Your earlier inference that the US was more paranoid seems a bit out of place. I know why the bins were removed, it is why I pointed it out.
Fatal shooting at Denver screening of The Dark Knight Rises
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Your earlier inference that the US was more paranoid seems a bit out of place. I know why the bins were removed, it is why I pointed it out.
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True. You can also add radio and any printed material transmitted by wire or over airwaves.
In support of this theory...
He had many home made grenades in his apartment, just saying. Most of the explosive was liquid in bottles, he could have put them in other containers and carried them in, or even just left them in the bottles...
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Your earlier inference that the US was more paranoid seems a bit out of place. I know why the bins were removed, it is why I pointed it out.
So we agree then!
With what? That the bins were removed because you were afraid that people would put bombs in them? It doesn't change that we seem to be either oblivious or less paranoid. Our trash bins remain regardless of even homegrown idiots blowing stuff up and that they make easy places to hide bombs.
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Do you really think that carrying liquid based home made bombs would have worked? They would have gone off long before he ever got to the cinema.
1. Not all of his bombs were liquid based.
2. Yes, he had a very high level of bomb sophistication according to police reports.
A bit of time and planning for that type of attack instead of the other is all it would have taken.
Still can't find it, huh? Of course not; because they're not there.
If y'all want to literally interpret the Constitution, so be it. While you're at it, why don't you just take away the right to vote from women and blacks again and ship the buhlacks back to the plantations where they belong!
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The Almighty
1) Again, you don't need to plant a bomb. You can walk in with them, just as you do with a gun, and lob them at the crowd (or worse... lob the first one at the exit and then lob subsequent ones into the crowd)
2) Bombs can be made with fuses. People at first thought the smoke grenades were an act. He could easily have lobbed bombs with fuses into the crowd and you most likely would have ended up with far more dead. He could have been back out of the exit long before the bombs went off.
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what's not there? that the founders meant 'national guard' when they wrote 'well regulated militia'? of course it's not there, because that's not what they meant.
here is what they meant.......
"No freeman shall be debarred the use of arms..." - Thomas Jefferson
"...The people have the right to bear arms for the defense of themselves and the state..." - Pennyslvania Declaration of 1776
"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined." -Patrick Henry
"I ask sir, who is the militia? It is the whole people...To disarm the people, that is the best and most effective way to enslave them..." - George Mason
"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom; it is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." - William Pitt, 1783
"Americans [have] the right and advantage of being armed -- unlike citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust people with arms." - James Madison
"...Arms like laws discourage and keep the invader and the plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. The balance of power is the scale of peace." -Thomas Paine
"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword because the whole body of people are armed and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States..." - Noah Webster
"Liberty and order will never be perfectly safe until a trespass on the Constitution provisions for either, shall be felt with the same keenness that resents and invasion of the dearest rights..." - James Madison
"They that give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin
"Arms in the hands of individual citizens may be used at individual discretion...in private self defense." - John Adams
"Those who reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it." - Thomas Paine
"The great principle is that every man be armed....everyone who is able may have a gun." - Patrick Henry
"Let me add, that a bill of rights is what the people are entitled to against every government on earth, general or particular; and what no just government should refuse or rest on inference." -Thomas Jefferson: Letter to James Madison, Dec. 20, 1787
"...What country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify is a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure...." - Thomas Jefferson: Letter to Colonel Smith, Nov. 13, 1787.
"The right of the citizens to bear arms is just one more guarantee against arbitrary government, one more safeguard against the tyranny which now appears remote in America, but which historically has proved to be always possilble." - Vice President Hubert H. Humphrey
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The Almighty
there are some nuts on this site, so I won't go into detail on how it could have been done. But he showed pretty high levels of sophistication with the bombs he left behind in his apartment. The cops here had to bring in fed help as they weren't sure how to defuse the damn things.
also, who said he had to make the bombs liquid? That said, even if he did make liquid ones, if he is smart enough to make the types of bombs he did, odds are he would be careful in their transportation.
Nitro is transferred all over the world. Yet people aren't blowing up all the time in transporting it.
So, why didn't he?
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It depends on how he transported them and what sort of containers they were in.
He had grenades, hy dint he use those in the theater, why guns?
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I am not the one suggesting that the Bill of Rights should be based on the technology of the 1770s. You did that.
We are merely suggesting that you cannot pick and choose which right gets held to teh standards of the 18th century and which do not.
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The Almighty
Are you going to continue asking the same questions over and over and ignoring the fact that we have already answered this?
Again... he chose to use guns. Why he did, I do not know for certain. Given what he stated, my guess is he was trying to emulate the joker (as he said he was). That said, it doesn't matter why he chose the guns. The point is that he could have just as easily chosen bombs. Which again means that blaming guns for this is not logical given that he could have simply chosen bombs if he did not have access to guns.
So,why did he use guns, wouldn't bombs have done more damage?
So, why didn't he use them?
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You'd have to ask him. I cannot imagine why he would want to kill people. So I certainly cannot imagine why he chose one method over another.
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The Almighty
why did he start with the shot gun instead of the AR15? Why did he dye his hair orange? Why did he choose theater 9 instead of 10? Why did he choose the midnight showing instead of the matinee? Why did he choose Century 16 instead of Arapahoe Crossing?