Drummie123

Originally Posted by Drummie123

Originally Posted by AProudLefty

We already have churches all over the USA.

And yet here we are on the highway to hell.

We need to create a set of guidelines that most all of us can embrace.

We will not replace religions, we would offer something different. A set of guidelines that everyone can agree on and embrace.

We will agree on adopting ideas which have been proven to work and omit those principles which don't.

Originally Posted by Drummie123

If we were to create a list of moral principles that most Americans would agree to try to follow in order to live more peacefully and stop barreling down the Highway to Hell at 100 mph, we would first have to recognize the current rules in effect in our society are non-existent, ineffective or are harmful to our continued existence.

So, because America was founded by Christians and we know that Christianity has flourished and prevailed or survived thousands of years with the same

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Originally Posted by Drummie123

Originally Posted by AProudLefty

Judaism doesn't recognize Jesus as the Messiah.

That's unimportant in the context of saving America from plunging into the abyss.

We are able to all mostly agree that bashing Gays is bad and that lynching Blacks is bad.

That may be in accord with or in opposition to some religion's belief system, I don't know. But we can all adopt the principle of NOT bashing Gays or lynching Blacks without our all being expected or required to join that religion or adopt

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Originally Posted by Drummie123

Originally Posted by Phantasmal

Sorry, I don’t want our laws or anything else based on the morals of the Bible. Yahweh killed young children for mocking a bald man, approved of dashing children’s heads upon the rocks, ordered genocide of the Caaninites and made a man king who murdered his commanding officer so he could fornicate with his wife.

We shouldn't throw out the baby with the bathwater.

We should use what obviously works and disregard what doesn't in order to adopt a set of values which will

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Originally Posted by Drummie123

Originally Posted by AProudLefty

So that leaves the Muslims and Jews out?

Judeo-Christian principles don't oppose Christian principles.