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They didn't come about through altruism, it was legislation and government agencies policing the environment that made that happen.
Which many rightwingers opposed, and continue to oppose.
They didn't come about through altruism, it was legislation and government agencies policing the environment that made that happen.
Which many rightwingers opposed, and continue to oppose.
Why shouldn't we? For the past 50 years we've spent untold billions cleaning up the environment, and yet there are fools here in this very thread, arguing that we are worse off than ever. If the monumental efforts made in the past 50 years isn't good enough, and we are worse than ever, then we need to stop spending money on it... what's the point? And I guess it might be a good time to point out, the 1972 Clean Air Act was signed into law by a Republican. I guess Nixon had a brain fart that day, and forgot he was supposed to be opposed, huh?
You think today's rightwingers would support Nixon?
...you come back with the charge that Republicans have opposed these things all along, ...you want to claim Nixon wasn't someone today's Republican would support.
This is the problem with trying to argue with a fucking idiot, they keep jumping around from one thing to another. It's pointed out that we've done monumental things to clean up the environment over the past 50 years, you come back with the charge that Republicans have opposed these things all along, that is countered with the fact that Nixon signed the Clean Air Act, and now you want to claim Nixon wasn't someone today's Republican would support. Well, we're not talking about who today's Republican would support, we're talking about Republicans historically supporting environmental policy. You were wrong and I nailed your ass on it, and now you wish to change the topic and make a different lame-ass argument you can't support. It's about all the fuck you people can do these days.. run from one ridiculous failed argument to the next, and hope no one notices how badly you're getting your butt kicked. I don't think it's working for you.
Nixon set up the EPA.
Christ, you're stupid.
Link up to where I said either of those things, or admit you're a liar.
Which many rightwingers opposed, and continue to oppose.
Exactly! But that doesn't count as Republicans supporting environmental policy, because today's Republican wouldn't vote for Nixon, according to asswipe! That is.... unless we're talking about Nixon's Southern Strategy... then every Republican is exactly the same as in 1968! It gets very confusing!
If you are really so concerned for the planet then you should be calling on Muslims clerics and Catholic bishops to speak out against over population.
What "finite" resources are you talking about here? Oil? Okay... what proof do you have that this is a "finite" resource? I know that we believe oil comes from the decaying dinosaurs underneath the many layers of earth, but how do we know that we know everything? How do we know that it's impossible the planet may continue to produce oil from decayed plant/human/animal materials for eons into the future? It may be, that our planet is much more resourceful than we imagine.
Let's be clear before some pinhead chortles in... I am not saying that this IS THE CASE... but what if we don't KNOW everything? Just a question!!
This is a compelling question, and probably deserves it's very own thread, but I would be interested in what you think we should do to control population? Should we set a 'maximum' limit, and say that everyone who enters the world over that limit has to be exterminated? How do you handle this one? Again... just curious as to what you think we can do, because I can't find a moral solution to this problem, to be honest. We continue to advance as a species, and become smarter and wiser, enabling us to live longer healthier lives, we eliminate diseases entirely, saving billions of lives probably, we've created modern conveniences to make surviving easier, and we've developed a mindset that 'living' is precious and important to everyone, and as a result, even more people are there to procreate. So what do we do?
There is a simple solution. After the first child one is sterilized. That goes for both men and women. You father a child....SNIP! You bear child......SNIP!
Dixie, you are just talking rubbish it takes tens of millions of years to produce oil naturally.
Oh noes!! You're talking about taking away the right to breed like bunnies! People have a RIGHT to stink up the world with too many kids, ya know. Besides, God needs more cannon fodder for his wars (see; Quiverfull). You're talking crazy, man.....
From my scrapbook of ideas... (this one is for a porn movie--I still need a good title!)
It's 2055, and we finally allow measures to control population, by all males under 30 having mandatory sterilization. The idea being; to eliminate a generation of reproduction, thus 'correcting' our overpopulation problem. But just as soon as all young bucks are sterilized, we are devastated by a cataclysmic disaster, and it wipes out almost all of human civilization. So the old geezers who weren't sterilized, are 'forced' to repopulate the planet with all the young hot babes... and that's where the hi-jinx begin!![]()
Sorry. And after thinking it through I believe some gals only have sex because they want a child so if they couldn't have a child...I wouldn't want to live in a world like that.
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I don't know, I would think that such an anemic view of sex would reflect on their prowess as well.
And I hold so much sway with men of the cloth, after all.![]()
Well, it's been known women lead men astray. A beautiful woman, a weak moment and the Devil wins!
Right. Blame Satan!