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There has been a lot of talk online and in the news about bullies.

Most of us picture the schoolyard bully or someone similar. And yet, we tolerate such cruel language and words against so many people.

Does the target of the bullying have to be weak or young for bullying to be wrong?

What constitutes bullying? Is calling someone insulting names bullying?
 
WinterBorn said:
There has been a lot of talk online and in the news about bullies.

Most of us picture the schoolyard bully or someone similar. And yet, we tolerate such cruel language and words against so many people.

Does the target of the bullying have to be weak or young for bullying to be wrong?

What constitutes bullying? Is calling someone insulting names bullying?
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In person, I'd say it is....its meant to intimidate....

Not online by any stretch...here it show frustration for the most part....in general....but there are exceptions....
 
bravo said:
In person, I'd say it is....its meant to intimidate....

Not online by any stretch...here it show frustration for the most part....in general....but there are exceptions....
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The problem I have with your distinction is that we have no idea who we are talking to online. We have only what they show us. I have had private conversations with several of the bigger assholes on this site, and some of them seem to be rather insecure. I think their words are meant to be a tough front. At the same time, they remember names they have been called. Which tells me those names hurt them more than they let on.

I think we write-off name calling as harmless all too easily.
 
WinterBorn said:
The problem I have with your distinction is that we have no idea who we are talking to online. We have only what they show us. I have had private conversations with several of the bigger assholes on this site, and some of them seem to be rather insecure. I think their words are meant to be a tough front. At the same time, they remember names they have been called. Which tells me those names hurt them more than they let on.

I think we write-off name calling as harmless all too easily.
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The bigger assholes ?....Tells us plenty doesn't it ?....I guess those with whom you've had
these private conversations will know who they are....
And it very well might not be so harmless to the insecure....

The anonymity of the Internet should alleviate any insecurity they have, but maybe not.....its quite different than a face to face confrontation with a bully.
You know what they say about 'sticks and stones'.....
 
No one forces anyone to post on political forums. If the vitriol and name-calling that commonly occurs here is so painful to someone, they should find another leisure-time activity.
 
Even when I feel my namecalling is solicited/warranted (started by someone else or in response to some greater real/perceived wrong) I come to regret it pretty quickly now.

However, what amounts to namecalling is unclear and subjective. What some might see as light hearted teasing can be painful to another and escalate quickly. The issues we discuss here are fairly personal to many of us. One person might think it is okay to tease one about "throwing them into a volcano" or their legendary math errors while others might not and think it is fine to start every debate by calling those who might disagree pinheads. That is often based on our political/personal biases.

Some things are deserving of derision. RazorX is either a troll of the left or a repugnant and despicable racist, I am not sure which. At other times people show a callous disregard to the offense they give and there is little reason to tolerate that.

There are worse things than namecalling, though. Invasions of privacy and cyber stalking are far more damaging to the victims and show a higher degree of cowardice in the perpetrator.
 
imo, an example of bullying on a messageboard would be someone who stalks your offline life and threatens your family and employment. name calling on an anonymous message board really isn't bullying. i can click off the site etc... imo, true bullying online needs to go beyond anonymous and actually threaten or intimidate your offline life in some manner.
 
bravo said:
The bigger assholes ?....Tells us plenty doesn't it ?....I guess those with whom you've had
these private conversations will know who they are....
And it very well might not be so harmless to the insecure....

The anonymity of the Internet should alleviate any insecurity they have, but maybe not.....its quite different than a face to face confrontation with a bully.
You know what they say about 'sticks and stones'.....
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Sticks and stones can break my bones, but krav maga can kill ya
 
I confess to having bullied Watermark online here on this board.......I feel so ashamed.......I will do it again tomorrow.....
 
Bijou and Howie tried to bully me with talk of me posting on other sites and having my IP address. But I handled them both the way you handle bullies. I smacked them both right in the mouth

Now Homo Howey has dsappeared and Bitchou has descended into madness. Never back down from a bully. Make em bleed
 
WinterBorn said:
The problem I have with your distinction is that we have no idea who we are talking to online. We have only what they show us. I have had private conversations with several of the bigger assholes on this site, and some of them seem to be rather insecure. I think their words are meant to be a tough front. At the same time, they remember names they have been called. Which tells me those names hurt them more than they let on.

I think we write-off name calling as harmless all too easily.
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So which name gets to StubbornResistanceToFacts most? :)
 
TheJanitor said:
So which name gets to StubbornResistanceToFacts most? :)
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None TamponString

This is an anonymous message board. This doesn't define me. I don't give two shits what you call me. You do because you changed your name after I started calling you Tamponstring. Clearly you like to dish it out but you can't take it. You should have learned from Homo Howey
 
WinterBorn said:
The problem I have with your distinction is that we have no idea who we are talking to online. We have only what they show us. I have had private conversations with several of the bigger assholes on this site, and some of them seem to be rather insecure. I think their words are meant to be a tough front. At the same time, they remember names they have been called. Which tells me those names hurt them more than they let on.

I think we write-off name calling as harmless all too easily.
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To be honest, I am probably the worst offender at lobbing the 'moron/retard/idiot' labels at the morons, idiots, retards of the board. I do take it quite lightly and had not considered it as bullying. More so it was my telling them what I thought of their intellectual capacity on a particular topic. In light of what you said, I will attempt to tone it down a bit as I had not considered that it could be construed as bullying.

That said, I do think people need to toughen up a bit. Words cannot hurt you unless you choose to let them.
 
WinterBorn said:
There has been a lot of talk online and in the news about bullies.

Most of us picture the schoolyard bully or someone similar. And yet, we tolerate such cruel language and words against so many people.

Does the target of the bullying have to be weak or young for bullying to be wrong?



What constitutes bullying? Is calling someone insulting names bullying?
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Any one who attacks and harasses another person for who they are is a bully.
 
TheJanitor said:
Even when I feel my namecalling is solicited/warranted (started by someone else or in response to some greater real/perceived wrong) I come to regret it pretty quickly now.

However, what amounts to namecalling is unclear and subjective. What some might see as light hearted teasing can be painful to another and escalate quickly. The issues we discuss here are fairly personal to many of us. One person might think it is okay to tease one about "throwing them into a volcano" or their legendary math errors while others might not and think it is fine to start every debate by calling those who might disagree pinheads. That is often based on our political/personal biases.

Some things are deserving of derision. RazorX is either a troll of the left or a repugnant and despicable racist, I am not sure which. At other times people show a callous disregard to the offense they give and there is little reason to tolerate that.

There are worse things than namecalling, though. Invasions of privacy and cyber stalking are far more damaging to the victims and show a higher degree of cowardice in the perpetrator.
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"think it is fine to start every debate by calling those who might disagree pinheads"

Pinhead is slang for a stupid person.....how else can it be phrased ?......
When a fact is posted and its mis-characterized and spun into an untruth defended with vigor or words taken out of context are used
to foster a complete lie..............you've met a pinhead....lol

Its the only polite way to get that point across......
 
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Superfreak said:
To be honest, I am probably the worst offender at lobbing the 'moron/retard/idiot' labels at the morons, idiots, retards of the board. I do take it quite lightly and had not considered it as bullying. More so it was my telling them what I thought of their intellectual capacity on a particular topic. In light of what you said, I will attempt to tone it down a bit as I had not considered that it could be construed as bullying.

That said, I do think people need to toughen up a bit. Words cannot hurt you unless you choose to let them.
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Fyi it does not bother me. But I will send it back eventually. It is frustrating when Damo then interjects with his very biased refereeing, calling ad hom on me.

It is ineffective, unless you are trolling. It is not just that it is unconvincing, but will lead you to errors.

You are not the worst, Imo, and my own namecalling has exceeded yours in the past if it does not still.
 
TheJanitor said:
Fyi it does not bother me. But I will send it back eventually. It is frustrating when Damo then interjects with his very biased refereeing, calling ad hom on me.

It is ineffective, unless you are trolling. It is not just that it is unconvincing, but will lead you to errors.

You are not the worst, Imo, and my own namecalling has exceeded yours in the past if it does not still.
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You were 100% incorrect on that thread and continued to create one straw man after another. You refused to actually discuss the points regardless of how many times I pointed them out to you. Just saying...
 
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