They did it on their own

these kids need to have their lemonade stand confiscated, their parents should be ticketed 1,000 dollars each, and 400 hours of community service should be enforced upon all 3 kids with classes about how you cannot have a business in this country unless you pay the government for the privilege of a license to operate said establishment and the certificates necessary to show each customer that you have the appropriate level of expert training in making and serving lemonade.
 
Althea said:
Where'd they get the lemons? Or the potable water to make the lemonade? Or the subsidized electricity that makes the ice?

Or the streets that the customers drive on?

Need I go on?

Now that we have a strong infrastructure in place, everyone wants the govt. to go away.

How quaint
Click to expand...
No, no stay, Mrs Government, just shut up and stay out of our way. We're not paying you to stand on the soap box and preach down to us. We'll give our thanks in prayer. ;)
 
Granule said:
No, no stay, Mrs Government, just shut up and stay out of our way. We're not paying you to stand on the soap box and preach down to us. We'll give our thanks in prayer. ;)
Click to expand...
The govt won't need your prayers, but they will need taxes on your profits.

This, so that they can keep the power plants operating, so you can stay in business.
 
Damocles said:
Purchased lemons from another business. Water came from the well we dug.
Click to expand...
How do you know those lemons are safe to eat? Or that the growers aren't poisening the aquifer with pesticides? How much would the lemons cost if the military didn't spend billions patrolling the Persian Gulf, in order to keep fuel prices down?


Private roads... We use them and live on them...
Click to expand...
Nonsense.





Anyway, even if none of that were true and we used public roads and paid for water from the water company... everybody has the same use of those roads, the same water, the same access to the supermarket, why did these entrepreneurs find success where others failed? Was it the fact that they risked capital when others would not? That they persevered when others quit? Did they do this themselves? Yeah, I'd say so. From the exact same starting point they found a way to succeed.
Click to expand...
Nobody said entrepreneurs don't work hard. They just have to pay taxes on profits. Seems like a pretty simple concept.
 
Althea said:
How do you know those lemons are safe to eat? Or that the growers aren't poisening the aquifer with pesticides? How much would the lemons cost if the military didn't spend billions patrolling the Persian Gulf, in order to keep fuel prices down?


Nonsense.





Nobody said entrepreneurs don't work hard. They just have to pay taxes on profits. Seems like a pretty simple concept.
Click to expand...

How do you know they aren't? Your premise is that there would be no safe food without the federal gobblement? Well how the hell did people survive before the FDA? We never grew crops before the Dept of Agriilture. Kids never went to school before the Dept of Education. And you couldn't possibly get up in the morning without the Dept of Alarms giving you your national wake up call.

Here is a thought experiment for you. Lots of countries have roads. Hell, Belize has roads. Why aren't they economic powerhouses?

And since you are worried so much about folks paying taxes, why not start with the folks who pay no federal income tax an actually get welfare in the name of the EIC?

You obviously know nothing about running a business, but then if you did you wouldn't be a left winger.

If Romney were smart he would play that clip over an over and over again until election day.

The left wingers know OWEbama stepped in it that is why they are circling the wagons. This is why they don't let him go off teleprompter
 
FactsRStubborn said:
How do you know they aren't?
Click to expand...
Actually, I know that they are, because we have govt. agencies to assure it. And I know that the water is clean, and safe to drink.


Actually, I don't know this, because these kids aren't operating a legal business. They could be using toilet water, and rotten lemons. They could be using anti freeze as sweetener, instead of sugar.

And nobody would know the difference.

That's why I'll make my own lemonade, before I support a Libertarian business.

Your premise is that there would be no safe food without the federal gobblement?
Click to expand...
My premise is that humans can't be trusted to do the right thing, when profit is the primary goal.

Ironically, that's what ended prohibition.
 
Somebody told the administration that the teleprompter made Obama seem canned, and robotic....I hope they keep listening to this person, because when he is off script, we get to see the real Obama.
 
Althea said:
Actually, I know that they are, because we have govt. agencies to assure it. And I know that the water is clean, and safe to drink.


Actually, I don't know this, because these kids aren't operating a legal business. They could be using toilet water, and rotten lemons. They could be using anti freeze as sweetener, instead of sugar.

And nobody would know the difference.

That's why I'll make my own lemonade, before I support a Libertarian business.

My premise is that humans can't be trusted to do the right thing, when profit is the primary goal.

Ironically, that's what ended prohibition.
Click to expand...

Your last statement is really the crux of the liberal mindset when in reality just the opposite is true. Profit motive has brought more prosperity to this world than the totality of any collectivist government. EVER.

Let's use your premise. If they were using rotten lemons don't you think the quality of their product would suffer? If they used antifreeze (as dumb as it is for you to even suggest) how long do you think it would be selling lemonade? You wouldn't need the gobblement to inspect them o prevent that. Their desire to profit forces them to create a quality product. Competition always benefits the consumer.

Even with all of those protections you claim are so beneficial, there is still rotten food, people still die from medications.

Now faced with this reality, instead of taking a step back and rethinking your positions, you will claim "yeah but without the government there would be even more". You see I know the liberal mind better than you do. That is why I am able to dispense their nonsense with such ease.

So answer this. I assume you have a job for which you receive a wage or as we could call it for this conversation. PROFIT. Does that mean you personally don't do the right thing because of profit?

Your premise is child like
 
Damocles said:
Purchased lemons from another business. Water came from the well we dug.


Private roads... We use them and live on them...


Obviously


Anyway, even if none of that were true and we used public roads and paid for water from the water company... everybody has the same use of those roads, the same water, the same access to the supermarket, why did these entrepreneurs find success where others failed? Was it the fact that they risked capital when others would not? That they persevered when others quit? Did they do this themselves? Yeah, I'd say so. From the exact same starting point they found a way to succeed.

Yeah. Quaint.
Click to expand...

IMO they succeeded because of their cuteness factor and it had nothing to do with lemonade.
 
FactsRStubborn said:
How do you know they aren't? Your premise is that there would be no safe food without the federal gobblement? Well how the hell did people survive before the FDA? We never grew crops before the Dept of Agriilture. Kids never went to school before the Dept of Education. And you couldn't possibly get up in the morning without the Dept of Alarms giving you your national wake up call.

Here is a thought experiment for you. Lots of countries have roads. Hell, Belize has roads. Why aren't they economic powerhouses?

And since you are worried so much about folks paying taxes, why not start with the folks who pay no federal income tax an actually get welfare in the name of the EIC?

You obviously know nothing about running a business, but then if you did you wouldn't be a left winger.

If Romney were smart he would play that clip over an over and over again until election day.

The left wingers know OWEbama stepped in it that is why they are circling the wagons. This is why they don't let him go off teleprompter
Click to expand...

If Rmoney's smart he won't push the idea that successful businessmen are successful presidents.

"Warren Harding (1920 to 1923) He studied law, sold insurance, and taught school but made his money as publisher of the Marion, Ohio, Daily Star. Harding used the newspaper to launch his political career; ironically, the press had a field day in the mid-1920s when his reputation was sullied by the Teapot Dome oil reserve scandal.

Jimmy Carter (1977 to 1981) A pioneer in the nuclear-powered Navy, Carter left the military to run his family's peanut-farm in Georgia. After leaving the White House, he was forced to sell the operation, which had foundered due to poor management and a drought. Inflation and unemployment dogged his presidency.

Herbert Hoover (1929 to 1933) Hoover was a successful mining engineer before he started a consulting firm and became known as the Doctor of Sick Mines. He was no doctor of sick economies, however. His handling of the Great Depression cost him his job in 1932, when he lost to Franklin D. Roosevelt.

George W. Bush (2001 to present) A Harvard M.B.A., Bush was an executive in several West Texas oil concerns that failed to prosper as oil prices tanked in the 1980s. In 1989, he bought a stake in the Texas Rangers baseball team that he later sold for a $14.2 million profit–even as the Rangers traded away slugger Sammy Sosa." (http://www.portfolio.com/careers/feature…
 
SmarterthanYou said:
but government can?
Click to expand...

SEE: the Robber Barons

Lassiz-faire government and economy are a libertarians wet dream .. but they exist nowhere on the face of the earth. They don't exist because business cannot be expected to regulate itself .. government oversight is required .. no differently than humans can be expected to regulate themselves. That's why we have laws.
 
Althea said:
Did I seem agitated? Quite the contrary. Do you plan to respond, or are you waiting for someone to pose those questions to the parents of the children?
Click to expand...


How about that?

I went and checked the entire thread to be sure and wouldn't ya know it...ol Yurt STILL hasn't answered ANY of the questions you put forth.

Now why would that be?
 
Damocles said:
Purchased lemons from another business. Water came from the well we dug.


Private roads... We use them and live on them...


Obviously


Anyway, even if none of that were true and we used public roads and paid for water from the water company... everybody has the same use of those roads, the same water, the same access to the supermarket, why did these entrepreneurs find success where others failed? Was it the fact that they risked capital when others would not? That they persevered when others quit? Did they do this themselves? Yeah, I'd say so. From the exact same starting point they found a way to succeed.

Yeah. Quaint.
Click to expand...


Did those two little girls DIG the well themselves or did they get some HELP from adults?
 
blackascoal said:
SEE: the Robber Barons

Lassiz-faire government and economy are a libertarians wet dream .. but they exist nowhere on the face of the earth. They don't exist because business cannot be expected to regulate itself .. government oversight is required .. no differently than humans can be expected to regulate themselves. That's why we have laws.
Click to expand...

neither can government be expected to regulate itself. the problem most people seem to have is they delued themselves with the perception that either one group wants NO regulation or TOTAL regulation. nothing could be further from the truth, but whatever. when people demand more and more government regulation, you end up with ridiculous policies like requiring a college degree to be an interior decorater, but only a high school diploma to be a paramedic.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top