HUGE Setback for US/Israeli Plans to Attack Iran

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UN chief heading to Iran despite US, Israeli objections
August 23, 2012

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Efforts led by the United States and Israel to isolate Iran suffered a setback on Wednesday when the United Nations announced that Ban Ki-moon, the secretary general, would join officials from 120 countries in Tehran next week for a summit meeting that Iran has trumpeted as a vindication of its defiance and enduring importance in world affairs.

Mr. Ban’s decision to attend the meeting of the Nonaligned Movement, announced by his spokesman, Martin Nesirky, came despite objections from both the Americans and Israelis, including a phone call from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel. It was announced a few days after the new president of Egypt, a country that has long been estranged from Iran, said he would attend the summit meeting as well, a decision that had already unsettled the Israelis.

Taken together, the moves reinforced Iran’s contention that a reordering of powers is under way in the Middle East, where Western influence is waning, and that the American-Israeli campaign to vilify Iran as a rogue state that exports terrorism and secretly covets nuclear weapons is not resonating in much of the world.

The meeting of the Nonaligned Movement, a group formed during the cold war, includes a number of other countries that the United States has sought to marginalize, among them North Korea and Sudan, whose president, Omar Hassan al-Bashir, is wanted under a war crimes indictment by the International Criminal Court. Although Iran’s hosting of the meeting is strictly a coincidence of history — under a rotating system, Iran presides over the group through 2014 — Iranian leaders have portrayed it as a privilege that repudiates the American narrative.

“The extraordinary effort that the Iranian leaders have put into the summit is intended to showcase Iran’s global role and offer concrete evidence that the U.S. policy of isolating Iran has failed,” said Farideh Farhi, an independent Iranian scholar at the University of Hawaii.

“A case is being made that it is not the ‘global community’ that has problems with the Islamic republic, as repeatedly asserted by U.S. officials, but merely a U.S.-led-and-pressured coalition of countries,” she said. “And ironically the Obama administration is conceding the point by trying to pressure various leaders from attending the meeting.”

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There was no immediate reaction to Mr. Ban’s decision from Israel. But according to Mr. Netanyahu’s office, he had telephoned Mr. Ban on Aug. 10 and told him that such a trip, even if well intentioned, would be a mistake. “Your visit will grant legitimacy to a regime that is the greatest threat to world peace and security,” Mr. Netanyahu was quoted as saying.

Even before Mr. Ban made his decision known, the Israeli government was asserting that the sanctions effort against Iran was not working, a conclusion that was reinforced for the Israelis because of the decision to attend the summit meeting in Iran by President Mohamed Morsi of Egypt.

“If you’re going there, if you’re paying homage to the leaders of Iran, what kind of diplomatic isolation is that?” Mark Regev, Mr. Netanyahu’s spokesman, said of Mr. Morsi’s decision.

The reaction to Mr. Ban’s announcement was more muted from the Obama administration, which had engaged in a less public effort to dissuade him.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/48760347/ns/world_news-the_new_york_times/

Is America still the "leader of the free world?"
 
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UN chief heading to Iran despite US, Israeli objections
August 23, 2012

excerpts --

Efforts led by the United States and Israel to isolate Iran suffered a setback on Wednesday when the United Nations announced that Ban Ki-moon, the secretary general, would join officials from 120 countries in Tehran next week for a summit meeting that Iran has trumpeted as a vindication of its defiance and enduring importance in world affairs.

Mr. Ban’s decision to attend the meeting of the Nonaligned Movement, announced by his spokesman, Martin Nesirky, came despite objections from both the Americans and Israelis, including a phone call from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel. It was announced a few days after the new president of Egypt, a country that has long been estranged from Iran, said he would attend the summit meeting as well, a decision that had already unsettled the Israelis.

Taken together, the moves reinforced Iran’s contention that a reordering of powers is under way in the Middle East, where Western influence is waning, and that the American-Israeli campaign to vilify Iran as a rogue state that exports terrorism and secretly covets nuclear weapons is not resonating in much of the world.

The meeting of the Nonaligned Movement, a group formed during the cold war, includes a number of other countries that the United States has sought to marginalize, among them North Korea and Sudan, whose president, Omar Hassan al-Bashir, is wanted under a war crimes indictment by the International Criminal Court. Although Iran’s hosting of the meeting is strictly a coincidence of history — under a rotating system, Iran presides over the group through 2014 — Iranian leaders have portrayed it as a privilege that repudiates the American narrative.

“The extraordinary effort that the Iranian leaders have put into the summit is intended to showcase Iran’s global role and offer concrete evidence that the U.S. policy of isolating Iran has failed,” said Farideh Farhi, an independent Iranian scholar at the University of Hawaii.

“A case is being made that it is not the ‘global community’ that has problems with the Islamic republic, as repeatedly asserted by U.S. officials, but merely a U.S.-led-and-pressured coalition of countries,” she said. “And ironically the Obama administration is conceding the point by trying to pressure various leaders from attending the meeting.”

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There was no immediate reaction to Mr. Ban’s decision from Israel. But according to Mr. Netanyahu’s office, he had telephoned Mr. Ban on Aug. 10 and told him that such a trip, even if well intentioned, would be a mistake. “Your visit will grant legitimacy to a regime that is the greatest threat to world peace and security,” Mr. Netanyahu was quoted as saying.

Even before Mr. Ban made his decision known, the Israeli government was asserting that the sanctions effort against Iran was not working, a conclusion that was reinforced for the Israelis because of the decision to attend the summit meeting in Iran by President Mohamed Morsi of Egypt.

“If you’re going there, if you’re paying homage to the leaders of Iran, what kind of diplomatic isolation is that?” Mark Regev, Mr. Netanyahu’s spokesman, said of Mr. Morsi’s decision.

The reaction to Mr. Ban’s announcement was more muted from the Obama administration, which had engaged in a less public effort to dissuade him.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/48760347/ns/world_news-the_new_york_times/

Is America still the "leader of the free world?"

Will we be involved in another war if Mr. Romney is elected?
 
Have you been listening to the rhetoric?
'rhetoric', is what they do in that region. It kept Iran at bay for years, when Hussein did it.


Any talks are better than no talks. I don't see this as a bad thing.

Nothing will come of it, but talking is always good.
 
I seriously hope that is not the case. Gary Johnson for President sounds better all the time.

Any plans to attack Iran just got put on hold. A large part of the world is demonstrating that they do not want to be led by America. It seems that our destruction of Libya was the last straw. Everybody but Americans can clearly see what we've become. Now even Pakistan wants a divorce and wants us to keep our money and get the fuck out of their country. So said the Iraqis, so said the Libyans, so say the Afghanis.

Cowboy-style "peace mission" American intervention and war is coming to an end. Any attack on Iran from this meeting on will be exposed as an atrocity.
 
If you don't know of US/Isreali desires to attack Iran, first, you didn't read the article, second, you don't know your history.

I don't know what to tell you brother.

first off, i did read the article and that region of the country is of interest to me. history, in this case, isn't very helpful. there is no way america has the will to attack iran. israel, sure, but not america.
 
'nonaligned' nations, what a joke

i wonder how they would feel if israel bombed iran while they are there

it would be interesting to find out if iran built their nuclear facilities deep enough and reinforced enough

and how effective their antiaircraft system is

oh well
 
first off, i did read the article and that region of the country is of interest to me. history, in this case, isn't very helpful. there is no way america has the will to attack iran. israel, sure, but not america.

True Yurt, America didn't have the will to attack Iraq or Afghanistan either, yet we are mired in these two wars ten years now.

Further, your man Mitt has openely stated he will invade Iran. Of course, he is also quite worried about Russia, but Mitt's insanity is not the topic of this thread.
 
I seriously hope that is not the case. Gary Johnson for President sounds better all the time.

exactly... let Europe deal with Europe... the mid east with the mid east, etc... pull our troops back within our borders with a couple of strategic defense positions outside of the country... ie... we should probably maintain Diego Garcia and have a presence in South Korea (as long as they want us there).
 
If you don't know of US/Isreali desires to attack Iran, first, you didn't read the article, second, you don't know your history.

I don't know what to tell you brother.

Some people are insanely slow... ever since the Shah went down we have wanted to take Iran's theocracy down. Give Yurt another few decades and he will realize the reality of our relationship with Iran.

I would agree with your other comments. It is not likely to matter who gets elected in November. Israel is on a leash right now, but they are capable of breaking it and they will if they feel threatened. If Iran gets close to a nuclear weapon... Israel will repeat the Osirak operation.
 
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