Originally Posted by Drummie123 Originally Posted by Phantasmal The bulk of them are religious, moral laws which have nothing to do with a civil society Lying and murder are the only ones with any merit for a civil society. Yahweh forgot a lot of big ones Slavery Rape Child Abuse Genocide Instead of bashing Christianity, try to see this as a shopping spree for sets of values, where you don't have to buy anything you don't want. And if you can find a Biblical principle that you like, add it to ...
Originally Posted by Drummie123 Originally Posted by Phantasmal We’ve done that, it’s called civil law. Civil law and criminal law, both have their place. But before someone might run afoul of either civil law or criminal law, if they carry inside their hearts and minds, a code of behavior, let's call it a voluntary "moral law," which is imposed from within by each person, that moral law would serve to prevent so many people from ever getting to the point where they would violate a civil regulation or a criminal law.
Originally Posted by Drummie123 Originally Posted by Phantasmal Sorry, you are welcome to follow your Bible. I want nothing to do with it and the country’s governance. I am quite moral without it. No man is an island. The next time someone in America does some awful thing, whether it be a legal thing or an illegal thing, think about how ineffective our laws were in preventing that outrageous behavior. Do you think America, most ALL Americans, would be outraged if a KKK member burned down the house of a Black family? ...
Originally Posted by Drummie123 Originally Posted by AProudLefty We already have churches all over the USA. And yet here we are on the highway to hell. We need to create a set of guidelines that most all of us can embrace. We will not replace religions, we would offer something different. A set of guidelines that everyone can agree on and embrace. We will agree on adopting ideas which have been proven to work and omit those principles which don't.
Originally Posted by Drummie123 If we were to create a list of moral principles that most Americans would agree to try to follow in order to live more peacefully and stop barreling down the Highway to Hell at 100 mph, we would first have to recognize the current rules in effect in our society are non-existent, ineffective or are harmful to our continued existence. So, because America was founded by Christians and we know that Christianity has flourished and prevailed or survived thousands of years with the same ...
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