom/
Is America running out of doctors?
ObamaCare is set to expand the number of insured Americans, but an apparent shortage of doctors could make it difficult to treat them all
http://theweek.com/article/index/231267/is-america-running-out-of-doctors
Where Have All the Doctors Gone? Physician Shortage to Get Worse
http://www.dellchildrens.net/about_..._doctors_gone_physician_shortage_to_get_worse
Doctor Shortage Likely to Worsen With Health Law
In the Inland Empire, an economically depressed region in Southern California, President Obama’s health care law is expected to extend insurance coverage to more than 300,000 people by 2014. But coverage will not necessarily translate into care: Local health experts doubt there will be enough doctors to meet the area’s needs. There are not enough now.
more
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/29/health/policy/too-few-doctors-in-many-us-communities.html?_r=0
I'm not blaming Obamacare for the shortage of doctors, which has beeen happening in the US for a decade. But I do blame any plan that failed to address one of the biggest reasons for healthcare reform in the first place.
Why are doctors going out of business?
One of the biggest reasons is because Medicare doesn't pay shit .. often not even covering the costs .. and Medicaid, where most of the 30 million new patients will have, pays even less then Medicare.
There are a plethora of reasons why doctors are going out of business and running out of family practice.
Obamacare and its failure to address the real issues of healthcare reform is one of them
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
Politico: Obamacare mandate may be ‘mandate plus’
Can’t get enough of Obamacare’s individual mandate? Get ready for “mandate plus.”
The Obama administration always said there was a practical reason it needed the mandate, which starts next year. It wasn’t to be mean to people — it was supposed to pull in enough healthy customers to help pay for all the sick people who will get coverage. That’s why the White House stuck with it all the way to the Supreme Court — however unpopular politically, it was the best tool to make the new health system work
Here’s the catch: The individual mandate penalties will be pretty weak as they are phased in over two years — only $95 when they start in 2014, much less than it costs to buy insurance. And yet, everyone with pre-existing conditions will have to be accepted for coverage right away.
That’s why insurance companies are telling the administration the mandate won’t be enough for the first two years. They want more incentives — such as a late enrollment fee — to get healthy people to sign up quickly. Without getting the healthy folks in, the fear is that everyone’s health insurance premiums could shoot through the roof when all those sick people get their coverage.
The idea is being called “mandate plus” — because some of the ideas were floated by health experts last year as replacements, in case the Supreme Court struck the mandate down. Now that the mandate is here to stay, insurance companies and some policy experts say the other ideas should go hand in hand with the coverage requirement to make the whole system work — and be affordable.
The states could impose some of these incentives, too, and they could become a future lobbying battleground. But right now, the insurers are focused on persuading the Department of Health and Human Services to add them on its own.
The key really is, how do you get younger people to buy coverage?” said Justine Handelman, vice president for legislative and regulatory policy at the Blue Cross and Blue Shield Association. “If you can jump in and out every time you need services, costs will go up.”
The mandate is the “stick” that’s supposed to prevent that, by making people pay a penalty (or as the Supreme Court called it, a tax) if they don’t get health coverage when they’re eligible. When the mandate is at full strength in 2016, people will pay $695 or 2.5 percent of their income, whichever is greater.
But from a practical perspective, it’s really not that much of a stick in the first two years. Next year, if you don’t get health insurance, you’d pay $95 or 1 percent of your income — a little less than you might pay for an iPod Nano. In 2015, you’d pay $325 or 2 percent of your income.
“Certainly, we are concerned that the penalty is just $95 in the first year, which is far below the cost of coverage,” Handelman said.
That’s why some insurers want HHS to give them more sticks
more
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/obamacare-mandate-may-be-mandate-plus-86115.html#ixzz2HyLvim00
Can’t get enough of Obamacare’s individual mandate? Get ready for “mandate plus.”
The Obama administration always said there was a practical reason it needed the mandate, which starts next year. It wasn’t to be mean to people — it was supposed to pull in enough healthy customers to help pay for all the sick people who will get coverage. That’s why the White House stuck with it all the way to the Supreme Court — however unpopular politically, it was the best tool to make the new health system work
Here’s the catch: The individual mandate penalties will be pretty weak as they are phased in over two years — only $95 when they start in 2014, much less than it costs to buy insurance. And yet, everyone with pre-existing conditions will have to be accepted for coverage right away.
That’s why insurance companies are telling the administration the mandate won’t be enough for the first two years. They want more incentives — such as a late enrollment fee — to get healthy people to sign up quickly. Without getting the healthy folks in, the fear is that everyone’s health insurance premiums could shoot through the roof when all those sick people get their coverage.
The idea is being called “mandate plus” — because some of the ideas were floated by health experts last year as replacements, in case the Supreme Court struck the mandate down. Now that the mandate is here to stay, insurance companies and some policy experts say the other ideas should go hand in hand with the coverage requirement to make the whole system work — and be affordable.
The states could impose some of these incentives, too, and they could become a future lobbying battleground. But right now, the insurers are focused on persuading the Department of Health and Human Services to add them on its own.
The key really is, how do you get younger people to buy coverage?” said Justine Handelman, vice president for legislative and regulatory policy at the Blue Cross and Blue Shield Association. “If you can jump in and out every time you need services, costs will go up.”
The mandate is the “stick” that’s supposed to prevent that, by making people pay a penalty (or as the Supreme Court called it, a tax) if they don’t get health coverage when they’re eligible. When the mandate is at full strength in 2016, people will pay $695 or 2.5 percent of their income, whichever is greater.
But from a practical perspective, it’s really not that much of a stick in the first two years. Next year, if you don’t get health insurance, you’d pay $95 or 1 percent of your income — a little less than you might pay for an iPod Nano. In 2015, you’d pay $325 or 2 percent of your income.
“Certainly, we are concerned that the penalty is just $95 in the first year, which is far below the cost of coverage,” Handelman said.
That’s why some insurers want HHS to give them more sticks
more
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/obamacare-mandate-may-be-mandate-plus-86115.html#ixzz2HyLvim00
christiefan915
Catalyst
There's a big difference between predicting an increase will occur, and confirming that it did.
christiefan915
Catalyst
How about banning 007's foul language?
Of course the actuaries are concerned. Most of them will be out of a job because they won't be able to deny care.
007
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It's a response to the foul language of others!
I just do it better!!
Liberty
Libertarian Minded
Yes! I would say something to try and educate evince, but what's the point.
Wouldn't do any good.
One things for sure, evince isn't paying for healthcare. And I bet living with mom and dad.
Billy the Great Khan
Uwaa OmO
No you cannot. Should have thought of that when you made the thread.