MEAT EATING CAUSES WARS​

[bhaktajan]

Meat eating causes wars, illness, un-controllable lust, draught ---but this knowledge is above the head and shoulders of western civilisation's grand-parentage.

The karmic-payback for enmass meat eating is documented generation after generation ---just analyse the last two centuries by counting and comparing pound-for-pound the mutual losses ---cadaver-to-cadaver.

Such societies will incur enemies that may or may not seem befitting the "Good-guys" side.

Vandal vs Romans perennially.

In regards to "be like your father in Heaven" ---do you suppose that "fox-hunting" & factory farming & gentlemen-Farmers all occur in heaven?

How does one Logically compute via,
"By each according to his works",
the cosmic "Price" accured to one-self [or to a mass of patrons],
the "cost" of a beast's carcass for thanksgiving?

How long does it take to tally-up mass karmic pay-back?


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Mis-translated Bible terms infavor of meat eating?

As a long-standing member of the Hare Krishna Movement, I have learnt by some of my Hindu Vaishnav scholars that certain Bible terms are mis-translated:

Indeed, My ulterior motive is to get nations to turn swords to Plowshares ---this is done by ultimately having a "Change of Heart" as to the reality of fostering Flesh eating [meat in German is 'Fleisch']. Flesh eating begets violence and non-compassion and the illogic fantasy of obtaining peace in an enviroment of butcher-based society.

Vegetarianism as a sublime means of eating, is borne of ordhodox yoga disiplines ---therefore the higher goal of "a-himsa" (No-violence) ergo, "shanti" (peace) can be achieved.

Please review the Greek & hebrew terms, and kindly, verify or deny their veracity:

I'd like to cut and paste the whole Bible text, but for here are the Chapter/Verse of mention of NONE-FLESH EATING:

Old Testiment RE-CAP:

gen 1:29 [vs. Gen 9:3 ~immediately after recovery from the flood].

gen 9:4-5

num 11:33

Isaiah 1:11,15

Isaiah 66.3

Leviticus 3:17


Regarding, "Thou shall not Kill" ---reference:

The hebrew words are: 'Lo tirtzach' ---according to Dr Reuben Alcalay's 'Complete Hebrew/English Dictionary', 'tirtzach' refers to any kind of killing.

Christ was vegetarian ---there are 19 Gospel referneces to 'meat' all have been mis-translated from the original Greek Bible text:


Greek (3 of references) - English meaning:
Broma (4) - 'food' Romans 14:15, 20-21; I Corinthians 8:8, 10:3
Brosis (4) - 'the act of eating' Romans 14:17
Brosimos (1) - 'that which may be eaten'
Phago (3) - 'to eat' Luke 8:55
Prosphagon (1) - 'anything to eat'
Trophe (6) - 'nourishment' John 4:8, Acts 9:19, Acts 27:33-36
and,
Trapesa (?) - 'table' "...They set a table before him ..." Acts 16:34

Thus, John 21:5 "Have ye any meat" ---is incorrect. it should have been translated:
"Have ye 'anything to eat'"

Regarding, "FISH" ---reference: The secret & mystical symbol/Password for "Christian" in Roman Prosecution Times, derived from the Greek word for fish, ICHTHUS ---forming the acronym: Iesous Christos Theou Uios Soter (Jesus Christ Son of God Saviour)

New Testiment RE-CAP:

Matt 3:4 ~(the word 'locusts' used here means Locust beans, aka, carob, aka, St John's bread)
Luke 8:55 ~the word used here is 'phago' (to eat).
Isaiah 7:14,15 ~prophets predict Jesus's diet: "... Butter & Honey shall he eat ..."
Luke 24:41-43 ~Note the words used, Jesus was offered two things 'Fish and a honeycomb' "... and he took it . . ." indicates that he choose one of the two judging from Isaiah 7:15 [the word used here is 'brosimos' (eatable)].

See the Offence for fleash eating:

Greek word for FLESH is: 'kreas'
I Corinthians 8:13

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Can someone be brave enough to address these words ---for it is the next portal to world peace.

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a learned person sees all living entities equally panditah sama-darsinah because he sees the same soul within the different varieties of bodies.

'We want brotherhood, but what does it mean to be brothers? It means we have the same father.' Only when we recognize God as the supreme father can we have real brotherhood.

Knowing God to be the supreme father, we can understand that if we deal with God's other children nicely, God will be pleased. But if we try to exploit and commit violence upon one another, how will the supreme father be pleased? And if God is not pleased, how can we expect peace and prosperity in the world?

"Animals are also children of God, although they have less developed intelligence. They resemble human children, who also do not have developed intelligence, or developed speech. Nor can they defend themselves.

But in a family the strong are meant to protect the weak. For a stronger older brother to torture or massacre a baby is a terrible crime. How upset and angry the father would be!

So animals should be treated like our younger brothers or sisters, to be protected, not exploited or slaughtered so we can eat their flesh.

[bhaktajan]

Alright, let us start with this:
Paulie [from the Movie "Wise Guys"] warned Ray Liota [the actor] "You can't be using the stuff ---and selling it too".

The Drug dealer is always advised not to abuse the drugs he pushing.

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You see, it is all about the 'karma'.
Specifically, 'stupid, innane (karmic-) payback'.

A samurai walked a vails thickness away from death . . .
A samurai loathes to think that death could catch him by surprise . . .
A samurai avoids the old threat of "A fly flew into my eye just when I could have parried the assailant's death blow".

A samurai avoids initiating all forms of future bad karma ---especially mundane, vapid karma funk ilks.

Karma is a brewing pot of Dante's possibilities . . . with plenty of time to experiment with young souls.

[bhaktajan]

I am the adherent of cow-protection. The cow [and her husband] are the embodiment of mother earth's Homocentric mercy.

We humans think we aint biological bi-peds . . . but we think we are above beasts . . . but we think Man cannot aspire to immortality . . . but we can kill, gut, skin and roast quadra-peds to celebrate any given holiday moment . . . but we do nothing much else any more sublime than be pronounce poetic rhymes.

Took away the milk so the the 'Farmer' can successfully pen the Calves in dark isolated cages along side autofeeders.

Eat the calves' mother [and fathers] and sell the Gourmet Quality Veal meat ---for it's reknowned taste.

As the sage of greed said, "There's one born everyday".

[bhaktajan]

If life is great for at least ONE citisen of our world today ---it's due to their individual, indivisable personal "good-karma" ---the rest of the masses are subsistence workers.

Karma reminder: Karma re-actions are temporary and fleeting
---but exceedingly fine.

"Good Karma is a terrible thing to waste"

[bhaktajan]

Matt 15

10 Summoning the crowd, He told them, “Listen and understand: 11 It’s not what goes into the mouth that defiles a man, but what comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man.”
12 Then the disciples came up and told Him, “Do You know that the Pharisees took offense when they heard this statement?”
13 He replied, “Every plant that My heavenly Father didn’t plant will be uprooted. 14 Leave them alone! They are blind guides. And if the blind guide the blind, both will fall into a pit.”
15 Then Peter replied to Him, “Explain this parable to us.”
16 “Are even you still lacking in understanding?” He asked. 17 “Don’t you realize that whatever goes into the mouth passes into the stomach and is eliminated? 18 But what comes out of the mouth comes from the heart, and this defiles a man. 19 For from the heart come evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, sexual immoralities, thefts, false testimonies, blasphemies. 20 These are the things that defile a man, but eating with unwashed hands does not defile a man.”​

But what comes out of the mouth comes from the heart, and this defiles a man.

From the heart come evil thoughts, murders, adulteries,
sexual immoralities, thefts, false testimonies, blasphemies. ...

I don't read this as a explaination of the rules of kosher-ism NOR about vegetarian-ism!

I do not see this NT verse as addressing vegetarianism--- it speaks of atrocities that issue forth via Commands of Leaders to the 'peons' [latin word for commoner/worker].

I truly see that my topic of Meat Eating and Butchery is not neccessarily addressed in these NT verses ---maybe! It's a metaphor/parable about the exclusive Caste rules of the Pharisees versus un-orthodox Judism.

[bhaktajan]

Buddha’s Noble truth proclaimed to all sentient beings ---that all undertakings, and life itself is a suffering process ---which gives rise to the other supplementary Noble Truth, “Ahimsa” ---which guides all Humans to preform ‘actions’ that “Avoid bad Karma” ---lest one’s future leads to ‘re-birth’ [especially lower stratum of births in all sorts of sentient bodies] ---which again gives rise to repeating all the BASIC LESSONS of DHARMA.

If Hitler was a vegetarian ---that would be a very savvy [yet uncanny to me] way of avoiding minor token karma whilst ‘getting away with Murder’.

Great rogues would know to avoid the small stuff ---which indeed, requires attention to details.

Yet the Prisons around the world are occupied by 101% meat and leg and ears and guts and wings and feet eaters. IMO the choice muscles are too expensive, and sell to highest paid markets.

Finally, Buddha’s death due to [accidently] eating meat served to him un-knowingly ---testifies to how Karma is transferred via Bodily fluids ---and thus, the lesson is clear.

BTW, IMHO, I speculate that “goodness” can be a receptical for “Badness” [but not vise-versa] ---and, Badness is attracted to goodness in the way the old saying says:
“Nature they say hates a vaccum” ---thus IMO, sinfullness can be absorbed by Goodness . . . but then, many times the Sin obliterates the Good.

It is “Maintanace” that counts.

It is easier for a Good person to ‘go bad’ than it is for a bad person to ‘go good’.

[bhaktajan]

Karma is transferred via Bodily fluids.
Karma is transferred via Bodily fluids.
Karma is transferred via Bodily fluids.
Karma is transferred via Bodily fluids.

[bhaktajan]

without the Label of "Vegetarian" one earns the right to be a real life defacto "Meat Eater".

Ironically, the world "Meat" [me eat] is NOT an Onomatopoeia . . . yet Crunch & Punch & Slurp & (sort of) are Onomatopoeic.

Is the word "Stuff" a Onomatopoeia?

At least it is (still) illegal to "Murder" ---while OTOH,
"Killing, to eat a quadraped, or what have you, will suffice",
Especially when the marklet place will support and rear the 99%.

[bhaktajan]

I am of the opinion that there is a strange BACK LASH when CONFRONTED about the SUBJECT called "MEAT EATING".

I an't talking about the benifits of a Diet that "You have NO concern Nor thought out Opinion".

Either you work for the meat industry ---thus your meager livelyhood is dependent on hawking 'The MEEK' as foodstuffs.

Militant vegans? How else do you expect Social issues come to the forefront unless "Trust account Babies" have the free time to Protest aginst the Common labor classes?

Anyone that complains about "Militant vegans" DOES NOT Have a life ---but they do find the time to protect their interests.

MEAT EATING CAUSES WARS! is an issue of sublime reasoning.

One doesn't seek sublime thought from the Masses!
One hawks their ware to the masses!

MEAT EATING CAUSES WARS! is an ancient issue!

If you dismiss it ---you're involved with greater struggles already with no time to consider the nature of the Sublime.

If you want "Your Opinion to Win" ---good news "You have won".

I am the Underdog in this Thread.

I am the loser in this thread.

[bhaktajan]

BTW, any Woman who cares to keep her feminine beauty MUST avoid cadaver byproducts.

Any Parent [or school Teacher] who cares to keep their teens form being sex-maniacs MUST avoid cadaver byproducts.

Any Warden who cares to keep their inmates calm MUST avoid cadaver byproducts.

Any Governer who cares to avoid Mass-Bad Karma MUST avoid cadaver byproducts.

[bhaktajan]

This Topic is something most folks HAVE NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT [except as a fad].

Ironically, your doctors and business places are sustained daily by avoiding Bad Karma.

I am directly & explicitly highlighting that So-called SANE people of the world would disagree with me!
And thus, here I AM TALKING ABOUT how the world is insane and UN-AWARE of this factor that brings War upon the people.

It is NOT my OPINION nor MY Speculation.

It is a sublime truth of life that I am referring to.

I learnt it from the Sages.

Does anyone here able to recognise a sage?

MEAT EATING CAUSES WARS ---is a fact of life that is taught by the sages.

War is Not a past time of Sages.

[bhaktajan]

But I am NOT a PETA like activist.

I have stated above the REAL REASONS for Shunning Meat Eating.

The issue at hand is NOT about anything social conventions and habits nor even the environment nor ethics nor even health.

It's about WORLD CLASS BAD KARMA FOR ALL.

The topic is about the metaphysics behind the curtain of MASS BAD KARMA.

Maybe I should have titled the Thread:

MASS BAD KARMA ---and everything about but was too clueless to ask.

I thought everyone was clueless about this fact of socio-metaphysics.

But there seems to be a sub-conscious acknowledgement of an endemic problem that apparently is difficult to admit to.

This is not a Pet project of mine. It is an alarm bell of a topic.

Maybe it just that I am preaching to the blase world.

It is about the indifference.

It is Not about my prancing about with a bone to pick ---I am Yelling FIRE!!!

[bhaktajan]

Should I have said?:

MEAT EATING CAUSES SOCIETAL BAD-KARMA [up until the point of worst senario status]

Should I have said?:

MEAT EATING IS THE PRE-REQUISITE FOR SOCIETAL BAD-KARMA.

[bhaktajan]

"Meat Eating" makes people "Horney" aka "Randy" aka "sexually agitated".

[bhaktajan]

Attention Roman Catholic Priests and Nuns and Bishops and Cardinals and Monsignors and lay folk ---Stop eating Meat ---Meat eaters CANNOT keep Constant!

Celebates CANNOT stay Celebate if they eat meat(s).

"I told you Not to feed the boy meat; but Porridge"
---from the novel, 'Oliver Twist'.

[bhaktajan]

Meat-eating is "Tamasic" [tama guna related] ---thus, anti-Brahmacarya.

Brahmacarya = Celibate Student.

All things related to the Protocols of Brahmacarya-ism will support vegetarian-ism.

BTW, abstaining from Garlic, onions, vinegar help too.

Let me repeat the "Standard of Measurement":
MEAT EATERS CANNOT KEEP CELIBATE.

OTOH, A vegetarian is seduced by ALL the Other Allurements into the bargain,

[bhaktajan]

"Karma is Transmitted by Bodily Fluids".
This is not simply an effort at wit ---it is a Truth and it also is the Plain Logic of how 'Karma' is transmitted via consumption.

Do You Agree: "Karma is Transmitted by Bodily Fluids"?

Being an 'accessory to a crime' is usually pointed out by the prosecuting team ---it is usually ignored by the perpetrators themselves.

Gita 2.62-63:
"While contemplating the objects of the senses, a person develops attachment for them, and from such attachment lust develops, and from lust anger arises.

From anger, complete delusion arises, and from delusion bewilderment of memory. When memory is bewildered, intelligence is lost, and when intelligence is lost one falls down again into the material pool."

In addition to 'Instant' karmic reactions to meat eating ---there are long term waits before karmic strikes. It's the desires that get inflamed/induced and raises hopes/desires higher. It's the strenuousness fear and sudden shock that the butchered animal endured that is earned in return for consuming their bodily fluids and skin and paws etc.

Karma will get its conconminant Pound of Flesh Back ---we aren't above and more precious a creation than a fowl ---a creature that WE cannot replicate in a lab. We are in a dog-eat-dog world.

Where do you think the evidence [for my stance] is to be found?

Will you tell me after the debt is balanced?

It's NOT the vegetarians with bad luck that Rule You and me and tell us how much the Toll is raising nor how school and rent costs will rise again and agin and again until you dead and gone.

It's NOT the vegetarians that are crooked and dictatorial and selling Viagra during the evening Simpson Cartoon.

Gita 7.3:
Out of many thousands among men, one may endeavor for perfection, and of those who have achieved perfection, hardly one knows Me in truth.

[bhaktajan]

Karma is impersonal and cold and "grinds exceedingly fine".

Karma is meant for humans to learn by the Stick

simultaneously-Ironically,

Karma applies its rules impersonally.

And doublely-Ironically, everyone keeps coming back for more.

I am NOT remotely promoting an idea that Meat eating & War have a "Direct Cause & Effect" ---why would you bother considering that?

Does Car manufacturing result in Drunk Driving? They are distinct entities.

I am absolutely referring to the paradyms of society network of Karma that HAS ALREADY yield Super-Mega-Mass-Wars ... but it starts in the details ... the lust and the un-mitigating meglomania that comes from meat eating is the common denoumenator amongst the statistical number of perpetrators.

What a shame & sham to mention Hitler as a vegetarian [which I have learn is not true] ---because has no relevance . . .

evidently (or due to self-denial inre this subject) that the Royal Dynasty of Adam and Eve sufferred an fraticide assasination by the First princes of the Old Testiment ---over a Flesh Ritual Sacrifice:

Cain killed, nay, "Murdered" is brother ... cain did this a] against the Golden Rule & b] as per the injunctions of the Gita words inre "Lust & un-satiated Desires beget rage"

[bhaktajan]

Okay, let's try out the vista from the contrary POV:

Fiddling Uncle Ernie the CEO of Erections International says,

"Eat a different type of Meats every day of your life"
"Feed a different type of Meats to young girls along with alcohol"
"Sing songs with vague and/or explicit sexual references"
"Advertise & reinforce vice with sexual allurements"
"never call societal commoners Trash, but rather engage them in the underworld"
"There is always greener pastures after a prison stay"
"just have an abortion"
"Watch and absorb the principles enjoined in the Sensational Boop-tube sages of "Three and a half Men" and seek your piece of the pie"
"You only live once so... &^%$# whenever & where ever &^%$ ...you can"

but ironically, the advice of Fagen the master pickpocket is timeless like:

"But what ever you do DO NOT FORSAKE PAYING YOUR TAXES"

[bhaktajan]

Don't be a Cosmic Hobo.
Make use of your chance at Good-Karma Accruement now,
bhaktajan

[bhaktajan]

Bodily fluids transmit Karma"

similarly, or said in a more rudimentary way:

"Karma is transmitted by ingesting an outside entity"

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The direct Cause & Effect phenomenon is NOT instant-gratification.

The insidious nature that Karmic payback takes form as, requires gestation periods to fructify.

The fermentation process [of karmic payback] allows the web-like network of interactions to flux until they swell ---just like baking bread.

[bhaktajan]

"Whoever causes offenseless living beings to suffer must fear me anywhere and everywhere in the world.
By curbing dishonest miscreants, one automatically benefits the offenseless." SB 1.17.14

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To Eat meat is to be Sadistic.

Sadistic personality disorder, an obsolete term proposed for individuals who derive pleasure from the suffering of others
Antisocial personality disorder, a modern diagnosis
Sexual sadism disorder, a medical/psychological condition for sexual arousal from inflicting pain/humiliation on unwilling, non-consenting victims
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sadism

[countryboy]

https://youtu.be/2iRIiggJ0Eo

[Jade Dragon]

I'm a hardcore meat eater, but am more gentle than most. Meat eating causes wars? That idea is just bellowing opinions as usual, with obnoxious bullshit. Reasons that actually start war. 1. Religion 2. Invasive conquest (basically greed) 3. Cult like uprisings, and manipulation. 4. Ethnic differences, and fears. I help animals when many wouldn't. I've helped a dragonfly caught by a wave when it flew too low, to shore. I've helped a trapped mouse get free, and even tried to rehabilitate a bird that doggie got a hold of. Get the picture? Now get over your blasphemous, and ignorant scapegoating self. It's disgusting, and not worthy of a pittance of respect.

[bhaktajan]

I'm a hardcore meat eater, but am more gentle than most. Meat eating causes wars? That idea is just bellowing opinions as usual, with obnoxious bullshit. Reasons that actually start war. 1. Religion 2. Invasive conquest (basically greed) 3. Cult like uprisings, and manipulation. 4. Ethnic differences, and fears. I help animals when many wouldn't. I've helped a dragonfly caught by a wave when it flew too low, to shore. I've helped a trapped mouse get free, and even tried to rehabilitate a bird that doggie got a hold of. Get the picture? Now get over your blasphemous, and ignorant scapegoating self. It's disgusting, and not worthy of a pittance of respect.

So YOU gonna stand on a soap box and tell me you are the EXPERT here?

Hardcore bellowing obnoxious shit blasphemous ignorant disgusting EGO.

Hitler's dog lived happily afterwards too.

There is Low-class Sadism, and,
There is High-class Sadism too.

I only speak because I can. I explained it from many vantage points and a self-aggrandizing Ego would anoint the meek as their own minions as Expendables.

[iewitness]

I have a similar theory. does anyone care ? eating meat reminds us that there is a beast seeking to devour. it is the difference between being the prey or the predator. it is a cursed earth thing. it is almost over. it is good. it's good. let me try again: sin entered the world and death. I think that man was intended to be vegan. there is coming a time when this kill or be killed age will end. until then we are in conflict and when we become like little harmless furry bunnie people, we will be devoured. eating meat is inherent to survival in this current cursed age. this is the age to come: http://biblehub.com/kjv/isaiah/11.htm. the "root of Jesse" is Yeshua Ha Meshiach, AKA The Lord Jesus Christ. when he assumes rightful dominion over creation, after destroying every world order of man; there will be peace and restoration of all things. I will be with The Lord when he returns to Earth to smite the Earth with the rod of his mouth. The Lord has promised that I will rule and reign with Him for one thousand years; not according t my goodness or self righteous, but by grace through faith generating faithfulness; because I believe Him. will you be with Him or will you be destroyed by Him ?

[USFREEDOM911]

Meat eating causes wars, illness, un-controllable lust, draught ---but this knowledge is above the head and shoulders of western civilisation's grand-parentage.

The karmic-payback for enmass meat eating is documented generation after generation ---just analyse the last two centuries by counting and comparing pound-for-pound the mutual losses ---cadaver-to-cadaver.

Such societies will incur enemies that may or may not seem befitting the "Good-guys" side.

Vandal vs Romans perennially.

In regards to "be like your father in Heaven" ---do you suppose that "fox-hunting" & factory farming & gentlemen-Farmers all occur in heaven?

How does one Logically compute via,
"By each according to his works",
the cosmic "Price" accured to one-self [or to a mass of patrons],
the "cost" of a beast's carcass for thanksgiving?

How long does it take to tally-up mass karmic pay-back?


HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HH
Mis-translated Bible terms infavor of meat eating?

As a long-standing member of the Hare Krishna Movement, I have learnt by some of my Hindu Vaishnav scholars that certain Bible terms are mis-translated:

Indeed, My ulterior motive is to get nations to turn swords to Plowshares ---this is done by ultimately having a "Change of Heart" as to the reality of fostering Flesh eating [meat in German is 'Fleisch']. Flesh eating begets violence and non-compassion and the illogic fantasy of obtaining peace in an enviroment of butcher-based society.

Vegetarianism as a sublime means of eating, is borne of ordhodox yoga disiplines ---therefore the higher goal of "a-himsa" (No-violence) ergo, "shanti" (peace) can be achieved.

Please review the Greek & hebrew terms, and kindly, verify or deny their veracity:

I'd like to cut and paste the whole Bible text, but for here are the Chapter/Verse of mention of NONE-FLESH EATING:

Old Testiment RE-CAP:

gen 1:29 [vs. Gen 9:3 ~immediately after recovery from the flood].

gen 9:4-5

num 11:33

Isaiah 1:11,15

Isaiah 66.3

Leviticus 3:17


Regarding, "Thou shall not Kill" ---reference:

The hebrew words are: 'Lo tirtzach' ---according to Dr Reuben Alcalay's 'Complete Hebrew/English Dictionary', 'tirtzach' refers to any kind of killing.

Christ was vegetarian ---there are 19 Gospel referneces to 'meat' all have been mis-translated from the original Greek Bible text:


Greek (3 of references) - English meaning:
Broma (4) - 'food' Romans 14:15, 20-21; I Corinthians 8:8, 10:3
Brosis (4) - 'the act of eating' Romans 14:17
Brosimos (1) - 'that which may be eaten'
Phago (3) - 'to eat' Luke 8:55
Prosphagon (1) - 'anything to eat'
Trophe (6) - 'nourishment' John 4:8, Acts 9:19, Acts 27:33-36
and,
Trapesa (?) - 'table' "...They set a table before him ..." Acts 16:34

Thus, John 21:5 "Have ye any meat" ---is incorrect. it should have been translated:
"Have ye 'anything to eat'"

Regarding, "FISH" ---reference: The secret & mystical symbol/Password for "Christian" in Roman Prosecution Times, derived from the Greek word for fish, ICHTHUS ---forming the acronym: Iesous Christos Theou Uios Soter (Jesus Christ Son of God Saviour)

New Testiment RE-CAP:

Matt 3:4 ~(the word 'locusts' used here means Locust beans, aka, carob, aka, St John's bread)
Luke 8:55 ~the word used here is 'phago' (to eat).
Isaiah 7:14,15 ~prophets predict Jesus's diet: "... Butter & Honey shall he eat ..."
Luke 24:41-43 ~Note the words used, Jesus was offered two things 'Fish and a honeycomb' "... and he took it . . ." indicates that he choose one of the two judging from Isaiah 7:15 [the word used here is 'brosimos' (eatable)].

See the Offence for fleash eating:

Greek word for FLESH is: 'kreas'
I Corinthians 8:13

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Can someone be brave enough to address these words ---for it is the next portal to world peace.

HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HH

a learned person sees all living entities equally panditah sama-darsinah because he sees the same soul within the different varieties of bodies.

'We want brotherhood, but what does it mean to be brothers? It means we have the same father.' Only when we recognize God as the supreme father can we have real brotherhood.

Knowing God to be the supreme father, we can understand that if we deal with God's other children nicely, God will be pleased. But if we try to exploit and commit violence upon one another, how will the supreme father be pleased? And if God is not pleased, how can we expect peace and prosperity in the world?

"Animals are also children of God, although they have less developed intelligence. They resemble human children, who also do not have developed intelligence, or developed speech. Nor can they defend themselves.

But in a family the strong are meant to protect the weak. For a stronger older brother to torture or massacre a baby is a terrible crime. How upset and angry the father would be!

So animals should be treated like our younger brothers or sisters, to be protected, not exploited or slaughtered so we can eat their flesh.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/hqB_TTCE-3U/hqdefault.jpg

[USFREEDOM911]

Alright, let us start with this:
Paulie [from the Movie "Wise Guys"] warned Ray Liota [the actor] "You can't be using the stuff ---and selling it too".

The Drug dealer is always advised not to abuse the drugs he pushing.

**********************************
You see, it is all about the 'karma'.
Specifically, 'stupid, innane (karmic-) payback'.

A samurai walked a vails thickness away from death . . .
A samurai loathes to think that death could catch him by surprise . . .
A samurai avoids the old threat of "A fly flew into my eye just when I could have parried the assailant's death blow".

A samurai avoids initiating all forms of future bad karma ---especially mundane, vapid karma funk ilks.

Karma is a brewing pot of Dante's possibilities . . . with plenty of time to experiment with young souls.

http://www.heresparkslope.com/storage/BlueRibbonSteak.png

[USFREEDOM911]

I am the adherent of cow-protection. The cow [and her husband] are the embodiment of mother earth's Homocentric mercy.

We humans think we aint biological bi-peds . . . but we think we are above beasts . . . but we think Man cannot aspire to immortality . . . but we can kill, gut, skin and roast quadra-peds to celebrate any given holiday moment . . . but we do nothing much else any more sublime than be pronounce poetic rhymes.

Took away the milk so the the 'Farmer' can successfully pen the Calves in dark isolated cages along side autofeeders.

Eat the calves' mother [and fathers] and sell the Gourmet Quality Veal meat ---for it's reknowned taste.

As the sage of greed said, "There's one born everyday".

https://cannulismeats.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Whole-Pig-Ro.jpg

[USFREEDOM911]

If life is great for at least ONE citisen of our world today ---it's due to their individual, indivisable personal "good-karma" ---the rest of the masses are subsistence workers.

Karma reminder: Karma re-actions are temporary and fleeting
---but exceedingly fine.

"Good Karma is a terrible thing to waste"

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_r1B365GxNY/maxresdefault.jpg

[USFREEDOM911]

Matt 15

10 Summoning the crowd, He told them, “Listen and understand: 11 It’s not what goes into the mouth that defiles a man, but what comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man.”
12 Then the disciples came up and told Him, “Do You know that the Pharisees took offense when they heard this statement?”
13 He replied, “Every plant that My heavenly Father didn’t plant will be uprooted. 14 Leave them alone! They are blind guides. And if the blind guide the blind, both will fall into a pit.”
15 Then Peter replied to Him, “Explain this parable to us.”
16 “Are even you still lacking in understanding?” He asked. 17 “Don’t you realize that whatever goes into the mouth passes into the stomach and is eliminated? 18 But what comes out of the mouth comes from the heart, and this defiles a man. 19 For from the heart come evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, sexual immoralities, thefts, false testimonies, blasphemies. 20 These are the things that defile a man, but eating with unwashed hands does not defile a man.”​

But what comes out of the mouth comes from the heart, and this defiles a man.

From the heart come evil thoughts, murders, adulteries,
sexual immoralities, thefts, false testimonies, blasphemies. ...

I don't read this as a explaination of the rules of kosher-ism NOR about vegetarian-ism!

I do not see this NT verse as addressing vegetarianism--- it speaks of atrocities that issue forth via Commands of Leaders to the 'peons' [latin word for commoner/worker].

I truly see that my topic of Meat Eating and Butchery is not neccessarily addressed in these NT verses ---maybe! It's a metaphor/parable about the exclusive Caste rules of the Pharisees versus un-orthodox Judism.

https://s.yimg.com/ea/img/-/151221/tuffings_1b7e6gs-1b7e6hd.jpg

[USFREEDOM911]

Buddha’s Noble truth proclaimed to all sentient beings ---that all undertakings, and life itself is a suffering process ---which gives rise to the other supplementary Noble Truth, “Ahimsa” ---which guides all Humans to preform ‘actions’ that “Avoid bad Karma” ---lest one’s future leads to ‘re-birth’ [especially lower stratum of births in all sorts of sentient bodies] ---which again gives rise to repeating all the BASIC LESSONS of DHARMA.

If Hitler was a vegetarian ---that would be a very savvy [yet uncanny to me] way of avoiding minor token karma whilst ‘getting away with Murder’.

Great rogues would know to avoid the small stuff ---which indeed, requires attention to details.

Yet the Prisons around the world are occupied by 101% meat and leg and ears and guts and wings and feet eaters. IMO the choice muscles are too expensive, and sell to highest paid markets.

Finally, Buddha’s death due to [accidently] eating meat served to him un-knowingly ---testifies to how Karma is transferred via Bodily fluids ---and thus, the lesson is clear.

BTW, IMHO, I speculate that “goodness” can be a receptical for “Badness” [but not vise-versa] ---and, Badness is attracted to goodness in the way the old saying says:
“Nature they say hates a vaccum” ---thus IMO, sinfullness can be absorbed by Goodness . . . but then, many times the Sin obliterates the Good.

It is “Maintanace” that counts.

It is easier for a Good person to ‘go bad’ than it is for a bad person to ‘go good’.

https://thefoodsnobuk.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/image143.jpg

[USFREEDOM911]

Karma is transferred via Bodily fluids.
Karma is transferred via Bodily fluids.
Karma is transferred via Bodily fluids.
Karma is transferred via Bodily fluids.

https://www.seriouseats.com/images/2014/12/20131218-leg-of-lamb-food-lab-5.jpg

[USFREEDOM911]

without the Label of "Vegetarian" one earns the right to be a real life defacto "Meat Eater".

Ironically, the world "Meat" [me eat] is NOT an Onomatopoeia . . . yet Crunch & Punch & Slurp & (sort of) are Onomatopoeic.

Is the word "Stuff" a Onomatopoeia?

At least it is (still) illegal to "Murder" ---while OTOH,
"Killing, to eat a quadraped, or what have you, will suffice",
Especially when the marklet place will support and rear the 99%.

http://everydaydishes.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/santa-fe-baked-chicken-everydaydishes_com-H.jpg

[USFREEDOM911]

I am of the opinion that there is a strange BACK LASH when CONFRONTED about the SUBJECT called "MEAT EATING".

I an't talking about the benifits of a Diet that "You have NO concern Nor thought out Opinion".

Either you work for the meat industry ---thus your meager livelyhood is dependent on hawking 'The MEEK' as foodstuffs.

Militant vegans? How else do you expect Social issues come to the forefront unless "Trust account Babies" have the free time to Protest aginst the Common labor classes?

Anyone that complains about "Militant vegans" DOES NOT Have a life ---but they do find the time to protect their interests.

MEAT EATING CAUSES WARS! is an issue of sublime reasoning.

One doesn't seek sublime thought from the Masses!
One hawks their ware to the masses!

MEAT EATING CAUSES WARS! is an ancient issue!

If you dismiss it ---you're involved with greater struggles already with no time to consider the nature of the Sublime.

If you want "Your Opinion to Win" ---good news "You have won".

I am the Underdog in this Thread.

I am the loser in this thread.

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[USFREEDOM911]

BTW, any Woman who cares to keep her feminine beauty MUST avoid cadaver byproducts.

Any Parent [or school Teacher] who cares to keep their teens form being sex-maniacs MUST avoid cadaver byproducts.

Any Warden who cares to keep their inmates calm MUST avoid cadaver byproducts.

Any Governer who cares to avoid Mass-Bad Karma MUST avoid cadaver byproducts.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/mkSXTtsU8xI/maxresdefault.jpg

[USFREEDOM911]

This Topic is something most folks HAVE NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT [except as a fad].

Ironically, your doctors and business places are sustained daily by avoiding Bad Karma.

I am directly & explicitly highlighting that So-called SANE people of the world would disagree with me!
And thus, here I AM TALKING ABOUT how the world is insane and UN-AWARE of this factor that brings War upon the people.

It is NOT my OPINION nor MY Speculation.

It is a sublime truth of life that I am referring to.

I learnt it from the Sages.

Does anyone here able to recognise a sage?

MEAT EATING CAUSES WARS ---is a fact of life that is taught by the sages.

War is Not a past time of Sages.

http://huntingbackpackshq.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Hunting-wild-boar-759x500.jpg

[USFREEDOM911]

But I am NOT a PETA like activist.

I have stated above the REAL REASONS for Shunning Meat Eating.

The issue at hand is NOT about anything social conventions and habits nor even the environment nor ethics nor even health.

It's about WORLD CLASS BAD KARMA FOR ALL.

The topic is about the metaphysics behind the curtain of MASS BAD KARMA.

Maybe I should have titled the Thread:

MASS BAD KARMA ---and everything about but was too clueless to ask.

I thought everyone was clueless about this fact of socio-metaphysics.

But there seems to be a sub-conscious acknowledgement of an endemic problem that apparently is difficult to admit to.

This is not a Pet project of mine. It is an alarm bell of a topic.

Maybe it just that I am preaching to the blase world.

It is about the indifference.

It is Not about my prancing about with a bone to pick ---I am Yelling FIRE!!!

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[USFREEDOM911]

Should I have said?:

MEAT EATING CAUSES SOCIETAL BAD-KARMA [up until the point of worst senario status]

Should I have said?:

MEAT EATING IS THE PRE-REQUISITE FOR SOCIETAL BAD-KARMA.

https://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2018/1/916375_15150385779821_rId5.jpg

[USFREEDOM911]

"Meat Eating" makes people "Horney" aka "Randy" aka "sexually agitated".

http://www.simpleglutenfreekitchen.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Grilled-salmon-steaks-1024x768.png

[USFREEDOM911]

Attention Roman Catholic Priests and Nuns and Bishops and Cardinals and Monsignors and lay folk ---Stop eating Meat ---Meat eaters CANNOT keep Constant!

Celebates CANNOT stay Celebate if they eat meat(s).

"I told you Not to feed the boy meat; but Porridge"
---from the novel, 'Oliver Twist'.

http://www.demoslavueltaaldia.com/sites/default/files/4765748_0.jpg

[USFREEDOM911]

Meat-eating is "Tamasic" [tama guna related] ---thus, anti-Brahmacarya.

Brahmacarya = Celibate Student.

All things related to the Protocols of Brahmacarya-ism will support vegetarian-ism.

BTW, abstaining from Garlic, onions, vinegar help too.

Let me repeat the "Standard of Measurement":
MEAT EATERS CANNOT KEEP CELIBATE.

OTOH, A vegetarian is seduced by ALL the Other Allurements into the bargain,

https://img.aws.livestrongcdn.com/ls-article-image-673/ds-photo/getty/article/94/252/467863170.jpg

[USFREEDOM911]

"Karma is Transmitted by Bodily Fluids".
This is not simply an effort at wit ---it is a Truth and it also is the Plain Logic of how 'Karma' is transmitted via consumption.

Do You Agree: "Karma is Transmitted by Bodily Fluids"?

Being an 'accessory to a crime' is usually pointed out by the prosecuting team ---it is usually ignored by the perpetrators themselves.

Gita 2.62-63:
"While contemplating the objects of the senses, a person develops attachment for them, and from such attachment lust develops, and from lust anger arises.

From anger, complete delusion arises, and from delusion bewilderment of memory. When memory is bewildered, intelligence is lost, and when intelligence is lost one falls down again into the material pool."

In addition to 'Instant' karmic reactions to meat eating ---there are long term waits before karmic strikes. It's the desires that get inflamed/induced and raises hopes/desires higher. It's the strenuousness fear and sudden shock that the butchered animal endured that is earned in return for consuming their bodily fluids and skin and paws etc.

Karma will get its conconminant Pound of Flesh Back ---we aren't above and more precious a creation than a fowl ---a creature that WE cannot replicate in a lab. We are in a dog-eat-dog world.

Where do you think the evidence [for my stance] is to be found?

Will you tell me after the debt is balanced?

It's NOT the vegetarians with bad luck that Rule You and me and tell us how much the Toll is raising nor how school and rent costs will rise again and agin and again until you dead and gone.

It's NOT the vegetarians that are crooked and dictatorial and selling Viagra during the evening Simpson Cartoon.

Gita 7.3:
Out of many thousands among men, one may endeavor for perfection, and of those who have achieved perfection, hardly one knows Me in truth.

https://www.vnutritionandwellness.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/walnut-meat-tacos-4-800x531.jpg

[USFREEDOM911]

Karma is impersonal and cold and "grinds exceedingly fine".

Karma is meant for humans to learn by the Stick

simultaneously-Ironically,

Karma applies its rules impersonally.

And doublely-Ironically, everyone keeps coming back for more.

I am NOT remotely promoting an idea that Meat eating & War have a "Direct Cause & Effect" ---why would you bother considering that?

Does Car manufacturing result in Drunk Driving? They are distinct entities.

I am absolutely referring to the paradyms of society network of Karma that HAS ALREADY yield Super-Mega-Mass-Wars ... but it starts in the details ... the lust and the un-mitigating meglomania that comes from meat eating is the common denoumenator amongst the statistical number of perpetrators.

What a shame & sham to mention Hitler as a vegetarian [which I have learn is not true] ---because has no relevance . . .

evidently (or due to self-denial inre this subject) that the Royal Dynasty of Adam and Eve sufferred an fraticide assasination by the First princes of the Old Testiment ---over a Flesh Ritual Sacrifice:

Cain killed, nay, "Murdered" is brother ... cain did this a] against the Golden Rule & b] as per the injunctions of the Gita words inre "Lust & un-satiated Desires beget rage"

https://i0.wp.com/buckeyelakewinery.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/smittysfood2.jpg

[USFREEDOM911]

Okay, let's try out the vista from the contrary POV:

Fiddling Uncle Ernie the CEO of Erections International says,

"Eat a different type of Meats every day of your life"
"Feed a different type of Meats to young girls along with alcohol"
"Sing songs with vague and/or explicit sexual references"
"Advertise & reinforce vice with sexual allurements"
"never call societal commoners Trash, but rather engage them in the underworld"
"There is always greener pastures after a prison stay"
"just have an abortion"
"Watch and absorb the principles enjoined in the Sensational Boop-tube sages of "Three and a half Men" and seek your piece of the pie"
"You only live once so... &^%$# whenever & where ever &^%$ ...you can"

but ironically, the advice of Fagen the master pickpocket is timeless like:

"But what ever you do DO NOT FORSAKE PAYING YOUR TAXES"

http://foodtechinfo.com/files/2016/01/Meat_Smoke-1.jpg

[USFREEDOM911]

Don't be a Cosmic Hobo.
Make use of your chance at Good-Karma Accruement now,
bhaktajan

http://www.kitchenproject.com/german/Bratwurst/images/ThuringaBratwurst.jpg

[USFREEDOM911]

Bodily fluids transmit Karma"

similarly, or said in a more rudimentary way:

"Karma is transmitted by ingesting an outside entity"

-----------------------------------------------

The direct Cause & Effect phenomenon is NOT instant-gratification.

The insidious nature that Karmic payback takes form as, requires gestation periods to fructify.

The fermentation process [of karmic payback] allows the web-like network of interactions to flux until they swell ---just like baking bread.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/9f/58/96/9f5896a7e7fe39277b6c7dd70c472448.jpg

[Leonthecat]

https://i.redd.it/d9bbtvi6c8ax.jpg

[USFREEDOM911]

"Whoever causes offenseless living beings to suffer must fear me anywhere and everywhere in the world.
By curbing dishonest miscreants, one automatically benefits the offenseless." SB 1.17.14

HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

To Eat meat is to be Sadistic.

Sadistic personality disorder, an obsolete term proposed for individuals who derive pleasure from the suffering of others
Antisocial personality disorder, a modern diagnosis
Sexual sadism disorder, a medical/psychological condition for sexual arousal from inflicting pain/humiliation on unwilling, non-consenting victims
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sadism

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[USFREEDOM911]

So YOU gonna stand on a soap box and tell me you are the EXPERT here?

Hardcore bellowing obnoxious shit blasphemous ignorant disgusting EGO.

Hitler's dog lived happily afterwards too.

There is Low-class Sadism, and,
There is High-class Sadism too.

I only speak because I can. I explained it from many vantage points and a self-aggrandizing Ego would anoint the meek as their own minions as Expendables.

https://images-gmi-pmc.edge-generalmills.com/c8aed006-0101-4c7c-8a7f-643fbdcdc7c9.jpg

[USFREEDOM911]

https://i.redd.it/d9bbtvi6c8ax.jpg

That was funny. :good4u:

[Leonthecat]

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[bhaktajan]

You are correct sir.

It is what our grandchildren will call it on the late news:
Food porn is a glamourized visual presentation of cooking or eating in advertisements, infomercials, blogs[1] cooking shows or other visual media.
Food porn often takes the form of food photography with styling that presents food provocatively, in a similar way to glamour photography or pornographic photography.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_porn

{Funny touch with the anus portal and the grilled stuffed offal intestines}


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[bhaktajan]

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/5b/5b62753c640a00aab851e2490a8a39694428e0e5861af0c4e2 a32f3baa763d70.jpg

The irony!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jell-O Pudding Pops ... the original old time Jell-O was/is made of gelatin.

Jell-O is a sweetened gelatin product made by boiling the bones and hides of animals. ... The collagen in gelatin does come from boiling the bones and hides of animals processed for their meat (usually cows and pigs). But hooves consist of a different protein, keratin, which can't produce gelatin.

So a spokesman is an accessory to the act...the irony is poor Bill lost a son while hawking gelatin mongers. Sad to have witnessed other's sufferings. Unless they're paid and insured professionals.

Are Bull fighters covered by National Health Services?

[bhaktajan]

Best visage:
http://78.media.tumblr.com/4ae705d45ec1da0e3f484e4715af306e/tumblr_mg55kgFnrF1s2yttzo1_1280.jpg

[Leonthecat]

You are correct sir.

It is what our grandchildren will call it on the late news:
Food porn is a glamourized visual presentation of cooking or eating in advertisements, infomercials, blogs[1] cooking shows or other visual media.
Food porn often takes the form of food photography with styling that presents food provocatively, in a similar way to glamour photography or pornographic photography.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_porn

{Funny touch with the anus portal and the grilled stuffed offal intestines}


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Most food photography is made with fake synthetic props cast in plastic and styrofoam and covered in a glaze of vaseline petroleum jelly to make it shine under the lights. At one point in my career I did product and food photography, and believe me, what makes the mouth water in print ads is the last thing in the world anyone would want to eat.

http://mentalfloss.com/article/30195/11-ways-advertisers-make-food-look-delicious

[bhaktajan]

Going Green

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[not same as Soylent Green. Soylent Green is a trademarked by GMO Int.]

[USFREEDOM911]

You are correct sir.

It is what our grandchildren will call it on the late news:
Food porn is a glamourized visual presentation of cooking or eating in advertisements, infomercials, blogs[1] cooking shows or other visual media.
Food porn often takes the form of food photography with styling that presents food provocatively, in a similar way to glamour photography or pornographic photography.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_porn

{Funny touch with the anus portal and the grilled stuffed offal intestines}


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[USFREEDOM911]

The irony!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jell-O Pudding Pops ... the original old time Jell-O was/is made of gelatin.

Jell-O is a sweetened gelatin product made by boiling the bones and hides of animals. ... The collagen in gelatin does come from boiling the bones and hides of animals processed for their meat (usually cows and pigs). But hooves consist of a different protein, keratin, which can't produce gelatin.

So a spokesman is an accessory to the act...the irony is poor Bill lost a son while hawking gelatin mongers. Sad to have witnessed other's sufferings. Unless they're paid and insured professionals.

Are Bull fighters covered by National Health Services?

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[USFREEDOM911]

Best visage:
[IMG]http://78.media.tumblr.com/4ae705d45ec1da0e3f484e4715af306e/tumblr_mg55kgFnrF1s2yttzo1_1280.jpg[IMG]

https://www.outdoorlife.com/sites/outdoorlife.com/files/styles/1000_1x_/public/images/2017/08/elk-bull-hunting-butchering-quarters.jpg?itok=pjoWgkyT&fc=50,50

[USFREEDOM911]

Most food photography is made with fake synthetic props cast in plastic and styrofoam and covered in a glaze of vaseline petroleum jelly to make it shine under the lights. At one point in my career I did product and food photography, and believe me, what makes the mouth water in print ads is the last thing in the world anyone would want to eat.

http://mentalfloss.com/article/30195/11-ways-advertisers-make-food-look-delicious

https://i.imgflip.com/15o8yk.jpg

[USFREEDOM911]

Going Green

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[not same as Soylent Green. Soylent Green is a trademarked by GMO Int.]

Kewl

[bhaktajan]

Everytime I see a mass murderer go before the judge I think, "There goes those vegetarians again"

After it's Miller-Time:

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-da859b3f067f80b06b5db14092016f32-c

[bhaktajan]

every time i see school girls in a cat fight, I think to myself, "There goes those vegetarians again"

Every man needs his own pussy!

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[bhaktajan]

every time i see school girls in a cat fight, I think to myself, "There goes those vegetarians again"

Every man needs his own pussy!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOh_6ikXkAA5-YN.jpg

[bhaktajan]

Have you eaten Bull's testicles? Give us a hint if you have.

D'ya think the terrorist's like fresh meat too?

Meat eater are not racists! They'll eat any species' BODY's body male or female or potluck surprise.

[Damocles]

Yeah. Just the other day as I was eating a burger I remember invading a small country because, well..., meat.

[Leonthecat]

https://i.imgflip.com/15o8yk.jpg

Colon cancer. Ha ha ha.

[USFREEDOM911]

Everytime I see a mass murderer go before the judge I think, "There goes those vegetarians again"

After it's Miller-Time:

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-da859b3f067f80b06b5db14092016f32-c

Is this your substitution, for when you can't get the real thing?? :D

[USFREEDOM911]

every time i see school girls in a cat fight, I think to myself, "There goes those vegetarians again"

Every man needs his own pussy!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOh_6ikXkAA5-YN.jpg

Now you're reduced to repeating your own posts.

Are you trying to convince others or just yourself. :D

[USFREEDOM911]

Have you eaten Bull's testicles? Give us a hint if you have.

D'ya think the terrorist's like fresh meat too?

Meat eater are not racists! They'll eat any species' BODY's body male or female or potluck surprise.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6a/Rocky_mountain_oysters.jpg/1200px-Rocky_mountain_oysters.jpg

[USFREEDOM911]

Colon cancer. Ha ha ha.

Since you've used the same info, twice now, it does appear that you're really upset over that last Drs. visit. :D

[bhaktajan]

Is this your substitution, for when you can't get the real thing?? :D

Dude, I am posting in the

Religion, Philosophy, and Ethics forum

You are posting Food-Porn and advocating something that is simple based on your opinion and mass-consciousness.

I post:
The Four Noble Truths comprise the essence of Buddha's teachings, though they leave much left unexplained. They are the truth of suffering, the truth of the cause of suffering, the truth of the end of suffering, and the truth of the path that leads to the end of suffering.

I post:
In Buddhist texts Ahimsa is part of the Five Precepts, the first of which has been to abstain from killing. This precept of Ahimsa is applicable to both the Buddhist layperson and the monk community.

The Ahimsa precept is not a commandment and transgressions did not invite religious sanctions for layperson, but their power has been in the Buddhist belief in karmic consequences and their impact in afterlife during rebirth.[116]

Killing, in Buddhist belief, could lead to rebirth in the hellish realm, and for a longer time in more severe conditions if the murder victim was a monk.[116] Saving animals from slaughter for meat, is believed to be a way to acquire merit for better rebirth. These moral precepts have been voluntarily self-enforced in lay Buddhist culture through the associated belief in karma and rebirth.[117] The Buddhist texts not only recommended Ahimsa, but suggest avoiding trading goods that contribute to or are a result of violence:

These five trades, O monks, should not be taken up by a lay follower: trading with weapons, trading in living beings, trading in meat, trading in intoxicants, trading in poison.

Unlike lay Buddhists, transgressions by monks do invite sanctions.[119] Full expulsion of a monk from sangha follows instances of killing, just like any other serious offense against the monastic nikaya code of conduct.

You post:
the body and blood of beasts served with napkins ---that you suppose that you can get away with because you are a defiler of Religion, Philosophy, and Ethics forums...correct? You do know the original use of the term: "9/11" ?
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In November 1967, the FCC met with the American Telephone and Telegraph Company (AT&T) to find a means of establishing a universal emergency number that could be implemented quickly. In 1968, AT&T announced that it would establish the digits 9-1-1 (nine-one-one) as the emergency code throughout the United States.

Later came the ironic historical event.

[USFREEDOM911]

Dude, I am posting in the

Religion, Philosophy, and Ethics forum

You are posting Food-Porn and advocating something that is simple based on your opinion and mass-consciousness.

I post:
The Four Noble Truths comprise the essence of Buddha's teachings, though they leave much left unexplained. They are the truth of suffering, the truth of the cause of suffering, the truth of the end of suffering, and the truth of the path that leads to the end of suffering.

I post:
In Buddhist texts Ahimsa is part of the Five Precepts, the first of which has been to abstain from killing. This precept of Ahimsa is applicable to both the Buddhist layperson and the monk community.

The Ahimsa precept is not a commandment and transgressions did not invite religious sanctions for layperson, but their power has been in the Buddhist belief in karmic consequences and their impact in afterlife during rebirth.[116]

Killing, in Buddhist belief, could lead to rebirth in the hellish realm, and for a longer time in more severe conditions if the murder victim was a monk.[116] Saving animals from slaughter for meat, is believed to be a way to acquire merit for better rebirth. These moral precepts have been voluntarily self-enforced in lay Buddhist culture through the associated belief in karma and rebirth.[117] The Buddhist texts not only recommended Ahimsa, but suggest avoiding trading goods that contribute to or are a result of violence:

These five trades, O monks, should not be taken up by a lay follower: trading with weapons, trading in living beings, trading in meat, trading in intoxicants, trading in poison.

Unlike lay Buddhists, transgressions by monks do invite sanctions.[119] Full expulsion of a monk from sangha follows instances of killing, just like any other serious offense against the monastic nikaya code of conduct.

You post:
the body and blood of beasts served with napkins ---that you suppose that you can get away with because you are a defiler of Religion, Philosophy, and Ethics forums...correct? You do know the original use of the term: "9/11" ?
6174

In November 1967, the FCC met with the American Telephone and Telegraph Company (AT&T) to find a means of establishing a universal emergency number that could be implemented quickly. In 1968, AT&T announced that it would establish the digits 9-1-1 (nine-one-one) as the emergency code throughout the United States.

Later came the ironic historical event.

You should talk to Damo then. :good4u:


https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/09/76/4b/d1/open-pit-bbq.jpg

[bhaktajan]

There it is! By Jove you might have a convert over to your side here.

Where is this photo? Where are they allowed to already be eating babies?

Does it taste like Veal? Is there 'dark' meat on babies?

Yes indeed that's where it is headed. There will be tattooed and arrogant pygmies specialising in purveying the best baby meat the world has to offer. And the chutzpah part of it is that Dante's Infernal Ristorante delivers & caters too.

If you convert me to eat male and female and downed babies ---does that make you my Guru?

[bhaktajan]

6176

[USFREEDOM911]

There it is! By Jove you might have a convert over to your side here.

Where is this photo? Where are they allowed to already be eating babies?

Does it taste like Veal? Is there 'dark' meat on babies?

Yes indeed that's where it is headed. There will be tattooed and arrogant pygmies specialising in purveying the best baby meat the world has to offer. And the chutzpah part of it is that Dante's Infernal Ristorante delivers & caters too.

If you convert me to eat male and female and downed babies ---does that make you my Guru?

You could always treat my genitals like a lollypop and just lick them. :D

[Jade Dragon]

Colon cancer. Ha ha ha.

And the oxalate in vegetation is what can cause my kidney stones. It's not meat, it's not veggies, it's the American way of excess. Apparently there is no food, or drink that excess consumption can't develop issues. Even water, as too much dilutes the blood, making electrolytes, etc less effective, and taxing the kidneys.

[bhaktajan]

You could always treat my genitals like a lollypop and just lick them. :D

YOU ARE AN ASS HOLE.

And destiny will bestow upon you eons of meat to eat ---and even better you will never need to report to a job again to get your rations.

[bhaktajan]

Why Do Fast Food Outlets Have Higher Crime Rates?
https://www.indybay.org/newsitems/20...5/18768561.php

Adrenaline, additives, and preservatives in the food, impatience in fast food drivethrough queues, corporate objectification of the customer, poverty are some reasons for the higher crime rate at fast food outlets.

What are some factors causing the higher crime rates in fast food restaurants?

1. The terror, fright, agony and anger experienced by mammals being murdered in slaughterhouses is manifested in higher secretions of adrenaline into their blood stream and muscle cells. This adrenaline, the links of whose molecule chains are only somewhat broken up by cooking, remain in the animals' flesh and continue to act as anger, terror and fright in the humans eating their flesh. At fast food outlets, many are consuming such flesh.

2. The vibrations of those handling, cooking, and serving food also enter the food. Fast food employees in the US have not been allowed to unionize. For the most part they receive minimum wage with no pension, no health insurance, no other benefits. Their working conditions create anger.

3. Besides animal flesh, artificial colors and preservatives have negative effects on behavior. "Artificial colors and preservatives added to food can influence how a child behaves, according to a 2009 article published in the "European Journal of Clinical Nutrition." Foods that contain large amounts of saturated fats, trans fats or sodium can also play a role."

4. In their attempt to market to as many people as possible, fast food outlets are often built in poor neighborhoods in which the rate of violent crime is higher. Eric Schlosser writes in Fast Food Nation: The Dark Side of the American Meal: "the vast majority of restaurant robberies occur in fast food restaurants because they are open late, staffed by teenagers, full of cash and convennient."

5. Those who live in poorer neighborhoods have less access to full service grocery stores, to fresh fruits and vegetables, not only because these stores avoid the crime, and because the poor have fewer transportation options.

6. Drive through queues lead to impatience, and in some cases to actions such as throwing the food back at the clerk.

7. Fast food outlets are more easily accessible for desperate people resorting to theft.

8. Fast food drive through queues are not conducive to personal service. Customers are upset when exceptions can't be made.

The Bureau Of Labor Statistics estimates that the rate of assaults at limited-service restaurants is more than twice as high as at full-service restaurants

http://www.bls.gov/iif/oshwc/cfar0005.pdf

9. The assembly line character of food food outlets ieads to less personal contact with the customer, more objectification. Those who sense they are being objectified are more likely to have an angry response.

From the Huffington Post:

Melodi Dushane... demanded nuggets instead of hashbrowns. When she was met with a "no," Dushane used her fists instead of her words, punched the McDonald's drive-thru employee and ended up in court with a vandalism charge.

Examples Of Violence:

From the online edition of Slate:

"In January, Toledo, Ohio, resident Melodi Dushane punched out a McDonald's drive-through window when she was told they didn't sell Chicken McNuggets in the morning. Another woman recently drove through a crowd of people in a McDonald's parking lot, injuring four. In 2008, a Los Angeles man punched a 16-year-old girl in the face at a McDonald's after she complained about him cutting the line. A Wendy's customer reportedly assaulted a female clerk at a drive-through window in 2007 after she didn't tell him to "have a nice day." The list goes on. Spike Jonze even made a fast-food beating the centerpiece of his music video for Arcade Fire's "The Suburbs" "

From the online edition of Livestrong:

"Artificial colors and preservatives added to food can influence how a child behaves, according to a 2009 article published in the "European Journal of Clinical Nutrition." Foods that contain large amounts of saturated fats, trans fats or sodium can also play a role."

Below are links to a few of many thousands of articles on the correlation between fast food outlets and crime, or the correlation between meat and anger.

Obesity too is correlated to fast food eating.
Isocaloric studies indicate the average vegan weighs 23 lbs. less than nonvegetarians.

McRage
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a.../04/mcrage.htm
*
10 bizarre fast food crimes
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...o-fast-food_n_
*
Deadly night shift at fast food outlets
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=3993076

*

Effects of junk food on children's behavior

http://www.livestrong.com/article/36...k-food-bad-be/

Eric Schlosser author of Fast Food Nation
https://books.google.com/books?id=dU...g=PA298&dq=fas

*

http://www.westonaprice.org/uncatego...a-solution-in/

*

http://www.americansunitedforchange...._food_chains_/


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Fast Food is known to be energy dense, high in saturated fat and have low micronutrient content [7–12] and its consumption is associated with other poor food choices
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2898050/

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Now, as evidence mounts that the Los Angeles City Council's ban on new fast-food restaurants is so far failing, leaders and thinkers are again scrutinizing the role restaurants of all kinds play or could play in this historically troubled cluster of largely low-income neighborhoods.
Seven years ago, the city pushed through the nation's first ordinance to focus on public health and fast food, at least in part because a community health nonprofit had lobbied tenaciously for the regulation as a way to fight obesity — a problem that is typically worse in poorer neighborhoods.
http://www.latimes.com/local/califor...510-story.html

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Vermont, Washington D.C., Maine, Montana and Rhode Island have the most fast food spots per capita, while less surprisingly, California, New York, Texas, Florida and Pennsylvania have the most total fast food locations.

[BUT THE MAP IS GONE!]

http://www.businessinsider.com/this-...y-state-2012-1

[bhaktajan]

McRage
Why is there so much violent crime at fast-food restaurants?
the fast-food-chain assault has become as iconic as the postal-worker shooting spree.

In January, Toledo, Ohio, resident Melodi Dushane punched out a McDonald's drive-through window when she was told they didn't sell Chicken McNuggets in the morning. Another woman recently drove through a crowd of people in a McDonald's parking lot, injuring four. In 2008, a Los Angeles man punched a 16-year-old girl in the face at a McDonald's after she complained about him cutting the line. A Wendy's customer reportedly assaulted a female clerk at a drive-through window in 2007 after she didn't tell him to "have a nice day." The list goes on. Spike Jonze even made a fast-food beating the centerpiece of his music video for Arcade Fire's "The Suburbs." (You can find a compilation of restaurant violence here.)


Fast-food restaurants haven't entirely replaced banks as crime targets, and criminal activity in such places is no longer on the rise. (Crimes like this, however, are.) The Bureau of Labor Statistics estimates that the number of homicides at "limited service restaurants," which include fast-food chains like McDonald's and KFC, has declined from 35 in 2007 to 15 in 2009. But fast-food establishments like Wendy's and Burger King do see more crime than their "full-service" counterparts, like Ruby Tuesday's or the Olive Garden. BLS estimates that the rate of assaults at limited-service restaurants is more than twice as high as at full-service restaurants. Whereas sit-down restaurants had 0.8 assaults per 10,000 employees in 2009, fast-food joints had 1.8.

Why the difference? The primary reason is that fast-food chains are unusually vulnerable to robbery, which accounts for most of the violence at fast-food stores. Like gas stations and convenience stores, fast-food chains open early and close late. But customers there tend to use cash more than at gas stations, which have switched almost entirely to credit cards. And unlike convenience stores, fast-food places don't always limit the amount of cash that an employee can access. It doesn't help that fast-food workers are paid so little. More often than not, the robber is a friend of an employee or an employee himself. Location is a factor, too. What makes McDonald's restaurants so convenient to customers—they're located at major thoroughfares and intersections—also makes them great robbery targets. (Drive-throughs make for especially easy getaways.)

Demographics play a role as well. McDonald's bourgie makeovernotwithstanding, most fast-food chains cater largely to young, low-income customers. (Burger King's since-abandoned "The King" campaign was specifically aimed at "young adult male consumers.") Restaurants in high-crime areas will occasionally become crime scenes. Fast-food chains become easy places to loiter, which can lead to arguments or worse. "When you've got a relatively uneducated, young workforce and piss-poor management, put them in a high-stress situation—a burger-and-fries environment—and you'll get some improper conduct," says David Van Fleet, a professor of management at Arizona State University and co-author of The Violence Volcano: Reducing the Threat of Workplace Violence.

Customers may feel stressed out, too. Professors at the University of Toronto released a study in 2010 concluding that exposure to the logos of fast-food chains like Wendy's and Burger King made people hasty and impatient. When "fast" food doesn't live up to its name, people might lash out.

The "trend" of fast-food violence isn't really a trend. Any apparent uptick in domestic abuse at the Home of the Whopper probably owes more to YouTube and camera phones than to growing unruliness. But as with postal workers, all it takes are a few bad apples. Goodbye "going postal"; hello "McRage."

http://www.slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/03/fox-news-ralph-peters-quits-over-trump-coverage.html

[USFREEDOM911]

YOU ARE AN ASS HOLE.

And destiny will bestow upon you eons of meat to eat ---and even better you will never need to report to a job again to get your rations.

Gee, thanks for noticing. :good4u:

https://orig00.deviantart.net/757d/f/2008/294/3/e/unites_steaks_of_america_by_weremagnus.png

[USFREEDOM911]

Why Do Fast Food Outlets Have Higher Crime Rates?
https://www.indybay.org/newsitems/20...5/18768561.php

Adrenaline, additives, and preservatives in the food, impatience in fast food drivethrough queues, corporate objectification of the customer, poverty are some reasons for the higher crime rate at fast food outlets.

What are some factors causing the higher crime rates in fast food restaurants?

1. The terror, fright, agony and anger experienced by mammals being murdered in slaughterhouses is manifested in higher secretions of adrenaline into their blood stream and muscle cells. This adrenaline, the links of whose molecule chains are only somewhat broken up by cooking, remain in the animals' flesh and continue to act as anger, terror and fright in the humans eating their flesh. At fast food outlets, many are consuming such flesh.

2. The vibrations of those handling, cooking, and serving food also enter the food. Fast food employees in the US have not been allowed to unionize. For the most part they receive minimum wage with no pension, no health insurance, no other benefits. Their working conditions create anger.

3. Besides animal flesh, artificial colors and preservatives have negative effects on behavior. "Artificial colors and preservatives added to food can influence how a child behaves, according to a 2009 article published in the "European Journal of Clinical Nutrition." Foods that contain large amounts of saturated fats, trans fats or sodium can also play a role."

4. In their attempt to market to as many people as possible, fast food outlets are often built in poor neighborhoods in which the rate of violent crime is higher. Eric Schlosser writes in Fast Food Nation: The Dark Side of the American Meal: "the vast majority of restaurant robberies occur in fast food restaurants because they are open late, staffed by teenagers, full of cash and convennient."

5. Those who live in poorer neighborhoods have less access to full service grocery stores, to fresh fruits and vegetables, not only because these stores avoid the crime, and because the poor have fewer transportation options.

6. Drive through queues lead to impatience, and in some cases to actions such as throwing the food back at the clerk.

7. Fast food outlets are more easily accessible for desperate people resorting to theft.

8. Fast food drive through queues are not conducive to personal service. Customers are upset when exceptions can't be made.

The Bureau Of Labor Statistics estimates that the rate of assaults at limited-service restaurants is more than twice as high as at full-service restaurants

http://www.bls.gov/iif/oshwc/cfar0005.pdf

9. The assembly line character of food food outlets ieads to less personal contact with the customer, more objectification. Those who sense they are being objectified are more likely to have an angry response.

From the Huffington Post:

Melodi Dushane... demanded nuggets instead of hashbrowns. When she was met with a "no," Dushane used her fists instead of her words, punched the McDonald's drive-thru employee and ended up in court with a vandalism charge.

Examples Of Violence:

From the online edition of Slate:

"In January, Toledo, Ohio, resident Melodi Dushane punched out a McDonald's drive-through window when she was told they didn't sell Chicken McNuggets in the morning. Another woman recently drove through a crowd of people in a McDonald's parking lot, injuring four. In 2008, a Los Angeles man punched a 16-year-old girl in the face at a McDonald's after she complained about him cutting the line. A Wendy's customer reportedly assaulted a female clerk at a drive-through window in 2007 after she didn't tell him to "have a nice day." The list goes on. Spike Jonze even made a fast-food beating the centerpiece of his music video for Arcade Fire's "The Suburbs" "

From the online edition of Livestrong:

"Artificial colors and preservatives added to food can influence how a child behaves, according to a 2009 article published in the "European Journal of Clinical Nutrition." Foods that contain large amounts of saturated fats, trans fats or sodium can also play a role."

Below are links to a few of many thousands of articles on the correlation between fast food outlets and crime, or the correlation between meat and anger.

Obesity too is correlated to fast food eating.
Isocaloric studies indicate the average vegan weighs 23 lbs. less than nonvegetarians.

McRage
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a.../04/mcrage.htm
*
10 bizarre fast food crimes
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...o-fast-food_n_
*
Deadly night shift at fast food outlets
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=3993076

*

Effects of junk food on children's behavior

http://www.livestrong.com/article/36...k-food-bad-be/

Eric Schlosser author of Fast Food Nation
https://books.google.com/books?id=dU...g=PA298&dq=fas

*

http://www.westonaprice.org/uncatego...a-solution-in/

*

http://www.americansunitedforchange...._food_chains_/


VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV
Fast Food is known to be energy dense, high in saturated fat and have low micronutrient content [7–12] and its consumption is associated with other poor food choices
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2898050/

IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
Now, as evidence mounts that the Los Angeles City Council's ban on new fast-food restaurants is so far failing, leaders and thinkers are again scrutinizing the role restaurants of all kinds play or could play in this historically troubled cluster of largely low-income neighborhoods.
Seven years ago, the city pushed through the nation's first ordinance to focus on public health and fast food, at least in part because a community health nonprofit had lobbied tenaciously for the regulation as a way to fight obesity — a problem that is typically worse in poorer neighborhoods.
http://www.latimes.com/local/califor...510-story.html

HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Vermont, Washington D.C., Maine, Montana and Rhode Island have the most fast food spots per capita, while less surprisingly, California, New York, Texas, Florida and Pennsylvania have the most total fast food locations.

[BUT THE MAP IS GONE!]

http://www.businessinsider.com/this-...y-state-2012-1

https://www.dietsinreview.com/diet_column/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/panera.jpg

[USFREEDOM911]

McRage
Why is there so much violent crime at fast-food restaurants?
the fast-food-chain assault has become as iconic as the postal-worker shooting spree.

In January, Toledo, Ohio, resident Melodi Dushane punched out a McDonald's drive-through window when she was told they didn't sell Chicken McNuggets in the morning. Another woman recently drove through a crowd of people in a McDonald's parking lot, injuring four. In 2008, a Los Angeles man punched a 16-year-old girl in the face at a McDonald's after she complained about him cutting the line. A Wendy's customer reportedly assaulted a female clerk at a drive-through window in 2007 after she didn't tell him to "have a nice day." The list goes on. Spike Jonze even made a fast-food beating the centerpiece of his music video for Arcade Fire's "The Suburbs." (You can find a compilation of restaurant violence here.)


Fast-food restaurants haven't entirely replaced banks as crime targets, and criminal activity in such places is no longer on the rise. (Crimes like this, however, are.) The Bureau of Labor Statistics estimates that the number of homicides at "limited service restaurants," which include fast-food chains like McDonald's and KFC, has declined from 35 in 2007 to 15 in 2009. But fast-food establishments like Wendy's and Burger King do see more crime than their "full-service" counterparts, like Ruby Tuesday's or the Olive Garden. BLS estimates that the rate of assaults at limited-service restaurants is more than twice as high as at full-service restaurants. Whereas sit-down restaurants had 0.8 assaults per 10,000 employees in 2009, fast-food joints had 1.8.

Why the difference? The primary reason is that fast-food chains are unusually vulnerable to robbery, which accounts for most of the violence at fast-food stores. Like gas stations and convenience stores, fast-food chains open early and close late. But customers there tend to use cash more than at gas stations, which have switched almost entirely to credit cards. And unlike convenience stores, fast-food places don't always limit the amount of cash that an employee can access. It doesn't help that fast-food workers are paid so little. More often than not, the robber is a friend of an employee or an employee himself. Location is a factor, too. What makes McDonald's restaurants so convenient to customers—they're located at major thoroughfares and intersections—also makes them great robbery targets. (Drive-throughs make for especially easy getaways.)

Demographics play a role as well. McDonald's bourgie makeovernotwithstanding, most fast-food chains cater largely to young, low-income customers. (Burger King's since-abandoned "The King" campaign was specifically aimed at "young adult male consumers.") Restaurants in high-crime areas will occasionally become crime scenes. Fast-food chains become easy places to loiter, which can lead to arguments or worse. "When you've got a relatively uneducated, young workforce and piss-poor management, put them in a high-stress situation—a burger-and-fries environment—and you'll get some improper conduct," says David Van Fleet, a professor of management at Arizona State University and co-author of The Violence Volcano: Reducing the Threat of Workplace Violence.

Customers may feel stressed out, too. Professors at the University of Toronto released a study in 2010 concluding that exposure to the logos of fast-food chains like Wendy's and Burger King made people hasty and impatient. When "fast" food doesn't live up to its name, people might lash out.

The "trend" of fast-food violence isn't really a trend. Any apparent uptick in domestic abuse at the Home of the Whopper probably owes more to YouTube and camera phones than to growing unruliness. But as with postal workers, all it takes are a few bad apples. Goodbye "going postal"; hello "McRage."

http://www.slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/03/fox-news-ralph-peters-quits-over-trump-coverage.html

"...When "fast" food doesn't live up to its name, people might lash out..."

Thanks for admitting that it's a customer problem and not a business problem. :good4u:

[bhaktajan]

Thanks for admitting that it's a customer problem and not a business problem. :good4u:

Agreed, Guns don't kill people [crazy] people kill people.

[bhaktajan]

The story of Cain's murder of Abel and its consequences is told in Genesis 4:1-18:
Abel became a herder of sheep while Cain was a tiller of the soil. 3 And it happened in the course of time that Cain brought from the fruit of the soil an offering to the Lord. 4 And Abel too had brought from the choice firstlings of his flock, and the Lord regarded Abel and his offering 5but did not regard Cain and his offering.

Genesis 1:29:
And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

Genesis 9:4-5:
4 But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.
5 And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man.

Isaiah 1:11
To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the Lord: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.

Isaiah 1:15
And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.

Isaiah 66:3
He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man;

Leviticus 3:17
It shall be a perpetual statute for your generations throughout all your dwellings, that ye eat neither fat nor blood.

Leviticus 17:10
And whatsoever man there be of the house of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn among you, that eateth any manner of blood; I will even set my face against that soul that eateth blood, and will cut him off from among his people.

[USFREEDOM911]

The story of Cain's murder of Abel and its consequences is told in Genesis 4:1-18:
Abel became a herder of sheep while Cain was a tiller of the soil. 3 And it happened in the course of time that Cain brought from the fruit of the soil an offering to the Lord. 4 And Abel too had brought from the choice firstlings of his flock, and the Lord regarded Abel and his offering 5but did not regard Cain and his offering.

Genesis 1:29:
And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

Genesis 9:4-5:
4 But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.
5 And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man.

Isaiah 1:11
To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the Lord: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.

Isaiah 1:15
And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.

Isaiah 66:3
He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man;

Leviticus 3:17
It shall be a perpetual statute for your generations throughout all your dwellings, that ye eat neither fat nor blood.

Leviticus 17:10
And whatsoever man there be of the house of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn among you, that eateth any manner of blood; I will even set my face against that soul that eateth blood, and will cut him off from among his people.

Do you always cherry pick, in order to try to make your comments appear sensible; because the "Exodus" has already occurred and animals are normally no longer sacrificed. :D

[bhaktajan]

Do you always cherry pick, in order to try to make your comments appear sensible; because the "Exodus" has already occurred and animals are normally no longer sacrificed. :D

So we have a scholar in our humble thread? I must confess that I can read what the Book says. It says it. I understand it.
There are Laws that are absolute ---and there are laws that are "provisional". Yes. Facts of Life.

[bhaktajan]

Eat,
Sleep,
Mate,
Defend.

These 4 groups of acts are specifically delineated as the four categories of activities that ALL Species/Form of living being occupy themselves in every act at every moment of their lives.

There are animalistic levels of doing these acts; brutish levels of doing these acts; palatial levels of doing these acts; celestial levels of doing these acts; etc ---and that's just us Humans. Aspiration for HIGHER objective opulences and/or standard of living is an expression of the above 4 activities ---we organise efforts to create abundance ---as if it were a sacrifice to do so, replete with remnants for our consumption.


But surely we agree 'a man should not act like an animal'.

Funny, I am reminded that when I have heard someone say "He acted like an animal" ... I always laugh to my self: He acted like a luncheon sandwich.

YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
So it is written:
Consecrate yourselves therefore, and be holy, for I am holy. And you shall not make yourselves unclean with any of the swarming things that swarm on the earth.

You shall be holy, for I am holy

Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

[USFREEDOM911]

So we have a scholar in our humble thread? I must confess that I can read what the Book says. It says it. I understand it.
There are Laws that are absolute ---and there are laws that are "provisional". Yes. Facts of Life.

You keep telling yourself that; because at least you'll have your delusions to keep you warm, at night. :palm:

[bhaktajan]

Blood, spit, sweat, skin flakes and
other misc "bodily fluids"
TRANSMIT KARMA
---one person to the other.

Duh!

That's why your doctor's insurance carrier insists that rubber gloves and a mask be donned when seeing a client [patient].

[USFREEDOM911]

Blood, spit, sweat, skin flakes and
other misc "bodily fluids"
TRANSMIT KARMA
---one person to the other.

Duh!

That's why your doctor's insurance carrier insists that rubber gloves and a mask be donned when seeing a client [patient].

Not mine; but maybe yours has good reason. :whoa:

[bhaktajan]

Not mine; but maybe yours has good reason. :whoa:

These forums are for intellectual use.

No for Bullying.

[USFREEDOM911]

These forums are for intellectual use.

No for Bullying.

Let everyone know, when you decided to use some intellect. :good4u:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgNPp3Dfl2c

[bhaktajan]

AT first it is obvious that you are an un-informed John Doe trolling without purpose.

52,289 Posts in 11 years

= 4754 posts/year

= 396 posts/mo

= 13 posts/day


My math needs to be checked. You posted 13 times in my one thread.

Anyway you do see how you are a bonefide troll.

[bhaktajan]

Let everyone know, when you decided to use some intellect. :good4u:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgNPp3Dfl2c

What gender is the meat-head?

You have any preference of which gender?

Male meat, female meat, babyling, grandma, dopey, mentally retarded, ugly, pretty, crippled, dog, horse, turtle ---and again do you care for both genders???

Anyway there are plenty of Eyes, limbs and stuffed intestines which are always welcomed.

Too bad there aren't a little chunk of gold found in the belly of each roast ...like a pearl.

You'd be rich, and the meek would be on the run.

[USFREEDOM911]

AT first it is obvious that you are an un-informed John Doe trolling without purpose.

52,289 Posts in 11 years

= 4754 posts/year

= 396 posts/mo

= 13 posts/day


My math needs to be checked. You posted 13 times in my one thread.

Anyway you do see how you are a bonefide troll.

While the first part of your equation is fairly accurate and can be confirmed by looking to the right hand side of my posts, the rest is just pure speculation and conjecture on your part; but I am glad that you're allowing me to live rent free in your cranium, seeing as how I do enjoy the quiet time. :good4u:

The dust and cobwebs are kind of thick though. :D

[USFREEDOM911]

1. What gender is the meat-head?

2. You have any preference of which gender?

3. Male meat, female meat, babyling, grandma, dopey, mentally retarded, ugly, pretty, crippled, dog, horse, turtle ---and again do you care for both genders???

4. Anyway there are plenty of Eyes, limbs and stuffed intestines which are always welcomed.

5. Too bad there aren't a little chunk of gold found in the belly of each roast ...like a pearl.

You'd be rich, and the meek would be on the run.

1. I wasn't aware that "meat" had a gender. :whoa:

2. Refer to 1

3. Dog be a fine meal

4. Stew

5. NAH - makes it hard to chew

:D

[Leonthecat]

1. I wasn't aware that "meat" had a gender. :whoa:

2. Refer to 1

3. Dog be a fine meal

4. Stew

5. NAH - makes it hard to chew

:D

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This is just you trying to hide your racist behavior and hope it isn't further revealed. :good4u:

[Leonthecat]

This is just you trying to hide your racist behavior and hope it isn't further revealed. :good4u:

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[Jade Dragon]

Largest burger.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/tdp_tfd0wSE/maxresdefault.jpg

[bhaktajan]

Now do ya'll all agree: Veal tastes like baby meat.

[USFREEDOM911]

Now do ya'll all agree: Veal tastes like baby meat.

Baby calf meat, yes.

https://www.ciwf.org.uk/media/2914060/raw_cutlets_of_veal.jpg?center=0.4479950065899612, 0.5016666412353515&mode=crop&width=337&height=275&rnd=130851689860000000

[bhaktajan]

Baby calf meat, yes.

https://www.ciwf.org.uk/media/2914060/raw_cutlets_of_veal.jpg?center=0.4479950065899612, 0.5016666412353515&mode=crop&width=337&height=275&rnd=130851689860000000

Monsieur, Chef wants to know if you think it tastes like young baby ---as would be expected?
Chef considers your feedback as valuable information to pass on to future diners. RSVP

[USFREEDOM911]

Monsieur, Chef wants to know if you think it tastes like young baby ---as would be expected?
Chef considers your feedback as valuable information to pass on to future diners. RSVP

I've already said yes, baby calf.

Are you so myopic, that you didn't see it; because it is what you responded to?

[bhaktajan]

Milk her for all she got. Kidnap the baby.:innocent:

Yum Yum Eat em up.

https://media.pixcove.com/Z/0/3/Udder-Cow-Calf-Farm-Free-Image-Beef-Breeding-Milk--8631.jpg

Are you a tit or ass man?

[kudzu]

Meat eating causes wars, illness, un-controllable lust, draught ---but this knowledge is above the head and shoulders of western civilisation's grand-parentage.

The karmic-payback for enmass meat eating is documented generation after generation ---just analyse the last two centuries by counting and comparing pound-for-pound the mutual losses ---cadaver-to-cadaver.

Such societies will incur enemies that may or may not seem befitting the "Good-guys" side.

Vandal vs Romans perennially.

In regards to "be like your father in Heaven" ---do you suppose that "fox-hunting" & factory farming & gentlemen-Farmers all occur in heaven?

How does one Logically compute via,
"By each according to his works",
the cosmic "Price" accured to one-self [or to a mass of patrons],
the "cost" of a beast's carcass for thanksgiving?

How long does it take to tally-up mass karmic pay-back?


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Mis-translated Bible terms infavor of meat eating?

As a long-standing member of the Hare Krishna Movement, I have learnt by some of my Hindu Vaishnav scholars that certain Bible terms are mis-translated:

Indeed, My ulterior motive is to get nations to turn swords to Plowshares ---this is done by ultimately having a "Change of Heart" as to the reality of fostering Flesh eating [meat in German is 'Fleisch']. Flesh eating begets violence and non-compassion and the illogic fantasy of obtaining peace in an enviroment of butcher-based society.

Vegetarianism as a sublime means of eating, is borne of ordhodox yoga disiplines ---therefore the higher goal of "a-himsa" (No-violence) ergo, "shanti" (peace) can be achieved.

Please review the Greek & hebrew terms, and kindly, verify or deny their veracity:

I'd like to cut and paste the whole Bible text, but for here are the Chapter/Verse of mention of NONE-FLESH EATING:

Old Testiment RE-CAP:

gen 1:29 [vs. Gen 9:3 ~immediately after recovery from the flood].

gen 9:4-5

num 11:33

Isaiah 1:11,15

Isaiah 66.3

Leviticus 3:17


Regarding, "Thou shall not Kill" ---reference:

The hebrew words are: 'Lo tirtzach' ---according to Dr Reuben Alcalay's 'Complete Hebrew/English Dictionary', 'tirtzach' refers to any kind of killing.

Christ was vegetarian ---there are 19 Gospel referneces to 'meat' all have been mis-translated from the original Greek Bible text:


Greek (3 of references) - English meaning:
Broma (4) - 'food' Romans 14:15, 20-21; I Corinthians 8:8, 10:3
Brosis (4) - 'the act of eating' Romans 14:17
Brosimos (1) - 'that which may be eaten'
Phago (3) - 'to eat' Luke 8:55
Prosphagon (1) - 'anything to eat'
Trophe (6) - 'nourishment' John 4:8, Acts 9:19, Acts 27:33-36
and,
Trapesa (?) - 'table' "...They set a table before him ..." Acts 16:34

Thus, John 21:5 "Have ye any meat" ---is incorrect. it should have been translated:
"Have ye 'anything to eat'"

Regarding, "FISH" ---reference: The secret & mystical symbol/Password for "Christian" in Roman Prosecution Times, derived from the Greek word for fish, ICHTHUS ---forming the acronym: Iesous Christos Theou Uios Soter (Jesus Christ Son of God Saviour)

New Testiment RE-CAP:

Matt 3:4 ~(the word 'locusts' used here means Locust beans, aka, carob, aka, St John's bread)
Luke 8:55 ~the word used here is 'phago' (to eat).
Isaiah 7:14,15 ~prophets predict Jesus's diet: "... Butter & Honey shall he eat ..."
Luke 24:41-43 ~Note the words used, Jesus was offered two things 'Fish and a honeycomb' "... and he took it . . ." indicates that he choose one of the two judging from Isaiah 7:15 [the word used here is 'brosimos' (eatable)].

See the Offence for fleash eating:

Greek word for FLESH is: 'kreas'
I Corinthians 8:13

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Can someone be brave enough to address these words ---for it is the next portal to world peace.

HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HH

a learned person sees all living entities equally panditah sama-darsinah because he sees the same soul within the different varieties of bodies.

'We want brotherhood, but what does it mean to be brothers? It means we have the same father.' Only when we recognize God as the supreme father can we have real brotherhood.

Knowing God to be the supreme father, we can understand that if we deal with God's other children nicely, God will be pleased. But if we try to exploit and commit violence upon one another, how will the supreme father be pleased? And if God is not pleased, how can we expect peace and prosperity in the world?

"Animals are also children of God, although they have less developed intelligence. They resemble human children, who also do not have developed intelligence, or developed speech. Nor can they defend themselves.

But in a family the strong are meant to protect the weak. For a stronger older brother to torture or massacre a baby is a terrible crime. How upset and angry the father would be!

So animals should be treated like our younger brothers or sisters, to be protected, not exploited or slaughtered so we can eat their flesh.


Oh how stupid.. Vaccinations for polio, brain surgery, automobiles, airplanes etc.. don't exist in heaven either.

[Jade Dragon]

Oh how stupid.. Vaccinations for polio, brain surgery, automobiles, airplanes etc.. don't exist in heaven either.

Vegans were often on the top of the douchebag list before the Trumpkins came along. Just look up vegan meme's and you can see. So what's the difference between eating a chickens eggs, or eating fruit? Unfortunately for them not a thing, outside of the obvious. Vegans don't realize what a spoiled idea veganism is. It's only an option now because of abundance, and only if you have access. In the old day's you ate what little you could farm, hunt, or find. I'd love to hear what they think Eskimos in northern Alaska should do. They're some of the few people aloud to harvest whale meat in America. I like animals more than people, and I'm still a serious meat eater.

[kudzu]

Vegans were often on the top of the douchebag list before the Trumpkins came along. Just look up vegan meme's and you can see. So what's the difference between eating a chickens eggs, or eating fruit? Unfortunately for them not a thing, outside of the obvious. Vegans don't realize what a spoiled idea veganism is. It's only an option now because of abundance, and only if you have access. In the old day's you ate what little you could farm, hunt, or find. I'd love to hear what they think Eskimos in northern Alaska should do. They're some of the few people aloud to harvest whale meat in America. I like animals more than people, and I'm still a serious meat eater.

I don't have a problem with a vegetarian diet.. I just can't stand these religious vegans..

[USFREEDOM911]

Milk her for all she got. Kidnap the baby.:innocent:

Yum Yum Eat em up.

[IMG]https://media.pixcove.com/Z/0/3/Udder-Cow-Calf-Farm-Free-Image-Beef-Breeding-Milk--8631.jpg[IMG]

Are you a tit or ass man?

https://hilahcooking.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/bbq-beef-ribs-2.jpg

[USFREEDOM911]

Vegans were often on the top of the douchebag list before the Trumpkins came along. Just look up vegan meme's and you can see. So what's the difference between eating a chickens eggs, or eating fruit? Unfortunately for them not a thing, outside of the obvious. Vegans don't realize what a spoiled idea veganism is. It's only an option now because of abundance, and only if you have access. In the old day's you ate what little you could farm, hunt, or find. I'd love to hear what they think Eskimos in northern Alaska should do. They're some of the few people aloud to harvest whale meat in America. I like animals more than people, and I'm still a serious meat eater.

And if being Vegan is so great, then why do they NEED to take supplements to stay healthy??

Could it be that grass doesn't give them all the body requires or that meat supplies??

Here's a vegan having his meal.

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-f8f5027b336a2b2fb1f4e034a0669a1d

[kudzu]

He's an idiot.. People in the Middle East really do eat locusts and feed them to their livestock.. I never at them, but my brothers did.. roasted on a metal tray behind the taxi stand.. Locust beans, indeed.

[bhaktajan]

Oh how stupid.. Vaccinations for polio, brain surgery, automobiles, airplanes etc.. don't exist in heaven either.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS1p7ojsDENl3Hi5UXT6zuK6SCKA2wPP w2QHqsOB68GfyYuCu_Fdw

[bhaktajan]

He's an idiot.. People in the Middle East really do eat locusts and feed them to their livestock.. I never at them, but my brothers did.. roasted on a metal tray behind the taxi stand.. Locust beans, indeed.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/06/61/df/0661df5bd03a3494a4be0f363808d286.gif

[bhaktajan]

He's an idiot.. People in the Middle East really do eat locusts and feed them to their livestock.. I never at them, but my brothers did.. roasted on a metal tray behind the taxi stand.. Locust beans, indeed.

AND THE MIDDLE EAST IS ALL THE RAGE!

[bhaktajan]

And if being Vegan is so great, then why do they NEED to take supplements to stay healthy??

Could it be that grass doesn't give them all the body requires or that meat supplies??

Here's a vegan having his meal.

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-f8f5027b336a2b2fb1f4e034a0669a1d

1] I am not a vegan. I am a vegetarian. I eat no meat, fish nor eggs.

2] You dont get anything from eating meat that the body requires. Junk food is mafia food. And a great earner for mutual funds.
99% of prescription medications are actually supplements to stay healthy.
No vitamins nor minerals are derived from cadavers.

[kudzu]

AND THE MIDDLE EAST IS ALL THE RAGE!


You plagiarized pages of someone else's work.. That makes you a dirtbag.

[bhaktajan]

I don't have a problem with a vegetarian diet.. I just can't stand these religious vegans..

"religious vegans"

Who are these religious vegans?

Your son will wank off less; your daughters will be less good-looking and less loose by being a vegetarian.

Vegetarian [like most poorer people that eat less blood laden foods] are handsome.

The bigger a meat and pork and frog and squirrel and snake meat eaten in youth the more handsome you will be.

I have rarely found a Buffalo faced person that didn't evolve his looks by eating veggies.

The factor for converting into a vegetarian is to miss the chewing texture of the meat.

Without spices added to meat ---it would be tasteless.

NEXT someone will post that Lions and birds don't put salt and pepper on their meat and worms

[USFREEDOM911]

1] I am not a vegan. I am a vegetarian. I eat no meat, fish nor eggs.

2] You dont get anything from eating meat that the body requires. Junk food is mafia food. And a great earner for mutual funds.
99% of prescription medications are actually supplements to stay healthy.
No vitamins nor minerals are derived from cadavers.

My comment was about supplements to stay healthy, not PRESCRIPTION medication.
You don't need a prescription for Vitamins D or B-12.

I found a picture of your last family outing.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/kIMry45NbEM/maxresdefault.jpg

[kudzu]

AND THE MIDDLE EAST IS ALL THE RAGE!

The Bible you were quoting is from the Middle East, dimwit.

[bhaktajan]

Sybill Shepherd, best known for her role starring alongside Bruce Willis on the ABC 80s drama Moonlighting, agreed to promote eating meat for the Beef Industry Council in back in 1987.

The slogan was “Real food for real people!”

Cybill was removed from the campaign after she admitted she was a vegetarian.

Hello? Why do the campaign to begin with?
Written by Vegetarian Star on February 10th, 2009 in Actresses, Food & Drink, Not So Vegetarian.

[bhaktajan]

The Bible you were quoting is from the Middle East, dimwit.

Yes since 2001 we have all been forced to study the way the Middle East behaves ---and we are forced to change our ways as a result.

[bhaktajan]

He's an idiot.. People in the Middle East really do eat locusts and feed them to their livestock.. I never at them, but my brothers did.. roasted on a metal tray behind the taxi stand.. Locust beans, indeed.

So this nomrod calls me an idiot [

So I googled this:
Locust beans in the middle east

and I got nothing but links to what John the Baptist....

...understanding of John the Baptist's time in the wilderness is that, though the text says he ate “locusts and wild honey,” he actually ate locust bean pods, not insects. This has become such a part of Christian mythology that the carob tree, which produces edible bean pods and is native to the Middle East, ...


John The Baptist survived on the edible fruit of the locust TREE year-round! ... John The Baptist did NOT survive YEAR-ROUND by eating bugs, ... It is sometimes known as locust, or "Saint John's Bread", in the belief that the "locusts" on which John the Baptist fed were carob pods.

Ceratonia siliqua, commonly known as the carob tree or carob bush, from Arabic خَرُّوبٌ (kharrūb) and Hebrew חרוב (haruv), St John's-bread,[1] or locust bean[2] (not to be confused with the African locust bean), or simply locust-tree,[3] is a species of flowering evergreen shrub or tree in the pea family, Fabaceae. It is widely cultivated for its edible pods, and as an ornamental tree in gardens. The ripe, dried pod is often ground to carob powder, which is used to replace cocoa powder. Carob bars, an alternative to chocolate bars, are often available in health-food stores.
The carob tree is native to the Mediterranean region, including Southern Europe, Northern Africa, the larger Mediterranean islands, the Levant and Middle-East of Western Asia into Iran; and the Canary Islands and Macaronesia.[4][5] The carat, a unit of mass for gemstones, and of purity for gold, takes its name from the Arabic word for a carob seed kīrāt via the Greek keration.

The carob tree ( Ceratonia siliqua ) from which Locust Beans are obtained is a species of flowering evergreen shrub or tree in the pea family, Fabaceae, that is native to the Mediterranean region, as well as Iran and the Middle-East, Portugal and probably the Canary islands. It is cultivated for its edible seed pods.

and

Have you ever wondered how John the Baptist survived in the desert eating locusts and honey? I bet you thought he ate insects and dined on honey comb. Well, I thought so too, until the Seventh IIFWP (Interreligious and International Federation for World Peace) pilgrimage to Israel in September, 2004. On that trip I learned that his honey was date honey crushed from dates, and that the flour for his bread came from grinding the bean of the locust tree. Yes, a personal visit to the Holy Land can dispel misconceptions.
https://www.tparents.org/Library/Unification/Talks/Cutts/Cutts-041200.htm

WHERE SHALL I SEND MY BILL FOR TUTORING YOU MASTER KUDZU?

[bhaktajan]

During thousands and hundreds of years,
the hatreds and viciousness in meats
in people's dining utensils,
are as deep as sea,
and are hardly to cease.
If one wants to know why there are wars in the world,
just listen to the thrilling screams
from a slaughter house

This is a well-known Buddhist poem, which reveals the connection between Meat-eating and War.

Meat-eating causes hatred, and hatred may cause war.

The hatreds arouse when an animal is killed, and when someone eats that animal's meat, the hatreds,
and the thoughts of vengeance, will enter the eater's body together with the meat.

Those hatreds and thoughts of vengeance can accumulate in one's body, making him become more
and more depressed, dislike others, easy to be angry, easy to conflict with others, etc. and when a
large number of people (e.g. people in a nation) are dominated by these emotions, that may cause war.

Those hatreds and thoughts of vengeance will pollute and block one's heart, make his heart closed,
as hard as stone, and become a great obstruction against enlightenment. A philosopher with evil inclination,
who preaches the doctrines that supports violence, massacre, and anti-religion behaviors, may emerge under such a circumstance.

If one can renounce meat-eating, those pollutions will not continue to accumulate in his body and on his heart,
but those pollutions will not be cleansed automatically. One also need to renounce killing, and practice some
Dharmas (e.g. some Dharanis, mantras, repentances, etc ) which can cleanse those negative karmas.

For example, the Vajra-sattva Heart Mantra, Ksitigarbha Bodhisattva Sutra, Great Compassion Dharani,
Great Compassion Repentance, Shurangama Mantra, Six Words Great Enlightening Dharani, etc. are very
powerful and efficient for bad karma cleansing. Their Dharma-streams can wash your heart, soften your heart,
make your heart open for enlightenment, and make you an inartificial virtuous person.

http://www.fodian.net/world/meat.war.html

[Jade Dragon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqFfRvxJQwI

[bhaktajan]

Consequences of Meat Protein on Human Behaviour
Armando D'Elia
Naturalist, chemist, expert in vegetarian dietetics. Honorary President of AVI Scientific Committee
Human beings use large numbers of animals for the food value of their meat proteins.
The effects of these proteins can undoubtedly be seen in aggression, violence, hatred
and moral insensitivity: we can therefore say that meat has a negative effect on human
behaviour. The vegetarian, on the other hand, builds the foundations for an attitude of tolerance,
gentleness, sociability and a spirit of sharing. Experts speaking out against the use of meat
proteins can now call on support from the chemistry of neurotransmitters and from neurobiology,
two scientific disciplines that explain how such foods cause certain human behaviours.
As a result we can now act with greater certainty in our food choices, which to prefer and which to avoid.
Among other things, we should reject the idea that violence is innate in humans: no-one is born aggressive or evil, but we can become so by eating meat.

Consequences of Meat Protein on Human Behaviour
Animal proteins listed on labels as "meat" come from the muscular tissue of land-based
vertebrates, whose carcasses are used by human beings for food. To be specific, the animals are:
cattle (oxen, buffalo, bison); deer (including roebucks, fallow deer, reindeer); camels, elks,
dromedaries; goats, sheep; donkeys, horses; hares, rabbits; hedgehogs, hippopotamuses, kangaroos;
and swine (pigs, wild boars). Humans also eat the flesh of marine vertebrates: fish - we should not
forget that fish is really a kind of meat - and other aquatic animals (whales, frogs). And there is also
meat from different types of birds (poultry, ducks, turkeys, ostriches, various gamebirds).
But the meateater also cruelly kills and eats many invertebrates such as: molluscs (octopuses, cuttlefish,
squids, limpets, snails, oysters, mussels, razor and other clams, etc); shellfish (freshwater crayfish,
European lobsters, lobsters, Dublin Bay prawns, crabs, squills, spiny spider crabs); echinoderms (sea-urchins, holothurian trepangs).

All these proteins taken from the animal world means an absolute bloodbath, and it is not only
unnecessary and morally repugnant, but also responsible for physical diseases brought on by toxaemia,
even including cancer, and psychological disorders brought on by the influence towards aggression.
What we understand by the word "meat" is muscle tissue, which always contains saturated fats,
the worst for human health. Meateaters also eat liver, pancreas, thymus, saliva glands, kidney or brain -
organs not made up of muscle tissue; additionally meateaters eat tripe, which is part of the
complex stomach of ruminants; also many types of sausages, such as cooked pressed pork, spiced pork,
baloney, ham, salami, frankfurters, stuffed pig's trotters, and so on. And meateaters eat tongue
or bovine tail muscles, or sausage or dried salted beef or bacon, and so on, not to mention caviar,
mullet roe, or, as in China, dogmeat, or offal or calf's intestines.

In short, a terrible massacre, a real holocaust
Eating such enormous quantities of animal proteins has a profound effect on human behaviour.
Generally in nature carnivorous animals are fierce and aggressive, while non-carnivorous ones are peaceful
and sociable. Another thing that can easily be seen is the gradual reduction in aggression in human
beings as they move from a diet containing large amounts of meat towards one excluding high protein foods,
especially meat. It is also well known that dogs, although carnivorous in nature, keep guard and
attack strangers more effectively if they are fed larger than normal meat rations.

Similarly, in wartime, when men are to take part in highly risky military action, they have to be given
large meat rations, so that the meat is used as a drug to develop aggression, violence and moral insensitivity.

In Homer's Iliad, for example, the warriors have meat-based banquets between one battle and the next.
Seneca used to point out that among the big meateaters you could find tyrants, organisers of massacres,
feuds and fratricidal wars, instigators of murder, slave-traders, while those who fed on the fruits of the
earth behaved gently. Liebig tells how the bear in Giesen zoo became extremely restless and dangerous
if forced to eat meat instead of vegetable food.

We can say, then, that physical hygiene means mental hygiene, as J. Dalemont maintains when describing
the history of human diet in his work A Manual Of Mental Hygiene.
The slogan "meat means energy" is used by those who want to justify meateating, because this society,
based on competition, free and unfettered competition and social climbing, demands we wear an aggressive
scowl which will help us get on in the world, win our life struggles.

These brief sociobiological references already allow us to state with certainty that meat has a negative
effect on human behaviour. We can say this because, as everyone can see, human beings are readily
influenced by environmental factors, especially diet, an important truth encapsulated by the great Ludwig
Feuerbach way back in 1855, when he famously said, "Der Mann ist vas er isst." ("Man is what he eats.")
But, more than a century earlier, in 1728, a distinguished Italian expert, Bartolomeo Beccari (doctor, chemist,
and chemistry teacher at Bologna University) delivered the judgement, "Quid alius sumus, nisi it unde alimur?"
("What else are we, if not what we eat?") so expressing what Feuerbach would say much later.
It was not by chance that both these great thinkers were vegetarians. Beccari, among other things,
discovered gluten and isovalencies between animal and vegetable proteins. Man is not just an alimentary
canal to fill with various foods, but a thinking being
hose brain, like any other part of the body, must be nourished with the material necessary for
its metabolism that is delivered by the blood stream. And since most of the food we eat is
produced by a food industry concerned only with profit, without regard for our real dietary needs,
we can say that, just as orthodox medicine is conditioned and financed by the
pharmaceutical industry, so what is referred to as "the science of nutrition" is very much in the hands of the chemicalised food industry.

This is an industry that mainly seeks to sell "junk foods", especially those based on meat proteins,
with the powerful assistance of the media. Uncritical acceptance of the activities of the food industry
eads inevitably to violent behaviour towards our fellow humans and other living creatures because of
the aggression induced by carcass food. As far back as 20 centuries ago, the great Juvenal (Satires X, 512),
had pronounced on the close link between health of mind and body, with his eternal saying,
"Mens sana in corpore sano." ("A healthy mind in a healthy body.")
A healthy mind, then, requires a healthy body, which means that we should make bodily health a priority.

Much later, in the 17th century, another authoritative voice, the British philosopher, John Locke, in his work
Some Thoughts Concerning Education (1693), stressed the validity of Juvenal's saying about the health of the mind depending on that of the body.

So it is that we see the great importance of vegetarianism, which detoxifies the body and purifies the blood supply to the brain.
Consequently we are capable of more lucid and penetrating thought, leading to a real opening of the mind,
with increased powers of self-control and ability to withstand intellectual and physical work, initiating an attitude
of tolerance, gentleness, openness to peaceful dialogue and solutions of disputes, to love, sociability and sharing.

Electrical activity in the brain as shown by EEGs has shown that the vegetarian diet induces alpha waves,
which indicate a state of neuromuscular relaxation not just of the brain but of the whole body.
Leadbeater maintains that this scientific research proves the beneficial action of vegetarianism on behaviour,
in that it promotes a sense of wellbeing "analogous to the state of meditation on the most profound truths".

This is why through the centuries the most intelligent, the most cultured, the most open, the most
tolerant people in the world have been vegetarians, in all fields of knowledge: in science, philosophy, art, literature, medicine, and so on.
It is clear, then, that the blood supply to the brain carries with it the meat catabolites, the brain's
physiology is affected, and in the behaviour we will note -
I repeat - intolerance, the tendency to quarrelsomeness and aggression: hatred instead of love;
separation, antisocial behaviour and violence
instead of convivialityand togetherness. In this way humans get stuck in antisocial attitudes
and fierce individualism, and those who want power need only divide and rule.

Those in power know how to use the weapon of food to influence human
behaviour towards what is most convenient for their purposes, and so
they do all they can to encourage us to eat dead, poisoned, intoxicating foods, especially meat.
Ultimately the target is the brain, which they want to render incapable of
understanding. In conclusion, while vegetarianism favours the highest cognitive faculties, carcasses
depress them, encouraging behaviours damaging to the individual
and society, and reduce serotonin levels. A meal high in meat proteins reduces tryptophane levels
in the brain, and so leads to aggression, anxiety and propensity to fighting;
whereas the more we rely on the fruits of the earth and follow vegetarian principles,
the more positive our behaviour. Our choice of food, then, influences our behaviour and emotions.

This is what Dr Rossi says, and experimental confirmation for this has come from John Fernstrom
and Richard Hurthman, biologists in the Department of Nutrition and Dietary Sciences at the
Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Serotonin in fact has a particular capacity to cause sleepiness.

Some "nutritionists" against vegetarianism (for various reasons, permissible or secret) maintain
that aggression is not caused by meat proteins, but rather innate in humans, a ridiculous
assertion, since no-one is born aggressive and bad, but may become so under the influence of meat.
The well known anthropologist, Luigi Lombardi Satriani, says that it is just an excuse for us to blame
aggression on nature, an excuse we as a society use to escape our responsibilities. No-one is born bad,
otherwise aggression would be universal, which anthropology shows to be wrong. In fact, societies
with absolutely non-violent cultures have existed and still do. For example, certain tribes in
Africa or groups of Indians in north-west Brazil or the Piaroa Indians in Venezuela, have built
very peaceful societies, based on cooperation, without a trace of aggression in their children's upbringing,
and the children's games reflect the balanced lifestyle, since they consist of dancing, singing and love.
Hatred is unknown, and it is common knowledge that these people are vegetarians.
Do we need better evidence that diet influences the character?

We should not forget that the powerful used to like to flaunt their supposed superiority by
ostentatiously eating meat, since they believed that meat, a dietary symbol of violence,
was a badge to show that they belonged to the strong. But in order to eat meat
there needs to have been an earlier violent act, culminating in the killing of an animal,
so that meateating, based on murder as it is, is inevitably associated with violence
and brute force, whereas vegetarianism is based on the stability, tranquillity and serenity
of the vegetable world which, in its powerful nobility, draws life and strength from
Mother Earth to give it to humanity. Professor Carlo Sirtori, a distinguished clinician and
scientist, has brought to light how meateating leads to aggression in humans, because
phosphorus and calcium are to be found in meat in a ratio of 50:1. Meateating leads to
a phosphorus excess which is not natural for humans, whose milk has a 1:2 phosphorus-calcium ratio.
Sirtori comments that this fact leads to a fall in calcium levels, leading to irritable and aggressive behaviour,
and sometimes convulsions in small children.

During the Gulf War in 1992, US marines getting ready to go into action were supplied with
50,000 turkeys in addition to the normal, abundant meat rations. The reason:
"They are soldiers and have to eat a lot of meat." In other words: "They have to attack, and meat helps make them aggressive."
I will end my speech by quoting the well-known words of the philosopher, Jacopo Moleschott, which confirms meat's aggressive influence:
"As long as the Irishman is fed with potatoes, he will be subjugated by the Englishman eating steak and roast beef."

- translations by Hugh Rees, Milan - commissioned by Associazione Vegetariana Italiana (AVI)
http://www.purifymind.com/MeatProtein.htm

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HEY IT'S NOT JUST ME!

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Meat-eating Christians are like white supremacists! Let me show you what I mean:

In a 1989 interview with the now-defunct Animals' Agenda, Reverend Andrew Linzey, an Anglican priest and the foremost theologian in the field of animal-human relations, drew a parallel between animal and human slavery, saying that history is repeating itself with regard to animals:

"Now, just think of the difficulties that those early Christian abolitionists had to face. Scripture defended slavery. For instance, in Leviticus 25, you're commanded to take the child of a stranger as a slave...St. Paul simply said that those who were Christian slaves should be better Christians.

"Almost unanimously, apart from St. Gregory, the church fathers defended slavery, and for almost 1800 years, Christians defended and supported slavery."

On the other hand, in a 1991 essay, "The Bible and Killing for Food," Reverend Linzey writes:

"...it often comes as a surprise for Christians to realize that the modern vegetarian movement was strongly biblical in origin. Inspired by the original command in Genesis 1, an Anglican priest, William Cowherd, founded the Bible Christian Church in 1809 and made vegetarianism compulsory among its members.

"The founding of this Church in the United Kingdom and its sister Church in the United States by William Metcalfe, effectively heralded the beginning of the modern vegetarian movement.")

The church of the past never considered human slavery to be a moral evil. The Protestant churches of Virginia, South Carolina, and other southern states, actually passed resolutions in favor of the human slave traffic.

Human slavery was called "by Divine Appointment," "a Divine institution," "a moral relation," "God’s institution," "not immoral," but "founded in right." The slave trade was called "legal," "licit," "in accordance with humane principles" and "the laws of revealed religion."

New Testament verses calling for obedience and subservience on the part of slaves (Titus 2:9-10, Ephesians 6:5-9, Colossians 3:22-25, I Peter 2:18-25) and respect for the master (I Timothy 6:1-2, Ephesians 6:5-9) were often cited in order to justify human slavery. Some of Jesus’ parables refer to human slaves. Paul’s epistle to Philemon concerns a runaway slave returned to his master.

Quoting Isaiah 61:1, Luke 4:18, Colossians 3:11 or Galatians 3:28 as verses in favor of abolition in the 18th or 19th century would have been met with the kind of reaction animal activists receive today when citing biblical verses in favor of vegetarianism and the compassionate and humane treatment of animals.

The Quakers were one of the earliest Christian denominations to condemn (human) slavery.

"Paul's outright endorsement of slavery should be an undying embarrassment to Christianity as long as they hold the entire New Testament to be the word of God," wrote Quaker physician Dr. Charles P. Vaclavik in his 1986 book, The Vegetarianism of Jesus Christ: the Pacifism, Communalism, and Vegetarianism of Primitive Christianity.

"Without a doubt, the American slaveholders quoted Paul again and again to substantiate their right to hold slaves.

"The moralist movement to abolish slavery had to go to non-biblical sources to demonstrate the immoral nature of slavery. The abolitionists could not turn to Christian sources to condemn slavery, for Christianity had become the bastion of the evil practice through its endorsement by the Apostle Paul.

"Only the Old Testament gave the abolitionist any Biblical support in his effort to free the slaves. ‘You shall not surrender to his master a slave who has taken refuge with you.’ (Deuteronomy 23-15) What a pittance of material opposing slavery from a book supposedly representing the word of God."

In 1852 Josiah Priest wrote Bible Defense of Slavery. Others claimed blacks were subhuman. Buckner H. Payne, calling himself "Ariel," wrote in 1867, "the tempter in the Garden of Eden...was a beast, a talking beast ... the negro."

Ariel argued that since the negro was not part of Noah’s family, he must have been a beast. Eight souls were saved on the ark, therefore, the negro must be a beast, and "consequently he has no soul to be saved."

I commented in a letter to my local newspaper, The Tri-Valley Herald, in early 1992 that it remains to be seen if organized religion will support animal rights or simply remain an obstacle to social and moral progress.

"Simply!" say conservative Christians.

I point out, that was George Wallace's philosophy, too, proclaiming, "Segregation Now. Segregation Forever," in 1963.

"Forever!" they respond.

But when I put two and two together, and say offhandedly, "Meat-eating Christians are like white supremacists," suddenly their "tough" veneer and thin veneer of religiosity disappear, and their feelings are hurt!

http://www.all-creatures.org/murti/art-meat-eating-supremacists.html

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Some other people advocate similar calculus....

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MEAT: Root Cause of Endless War, Distinct Threat to Humanity

It takes nearly one gallon of fossil fuel and 2,500 gallons of water to produce just one pound of conventionally fed beef. (Mother Jones)

The Worldwatch Institute estimates one pound of steak from a steer raised in a feedlot costs: five pounds of grain, a whopping 2,500 gallons of water, the energy equivalent of a gallon of gasoline, and about 34 pounds of topsoil.

Thirty-three percent of our nation's raw materials and fossil fuels go into livestock destined for slaughter. In a vegan economy, only two percent of our resources will go to the production of food.

One-third of all raw materials in the U.S. are consumed by the livestock industry and it takes thrice as much fossil fuel energy to produce meat than it does to produce plant foods.

A report on the energy crisis in Scientific American warned: "The trends in meat consumption and energy consumption are on a collision course."

Livestock production affects a startling 70 to 85 percent of the land area of the United States, United Kingdom, and the European Union. That includes the public and private rangeland used for grazing, as well as the land used to produce the crops that feed the animals.

By comparison, urbanization only affects three percent of the United States land area, slightly larger for the European Union and the United Kingdom. Meat production consumes the world's land resources.

Half of all fresh water worldwide is used for thirsty livestock. Producing eight ounces of beef requires an unimaginable 25,000 liters of water, or the water necessary for one pound of steak equals the water consumption of the average household for a year.

"It seems disingenuous for the intellectual elite of the first world to dwell on the subject of too many babies being born in the second- and third-world nations while virtually ignoring the overpopulation of cattle and the realities of a food chain that robs the poor of sustenance to feed the rich a steady diet of grain-fed meat."

--Jeremy Rifkin, pro-life AND pro-animal author, Beyond Beef: The Rise and Fall of the Cattle Culture, and president of the Greenhouse Crisis Foundation

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I'm wary of the claim by many on the political left that we'd all be at peace, holding hands, singing "Kumbaya," etc. if it weren't for the terrible world leaders plotting to wage war at every turn, and using innocent citizens as pawns in a global chess game. War and abortion are the karma for killing animals.

The institutionalized killing of billions of animals has led to global hunger, global warming, the energy, environmental, population and water crises. Why is it so hard to accept that there's a slippery slope, a connection between the killing of animals and the killing of human beings?

"Who loves this terrible thing called war?" asked Isadora Duncan. "Probably the meat-eaters, having killed, feel the need to kill... The butcher with his bloody apron incites bloodshed, murder. Why not? From cutting the throat of a young calf to cutting the throats of our brothers and sisters is but a step. While we ourselves are living graves of murdered animals, how can we expect any ideal conditions on the earth?"

"I personally believe," wrote Isaac Bashevis Singer, "that as long as human beings will go on shedding the blood of animals, there will never be any peace. There is only one little step from killing animals to creating gas chambers a' la Hitler and concentration camps a' la Stalin -- all such deeds are done in the name of 'social justice.' There will be no justice as long as man will stand with a knife or with a gun and destroy those who are weaker than he is."

In his 1979 book, Vegetarianism: A Way of Life, author Dudley Giehl writes:

"Competition for food has inevitably led to conflict and this struggle for survival has been a significant factor in the history of organized warfare. In this respect, meat-eating may be regarded as either the underlying cause of armed conflict or at least one of several factors contributing to the exacerbation of a pre-existing problem. The reason why meat, in particular, has created such problems is that the practice of raising livestock requires a much greater use of resources. The basic problem is simply that people are forced to compete with animals for food--a most precarious situation when food is in short supply."

Many of us believe that hunger exists because there's not enough food to go around. But as Frances Moore Lappe and her anti-hunger organization Food First! have shown, the real cause of hunger is a scarcity of justice, not a scarcity of food.

In country after country the pattern is repeated. Livestock industries are consuming feed to such an extent that now almost all Third World nations must import grain. Seventy-five percent of Third World imports of corn, barley, sorghum, and oats are fed to animals, not to people. In country after country, the demand for meat among the rich is Squeezing out staple production for the poor.

The same trend can be found in the Middle East and North Africa--increases in grain-fed livestock require more imported feed. Twenty years ago, Egypt was self-sufficient in grain. Then, livestock ate only 10 percent of the nation's grain. Today, livestock consume 36 percent of Egypt's grain. As a result, Egypt must now import eight million tons of grain every year.

Twenty-five years ago, Syria was a barley exporter. But in the intervening years, livestock has consumed increasing amounts of the country's grain. Now, despite a phenomenal 1,000 percent increase in the land area devoted to producing barley, Syria must import the cereal.

Because of its reliance on livestock agriculture, Israel's economy depends heavily on groundwater use. You can't make the desert bloom through sheer hard work; it requires water. Today Israel is heavily dependent on water from the West Bank, and the Israeli press is full of talk of retaining the West Bank in order to protect water supplies from encroaching Arab wells. One analyst gloomily concludes that the water in the West Bank region--which the Israelis captured from the Arabs in the 1967 war--is "fast becoming the most ominous obstacle to any peaceful settlement in the region."

Any economy that relies on meat production is in serious trouble. Any social system which persists in putting an emphasis on meat production will be progressively weakened until it as destroyed or until its policies are changed. The amount of time which will pass before a serious social disaster sets in, of course, will vary from region to region. In the case of the United States, which still has abundant agriculture resources, there are probably many decades left. In the case of Africa, the disaster is there today.

Regardless of social system or ideology, any country that emphasizes meat production is going to make its food situation worse. In the richer nations, food may simply become somewhat more costly. If the livestock industry is subsidized by the government--as is the case in both the United States and the former Soviet Union--then other areas of the economy may suffer, as they are sacrificed go keep agriculture afloat. In the poorer nations, food may become unavailable to many and starvation may result.

In Ethiopia and Mozambique, we have two cases of very poor countries which have relied heavily on livestock agriculture with tragic results. In both countries, thousands have died and tens of thousands more are in danger of dying. In both countries, livestock agriculture has played a key role in crippling the ability of the food system to produce food. Ecological disaster is not new in Africa. Northern Africa, once the granary of the Roman Empire, was reduced to a barren wasteland by the pastoral nomads which entered the area after the Empire's collapse. The march of the Sahara desert southward, preceded by large herds of livestock animals, has been observed for decades. Numerous independent observers have confirmed that soil erosion today is rampant in Africa. The destruction has been savage. Fifty years ago, 40% of Ethiopia was covered with trees, while only 2% to 4% is covered with trees today.

So the famine in Ethiopia during the 1980s should not have been a surprise. Many blamed the drought, the civil war, or governmental incompetence in pushing the country over the edge into starvation; and certainly these factors played a role. but we cannot ignore the ecological realities which are the underlying conditions responsible for Ethiopia's getting to the brink of disaster in the first place. Overgrazing by cattle has played a key role in Ethiopia's decline.

Incredibly, while the people are starving, Ethiopia today has a larger livestock population than any other country in Africa, though it is only ninth in total land area!

Similar problems have affected Mozambique. Here we have a country which recently liberated itself from colonialism. Yet Mozambique then proceeded to import beef from abroad to satisfy the demands of the urban elite for meat. Perhaps even worse, they are intensifying their production of corn--one of the most erosive of all plant foods--and feeding it to their cattle! This is a recipe for disaster and a most depressing pattern throughout many third world countries. They throw out colonialism, but they keep or even intensify the colonial system of food production.

Eastern Europe and the former Soviet Union are also experiencing serious problems related to meat production. In Poland, prior to the worker's riots in 1979 over rising meat prices, the per capita meat consumption was nearly as high as it was in the United States. In 1979 the government allowed the price of meat to rise, and the workers expressed their intense dissatisfaction.

Meat consumption has placed a severe strain on the Polish economy; the Polish economy simply cannot sustain the level of meat consumption which approaches the "American" level. The Commonwealth of Independent States' well-publicized agricultural difficulties only arise because it tries to feed its citizens a Western-type diet high in meat and animal products. The former Soviet Union would not have the slightest difficulty in feeding itself from its own resources, but grain has to be imported for their cattle.

Most news reports on shortages and hunger in the former Soviet Union emphasize the lack of meat, which is really an unnecessary luxury and not a necessity. Meat consumption has severely aggravated the country's problems. In 1991, Worldwatch noted: "Since 1950, meat consumption has tripled and feed consumption quadrupled. Use of grain for feed surpassed direct human consumption in 1964 and has been rising ever since. Soviet livestock now eat three times as much grain as Soviet Citizens. Grain imports have soared, going from near zero in 1970 to twenty-four million tons in 1990, and the USSR is now the world's second largest grain importer."

Development funds have irrigated the desert in Senegal so that multinational firms can grow eggplant and mangos for air-freighting to Europe's best tables. In Haiti, the majority of peasants struggle for survival by trying to grow food on mountain slopes of a 45 degree incline or more. They say they are exiles from their birthright--some of the world's richest agricultural land. These lands now belong to a handful of elite; cattle are flown in by U.S. firms for grazing and re-exported to franchised hamburger restaurants.

Throughout Latin America, land availability is a prominent social issue. Revolutionaries as well as reform-minded moderates have made land reform a major issue. Yet in many Latin American countries, forests are being leveled in order to create pastures for cattle grazing land. In a region where land availability is a central social issue, existing land is being gobbled up by livestock agriculture. The resulting social tensions have resulted in civil wars, repression and violence.

And what about the United States? Half the water consumed in the U.S. goes to irrigate land growing feed and fodder for livestock. Huge amounts of water are also used to wash away their excrement. In fact, U.S. livestock produce twenty times as much excrement as does the entire human population, creating sewage which is ten to several hundred times more concentrated than raw domestic sewage. Animal wastes cause ten times more water pollution than does the U.S. human population; the meat industry causes three times more harmful organic water pollution than the rest of the nation's industries combined.

Meat producers are the number one industrial polluters in our nation, contributing to half the water pollution in the United States. The water that goes into a thousand-pound steer could float a destroyer. It takes twenty-five gallons of water to produce a pound of wheat, but twenty-five hundred gallons to produce a pound of meat. If these costs weren't subsidized by the American taxpayers, hamburger meat would be $35 per pound!

The burden of subsidizing the California meat industry costs taxpayers $24 billion. Livestock producers are California's biggest consumers of water. Every tax dollar the state doles out to livestock producers costs taxpayers over seven dollars in lost wages, higher living costs and reduced business income. Seventeen western states have enough water supplies to support economies and populations twice as large as the present.

Overgrazing of cattle leads to topsoil erosion, turning once-arable land into desert. We lose four million acres of topsoil each year and eighty-five percent of this loss is directly caused by raising livestock. To replace the soil we've lost, we're destroying our forests. Since 1967, the rate of deforestation in the U. S. has been one acre every five seconds. For each acre cleared in urbanization, seven are cleared for grazing or growing livestock feed.

One-third of all raw materials in the U.S. are consumed by the livestock industry and it takes thrice the fossil fuel energy to produce meat than it does to produce plant foods. A report on the energy crisis in Scientific American warned: "The trends in meat consumption and energy consumption are on a collision course."

According to Howard Lyman, former senior lobbyist for the National Farmers Union, "Family farmers are victims of public policy that gives preference to feeding animals over feeding people. This has encouraged the cheap grain policy of this nation and has made the beef cartel the biggest hog at the trough."

The Bible contains numerous examples of conflict situations that are directly attributable to the practice of raising livestock, including contested water rights, bitter competition for grazing areas, and friction between agriculturalists and nomadic herdsmen. The more settled agricultural communities deeply resented the intrusion of nomadic tribes with their large herds of cattle, sheep, and goats. These animals were considered a menace. Aside from the threat to the crops themselves, large herds of livestock caused much damage to the general quality of the land as a result of over grazing.
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It was ostensibly for this reason that the Philistines, whose primary agricultural pursuits were corn and orchards, sought to discourage nomadic herdsmen from using their territory by filling in many of the wells in the surrounding area. One of the earliest accounts of strife among the herdsmen themselves is found in the story of Lot and Abram:

"And Lot also, which went with Abram, had flocks, and herds, and tents. And the land was not able to bear them, that they might dwell together; for their substance was great, so that they could not dwell together. And there was a strife between the herdmen of Abram's cattle and the herdmen of Lot's cattle." (Genesis 13:5-7)

Abram moved Westward to a region known as Canaan, while Lot journeyed to the east, finally settling in Sodom. Such peaceful agreements, however, were not always possible. There are several references in the Bible to clashes between the Israelites and Midianites. The Midianites were wealthy Bedouin traders who owned large numbers of livestock, as did the Israelites, who brought their herds with them when they left Egypt.

Livestock require vast areas of land for grazing. They also need water, which has never been abundant in that region of the world. The strain thus placed on the land's resources is mentioned in Judges 6:4: "And they encamped against them, and destroyed the increase of the earth."

The depletion of resources created by the people arid livestock moving into this territory is described in Judges 6:5 by a singularly appropriate simile: "For they came up with their cattle and their tents, and they came as grasshoppers." Another passage informs us that after a particularly vicious battle with the Midianites the Israelites augmented their herds with the livestock of their slain captives. This included 675,000 sheep and more than 72,000 beeves.

A strikingly frank reference to the casual relationship between flesh eating and war, in terms of land use, is found in Deuteronomy 12:20: "When the Lord thy God shall enlarge thy border, as he hath promised thee, and thou shalt say, 'I will eat flesh,' because thy soul longeth to eat flesh; thou mayest eat flesh, whatsoever thy soul lusteth after."

A similar straightforward reference to the relationship between flesh eating and war can be found in Plato's Republic. In a dialogue with Glaucon, Socrates extols the peace and happiness what come to people eating a vegetarian diet: "And with such a diet they may be expected to live in peace and health to a good old age, and bequeath a similar life to their children after them."

Glaucon remains skeptical that people would be satisfied with such fare. He asserts that people will desire the "ordinary conveniences of life," including animal flesh. Socrates then proceeds to stock the once ideal state with swineherds, huntsmen, and "cattle in great number." The dialogue continues:

"...and there will be animal's of many other kinds, if people eat them?"

"Certainly."

"And living in this way we shall have much greater need of physicians than before? "

"Much greater."

"And the country which was enough to support the original inhabitants will be too small now, and not enough?"

"Quite true."

"Then a slice of our neighbor's land will be wanted by us for pasture and tillage, and they will want a slice of ours, if, like ourselves, they exceed the limit of necessity, and give themselves up to the unlimited accumulation of wealth?"

"That, Socrates, will be inevitable."

"And so we shall go to war, Glaucon. Shall we not?"

"Most certainly," Glaucon replies.

Critics of Plato, reading the rest of the Republic, have complained that what Plato gives us is a militaristic or proto-fascist state, with censorship and a rigidly controlled economy. Plato would hardly disagree with these critics; what they have overlooked is that the state which he describes is not his idea--it is merely a consequence of Glaucon's requirements which Socrates himself disavows. Greed for meat, among other things, produced the character of the second state Plato describes.

The history of the European spice trade would seem to suggest that there is indeed a relationship between war and large-scale consumer demand for foods not required by what Plato refers to as "natural want." Spices were of vital importance to meat preparation before the process of mechanical refrigeration was developed in the 20th century, meat was usually preserved by the process of salting. Using various combinations of spices to offset the saltiness of meat, thus making it palatable, became a popular practice in medieval Europe.

The demand for spices was a significant factor in European colonial endeavors. Competition intensified, contributing to the exacerbation of serious disputes that already existed among various European nations. Efforts in the 17th and 18th centuries by the Dutch, Portuguese, English and French to expand their spice trade resulted in warfare, as well as the subjugation of native peoples by these imperialist powers.

Shepherds have traditionally been depicted in both art and religious and secular literature as a peaceable lot. However, there were inevitable disputes between farmers and shepherds over territorial rights. This situation was aggravated by the fact that sheep posed an even greater threat to the land than cattle because they clipped grass closer to the ground, sometimes tearing it out by the roots. The Spanish sheepowner's guild known as the Mesta dominated Spain's political affairs for several centuries (AD 1200-1500) and was the source of much internal strife within that country.

The Mesta's sheep not only destroyed pastureland by overgrazing but were also allowed to rampage through cultivated fields. The peasant farmers could hardly expect the monarchy to rectify this injustice since sheep raising dominated medieval Spanish commerce and was the government's principal source of revenue during this period.

There was considerable animosity among shepherds, cattlemen and crop farmers in 19th-century America. The Homestead Act of 1862 encouraged more people to settle in the West. The very nature of livestock raising in the United States at that time required vast areas of land for grazing and moving the animals along designated trails to their final destinations. Hence the proliferation of farming communities became a serious threat to the livestock industry. This situation became worse when the farmers put up barbed-wire fences, a practice that began in the 1880s.

Aside from the conflict between livestock herders and farmers, there were bitter feuds between cattlemen and sheepmen, including such conflicts as the "Tonto Basin War" in Arizona, the "Holbrook War" in Montana, the "Blue Mountain War" in Colorado and the "Big Horn Basin Feud" in Montana.

We are presently confronted with a rather precarious situation in which a few select regions of the world are the principal suppliers of various commodities that are essential to the entire process of food production. The Middle East region, for example, dominates the world petroleum market. Petroleum is needed to power farm machinery in addition to its use as a fertilizer base. Despite the relatively large amount of petroleum produced in the United States, this country is, nonetheless, highly dependent on Middle East oil.

U.S. Secretary of State Henry Kissinger commented in 1975 that military intervention "could not be ruled out" in the event of another Arab oil embargo. His comment indicates the extent of American dependency on Arab oil and the desperate lengths the U. S. government will go to obtain it. The "Carter Doctrine" of 1980, concerning the use of tactics nuclear weapons in the Middle East by the United States and the Persian Gulf War of 1991 reiterate American dependence upon a highly unstable part of the globe.

Morocco is the leading producer of phosphate, an important element in fertilizer production. Within the period of a few years in the early 1970s, Morocco more than quadrupled its price for phosphate. The large world demand for phosphate prompted Morocco to invade the Spanish Sahara when the Spanish relinquished control of the region in 1975. A guerilla force of Saharan nationals found themselves battling the Moroccan aggressors, whose sole interest in the region was its phosphate reserves.

The United States is fond of using its position as a major food exporter to manipulate the policies of foreign governments. The most striking example of this practice is the successful American "destabilization" effort in Chile in the early 1970s. A project initiated by the American Central Intelligence Agency to create dissatisfaction among Chilean truckers resulted in widespread food shortages. The Allende regime was then rebuffed in its attempts to make a cash purchase of vitally needed U S wheat. However, in less than a month after a successful Chilean coup that was abetted by the U S government, the new fascist regime was given a large shipment of American wheat on generous credit terms despite Chile's unstable economy.

A report prepared in August, 1974, by the American Central Intelligence Agency cites several ominous trends in weather conditions and population growth.

The authors of this report indicate there is substantial evidence to support the belief that food shortages will become more acute as the result of a major cooling trend. As a result, such a situation "could give the United States a measure of power it had never had before--possibly an economic and political dominance greater than that of the immediate post-World War II years." The study warns, however, that countries adversely affected by these weather changes may resort to desperate measures, including "nuclear blackmail" and "massive migration backed by force."

The report concludes that we have the potential to compensate for future large-scale famines that may be far worse than the present food crisis. It is duly noted that if the anticipated marked and persistent cooling trend occurs there would not be enough food to feed the world's population "unless the affluent nations make a quick and drastic cut in their consumption of grain-fed animals."

Vegetarian author Laurel Robertson writes that "The relationship between meat consumption and available grain is...more sensitive than we might think... In 1974, when the market for meat did fall, the grain that was so unexpectedly released actually did find its way to poorer countries."

Vegan author John Robbins writes in his 1987 Pulitzer Prize nominated Diet for a New America:

"Meat-eating contributes to the fear in the world by putting us in a position in which there is not enough to go around (half the world's grain is fed to livestock). But that's not all. Meat-eaters ingest residues of the animal's biochemical response to the horrors of the slaughterhouse.

"Programmed to fight or flee when in danger for their lives, the animals react to the slaughterhouse in sheer terror. Powerful biochemical agents are secreted that pump through their bloodstreams and onto their flesh, energizing them to fight or flee for their lives. Today's slaughterhouses virtually guarantee that the animals will die in terror."

The Maoris would eat the flesh of a slaughtered enemy in order to possess the enemy's courage and strength. The people of the lower Nubia, likewise, would eat the fox, believing that by so doing, they would be possessed of his cunning. In upper Egypt, the heart of the hoopoe bird was eaten in order to acquire the ability to become a clever scribe. The bird would be caught and its heart would be torn out and eaten while it was still alive.

John Robbins notes, "certain Native American tribes would not eat the flesh of an animal who died in fear, because they did not want to take into themselves the terror of such an animal. When we eat animals who have died violent deaths we literally eat their fear.

"We take in biochemical agents designed by nature to tell an animal that its life is in the gravest danger, and it must either fight or flee for its life. And then, in our wars and our daily lives, we give expression to the panic in which the animals we have eaten died."

Vegan author John Robbins writes in his Pulitzer Prize nominated Diet for a New America (1987):

"The way we treat animals is indicative of the way we treat our fellow humans. One Soviet study, published in Ogonyok, found that over 87% of a group of violent criminals has, as children, burned, hanged, or stabbed domestic animals. In our own country, a major study by Dr. Stephen Kellert of Yale University found that children who abuse animals have a much higher likelihood of becoming violent criminals."

A 1997 study by the Massachusetts Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (MSPCA) reported that children convicted of animal abuse are five times more likely to commit violence against other humans than are their peers, and four times more likely to be involved in acts against property.

Rachel Carson, author of Silent Spring, which launched the modern day environmental movement, wrote:

"Until we have the courage to recognize cruelty for what it is whether its victim is human or animal we cannot expect things to be much better in this world. We cannot have peace among men whose hearts delight in killing any living creature. By every act that glorifies or even tolerates such moronic delight in killing we set back the progress of humanity."

In a December 1990 letter to Eric Mills of Action For Animals, vegan labor leader Cesar Chavez similarly wrote:

"Kindness and compassion towards all living things is a mark of a civilized society. Conversely, cruelty, whether it is directed against human beings or against animals, is not the exclusive province of any one culture or community of people. Racism, economic deprival, dog fighting and cockfighting, bullfighting and rodeos are cut from the same fabric: violence. Only when we have become nonviolent towards all life will we have learned to live well ourselves."

Marjorie Spiegel, author of The Dreaded Comparison: Human and Animal Slavery, writes: "All oppression and violence is intimately and ultimately linked, and to think that we can end prejudice and violence to one group without ending prejudice and violence to another is utter folly."

Apart from the violence against animals involved in meat-eating, foods DO affect one's consciousness! The ill effects of alcohol, opium, morphine, nicotine, etc. upon individual users have been well-documented. The Federal Bureau of Investigation reports that 60 to 75 percent of all violent crime is alcohol-related. Might there be a similar relationship between meat-eating and aggressive behavior?

In a letter to a friend on the subject of vegetarianism, Albert Einstein wrote, "besides agreeing with your aims for aesthetic and moral reasons, it is my view that a vegetarian manner of living by its purely physical effect on the human temperament would most beneficially influence the lot of mankind."

U Nu, the former Prime Minister of Burma, made a similar observation: "World peace, or any other kind of peace, depends greatly on the attitude of the mind. Vegetarianism can bring about the right mental attitude for peace... it holds forth a better way of life, which, if practiced universally, can lead to a better, more just, and more peaceful community of nations."
http://www.all-creatures.org/murti/art-meat.html

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During thousands and hundreds of years,
the hatreds and viciousness in meats
in people's dining utensils,
are as deep as sea,
and are hardly to cease.
If one wants to know why there are wars in the world,
just listen to the thrilling screams
from a slaughter house

This is a well-known Buddhist poem, which reveals the connection between Meat-eating and War.

Meat-eating causes hatred, and hatred may cause war.

The hatreds arouse when an animal is killed, and when someone eats that animal's meat, the hatreds,
and the thoughts of vengeance, will enter the eater's body together with the meat.

Those hatreds and thoughts of vengeance can accumulate in one's body, making him become more
and more depressed, dislike others, easy to be angry, easy to conflict with others, etc. and when a
large number of people (e.g. people in a nation) are dominated by these emotions, that may cause war.

Those hatreds and thoughts of vengeance will pollute and block one's heart, make his heart closed,
as hard as stone, and become a great obstruction against enlightenment. A philosopher with evil inclination,
who preaches the doctrines that supports violence, massacre, and anti-religion behaviors, may emerge under such a circumstance.

If one can renounce meat-eating, those pollutions will not continue to accumulate in his body and on his heart,
but those pollutions will not be cleansed automatically. One also need to renounce killing, and practice some
Dharmas (e.g. some Dharanis, mantras, repentances, etc ) which can cleanse those negative karmas.

For example, the Vajra-sattva Heart Mantra, Ksitigarbha Bodhisattva Sutra, Great Compassion Dharani,
Great Compassion Repentance, Shurangama Mantra, Six Words Great Enlightening Dharani, etc. are very
powerful and efficient for bad karma cleansing. Their Dharma-streams can wash your heart, soften your heart,
make your heart open for enlightenment, and make you an inartificial virtuous person.

http://www.fodian.net/world/meat.war.html

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Consequences of Meat Protein on Human Behaviour
Armando D'Elia
Naturalist, chemist, expert in vegetarian dietetics. Honorary President of AVI Scientific Committee
Human beings use large numbers of animals for the food value of their meat proteins.
The effects of these proteins can undoubtedly be seen in aggression, violence, hatred
and moral insensitivity: we can therefore say that meat has a negative effect on human
behaviour. The vegetarian, on the other hand, builds the foundations for an attitude of tolerance,
gentleness, sociability and a spirit of sharing. Experts speaking out against the use of meat
proteins can now call on support from the chemistry of neurotransmitters and from neurobiology,
two scientific disciplines that explain how such foods cause certain human behaviours.
As a result we can now act with greater certainty in our food choices, which to prefer and which to avoid.
Among other things, we should reject the idea that violence is innate in humans: no-one is born aggressive or evil, but we can become so by eating meat.

Consequences of Meat Protein on Human Behaviour
Animal proteins listed on labels as "meat" come from the muscular tissue of land-based
vertebrates, whose carcasses are used by human beings for food. To be specific, the animals are:
cattle (oxen, buffalo, bison); deer (including roebucks, fallow deer, reindeer); camels, elks,
dromedaries; goats, sheep; donkeys, horses; hares, rabbits; hedgehogs, hippopotamuses, kangaroos;
and swine (pigs, wild boars). Humans also eat the flesh of marine vertebrates: fish - we should not
forget that fish is really a kind of meat - and other aquatic animals (whales, frogs). And there is also
meat from different types of birds (poultry, ducks, turkeys, ostriches, various gamebirds).
But the meateater also cruelly kills and eats many invertebrates such as: molluscs (octopuses, cuttlefish,
squids, limpets, snails, oysters, mussels, razor and other clams, etc); shellfish (freshwater crayfish,
European lobsters, lobsters, Dublin Bay prawns, crabs, squills, spiny spider crabs); echinoderms (sea-urchins, holothurian trepangs).

All these proteins taken from the animal world means an absolute bloodbath, and it is not only
unnecessary and morally repugnant, but also responsible for physical diseases brought on by toxaemia,
even including cancer, and psychological disorders brought on by the influence towards aggression.
What we understand by the word "meat" is muscle tissue, which always contains saturated fats,
the worst for human health. Meateaters also eat liver, pancreas, thymus, saliva glands, kidney or brain -
organs not made up of muscle tissue; additionally meateaters eat tripe, which is part of the
complex stomach of ruminants; also many types of sausages, such as cooked pressed pork, spiced pork,
baloney, ham, salami, frankfurters, stuffed pig's trotters, and so on. And meateaters eat tongue
or bovine tail muscles, or sausage or dried salted beef or bacon, and so on, not to mention caviar,
mullet roe, or, as in China, dogmeat, or offal or calf's intestines.

In short, a terrible massacre, a real holocaust
Eating such enormous quantities of animal proteins has a profound effect on human behaviour.
Generally in nature carnivorous animals are fierce and aggressive, while non-carnivorous ones are peaceful
and sociable. Another thing that can easily be seen is the gradual reduction in aggression in human
beings as they move from a diet containing large amounts of meat towards one excluding high protein foods,
especially meat. It is also well known that dogs, although carnivorous in nature, keep guard and
attack strangers more effectively if they are fed larger than normal meat rations.

Similarly, in wartime, when men are to take part in highly risky military action, they have to be given
large meat rations, so that the meat is used as a drug to develop aggression, violence and moral insensitivity.

In Homer's Iliad, for example, the warriors have meat-based banquets between one battle and the next.
Seneca used to point out that among the big meateaters you could find tyrants, organisers of massacres,
feuds and fratricidal wars, instigators of murder, slave-traders, while those who fed on the fruits of the
earth behaved gently. Liebig tells how the bear in Giesen zoo became extremely restless and dangerous
if forced to eat meat instead of vegetable food.

We can say, then, that physical hygiene means mental hygiene, as J. Dalemont maintains when describing
the history of human diet in his work A Manual Of Mental Hygiene.
The slogan "meat means energy" is used by those who want to justify meateating, because this society,
based on competition, free and unfettered competition and social climbing, demands we wear an aggressive
scowl which will help us get on in the world, win our life struggles.

These brief sociobiological references already allow us to state with certainty that meat has a negative
effect on human behaviour. We can say this because, as everyone can see, human beings are readily
influenced by environmental factors, especially diet, an important truth encapsulated by the great Ludwig
Feuerbach way back in 1855, when he famously said, "Der Mann ist vas er isst." ("Man is what he eats.")
But, more than a century earlier, in 1728, a distinguished Italian expert, Bartolomeo Beccari (doctor, chemist,
and chemistry teacher at Bologna University) delivered the judgement, "Quid alius sumus, nisi it unde alimur?"
("What else are we, if not what we eat?") so expressing what Feuerbach would say much later.
It was not by chance that both these great thinkers were vegetarians. Beccari, among other things,
discovered gluten and isovalencies between animal and vegetable proteins. Man is not just an alimentary
canal to fill with various foods, but a thinking being
hose brain, like any other part of the body, must be nourished with the material necessary for
its metabolism that is delivered by the blood stream. And since most of the food we eat is
produced by a food industry concerned only with profit, without regard for our real dietary needs,
we can say that, just as orthodox medicine is conditioned and financed by the
pharmaceutical industry, so what is referred to as "the science of nutrition" is very much in the hands of the chemicalised food industry.

This is an industry that mainly seeks to sell "junk foods", especially those based on meat proteins,
with the powerful assistance of the media. Uncritical acceptance of the activities of the food industry
eads inevitably to violent behaviour towards our fellow humans and other living creatures because of
the aggression induced by carcass food. As far back as 20 centuries ago, the great Juvenal (Satires X, 512),
had pronounced on the close link between health of mind and body, with his eternal saying,
"Mens sana in corpore sano." ("A healthy mind in a healthy body.")
A healthy mind, then, requires a healthy body, which means that we should make bodily health a priority.

Much later, in the 17th century, another authoritative voice, the British philosopher, John Locke, in his work
Some Thoughts Concerning Education (1693), stressed the validity of Juvenal's saying about the health of the mind depending on that of the body.

So it is that we see the great importance of vegetarianism, which detoxifies the body and purifies the blood supply to the brain.
Consequently we are capable of more lucid and penetrating thought, leading to a real opening of the mind,
with increased powers of self-control and ability to withstand intellectual and physical work, initiating an attitude
of tolerance, gentleness, openness to peaceful dialogue and solutions of disputes, to love, sociability and sharing.

Electrical activity in the brain as shown by EEGs has shown that the vegetarian diet induces alpha waves,
which indicate a state of neuromuscular relaxation not just of the brain but of the whole body.
Leadbeater maintains that this scientific research proves the beneficial action of vegetarianism on behaviour,
in that it promotes a sense of wellbeing "analogous to the state of meditation on the most profound truths".

This is why through the centuries the most intelligent, the most cultured, the most open, the most
tolerant people in the world have been vegetarians, in all fields of knowledge: in science, philosophy, art, literature, medicine, and so on.
It is clear, then, that the blood supply to the brain carries with it the meat catabolites, the brain's
physiology is affected, and in the behaviour we will note -
I repeat - intolerance, the tendency to quarrelsomeness and aggression: hatred instead of love;
separation, antisocial behaviour and violence
instead of convivialityand togetherness. In this way humans get stuck in antisocial attitudes
and fierce individualism, and those who want power need only divide and rule.

Those in power know how to use the weapon of food to influence human
behaviour towards what is most convenient for their purposes, and so
they do all they can to encourage us to eat dead, poisoned, intoxicating foods, especially meat.
Ultimately the target is the brain, which they want to render incapable of
understanding. In conclusion, while vegetarianism favours the highest cognitive faculties, carcasses
depress them, encouraging behaviours damaging to the individual
and society, and reduce serotonin levels. A meal high in meat proteins reduces tryptophane levels
in the brain, and so leads to aggression, anxiety and propensity to fighting;
whereas the more we rely on the fruits of the earth and follow vegetarian principles,
the more positive our behaviour. Our choice of food, then, influences our behaviour and emotions.

This is what Dr Rossi says, and experimental confirmation for this has come from John Fernstrom
and Richard Hurthman, biologists in the Department of Nutrition and Dietary Sciences at the
Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Serotonin in fact has a particular capacity to cause sleepiness.

Some "nutritionists" against vegetarianism (for various reasons, permissible or secret) maintain
that aggression is not caused by meat proteins, but rather innate in humans, a ridiculous
assertion, since no-one is born aggressive and bad, but may become so under the influence of meat.
The well known anthropologist, Luigi Lombardi Satriani, says that it is just an excuse for us to blame
aggression on nature, an excuse we as a society use to escape our responsibilities. No-one is born bad,
otherwise aggression would be universal, which anthropology shows to be wrong. In fact, societies
with absolutely non-violent cultures have existed and still do. For example, certain tribes in
Africa or groups of Indians in north-west Brazil or the Piaroa Indians in Venezuela, have built
very peaceful societies, based on cooperation, without a trace of aggression in their children's upbringing,
and the children's games reflect the balanced lifestyle, since they consist of dancing, singing and love.
Hatred is unknown, and it is common knowledge that these people are vegetarians.
Do we need better evidence that diet influences the character?

We should not forget that the powerful used to like to flaunt their supposed superiority by
ostentatiously eating meat, since they believed that meat, a dietary symbol of violence,
was a badge to show that they belonged to the strong. But in order to eat meat
there needs to have been an earlier violent act, culminating in the killing of an animal,
so that meateating, based on murder as it is, is inevitably associated with violence
and brute force, whereas vegetarianism is based on the stability, tranquillity and serenity
of the vegetable world which, in its powerful nobility, draws life and strength from
Mother Earth to give it to humanity. Professor Carlo Sirtori, a distinguished clinician and
scientist, has brought to light how meateating leads to aggression in humans, because
phosphorus and calcium are to be found in meat in a ratio of 50:1. Meateating leads to
a phosphorus excess which is not natural for humans, whose milk has a 1:2 phosphorus-calcium ratio.
Sirtori comments that this fact leads to a fall in calcium levels, leading to irritable and aggressive behaviour,
and sometimes convulsions in small children.

During the Gulf War in 1992, US marines getting ready to go into action were supplied with
50,000 turkeys in addition to the normal, abundant meat rations. The reason:
"They are soldiers and have to eat a lot of meat." In other words: "They have to attack, and meat helps make them aggressive."
I will end my speech by quoting the well-known words of the philosopher, Jacopo Moleschott, which confirms meat's aggressive influence:
"As long as the Irishman is fed with potatoes, he will be subjugated by the Englishman eating steak and roast beef."

- translations by Hugh Rees, Milan - commissioned by Associazione Vegetariana Italiana (AVI)
http://www.purifymind.com/MeatProtein.htm

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HEY IT'S NOT JUST ME!

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Meat-eating Christians are like white supremacists! Let me show you what I mean:

In a 1989 interview with the now-defunct Animals' Agenda, Reverend Andrew Linzey, an Anglican priest and the foremost theologian in the field of animal-human relations, drew a parallel between animal and human slavery, saying that history is repeating itself with regard to animals:

"Now, just think of the difficulties that those early Christian abolitionists had to face. Scripture defended slavery. For instance, in Leviticus 25, you're commanded to take the child of a stranger as a slave...St. Paul simply said that those who were Christian slaves should be better Christians.

"Almost unanimously, apart from St. Gregory, the church fathers defended slavery, and for almost 1800 years, Christians defended and supported slavery."

On the other hand, in a 1991 essay, "The Bible and Killing for Food," Reverend Linzey writes:

"...it often comes as a surprise for Christians to realize that the modern vegetarian movement was strongly biblical in origin. Inspired by the original command in Genesis 1, an Anglican priest, William Cowherd, founded the Bible Christian Church in 1809 and made vegetarianism compulsory among its members.

"The founding of this Church in the United Kingdom and its sister Church in the United States by William Metcalfe, effectively heralded the beginning of the modern vegetarian movement.")

The church of the past never considered human slavery to be a moral evil. The Protestant churches of Virginia, South Carolina, and other southern states, actually passed resolutions in favor of the human slave traffic.

Human slavery was called "by Divine Appointment," "a Divine institution," "a moral relation," "God’s institution," "not immoral," but "founded in right." The slave trade was called "legal," "licit," "in accordance with humane principles" and "the laws of revealed religion."

New Testament verses calling for obedience and subservience on the part of slaves (Titus 2:9-10, Ephesians 6:5-9, Colossians 3:22-25, I Peter 2:18-25) and respect for the master (I Timothy 6:1-2, Ephesians 6:5-9) were often cited in order to justify human slavery. Some of Jesus’ parables refer to human slaves. Paul’s epistle to Philemon concerns a runaway slave returned to his master.

Quoting Isaiah 61:1, Luke 4:18, Colossians 3:11 or Galatians 3:28 as verses in favor of abolition in the 18th or 19th century would have been met with the kind of reaction animal activists receive today when citing biblical verses in favor of vegetarianism and the compassionate and humane treatment of animals.

The Quakers were one of the earliest Christian denominations to condemn (human) slavery.

"Paul's outright endorsement of slavery should be an undying embarrassment to Christianity as long as they hold the entire New Testament to be the word of God," wrote Quaker physician Dr. Charles P. Vaclavik in his 1986 book, The Vegetarianism of Jesus Christ: the Pacifism, Communalism, and Vegetarianism of Primitive Christianity.

"Without a doubt, the American slaveholders quoted Paul again and again to substantiate their right to hold slaves.

"The moralist movement to abolish slavery had to go to non-biblical sources to demonstrate the immoral nature of slavery. The abolitionists could not turn to Christian sources to condemn slavery, for Christianity had become the bastion of the evil practice through its endorsement by the Apostle Paul.

"Only the Old Testament gave the abolitionist any Biblical support in his effort to free the slaves. ‘You shall not surrender to his master a slave who has taken refuge with you.’ (Deuteronomy 23-15) What a pittance of material opposing slavery from a book supposedly representing the word of God."

In 1852 Josiah Priest wrote Bible Defense of Slavery. Others claimed blacks were subhuman. Buckner H. Payne, calling himself "Ariel," wrote in 1867, "the tempter in the Garden of Eden...was a beast, a talking beast ... the negro."

Ariel argued that since the negro was not part of Noah’s family, he must have been a beast. Eight souls were saved on the ark, therefore, the negro must be a beast, and "consequently he has no soul to be saved."

I commented in a letter to my local newspaper, The Tri-Valley Herald, in early 1992 that it remains to be seen if organized religion will support animal rights or simply remain an obstacle to social and moral progress.

"Simply!" say conservative Christians.

I point out, that was George Wallace's philosophy, too, proclaiming, "Segregation Now. Segregation Forever," in 1963.

"Forever!" they respond.

But when I put two and two together, and say offhandedly, "Meat-eating Christians are like white supremacists," suddenly their "tough" veneer and thin veneer of religiosity disappear, and their feelings are hurt!

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MEAT: Root Cause of Endless War, Distinct Threat to Humanity

It takes nearly one gallon of fossil fuel and 2,500 gallons of water to produce just one pound of conventionally fed beef. (Mother Jones)

The Worldwatch Institute estimates one pound of steak from a steer raised in a feedlot costs: five pounds of grain, a whopping 2,500 gallons of water, the energy equivalent of a gallon of gasoline, and about 34 pounds of topsoil.

Thirty-three percent of our nation's raw materials and fossil fuels go into livestock destined for slaughter. In a vegan economy, only two percent of our resources will go to the production of food.

One-third of all raw materials in the U.S. are consumed by the livestock industry and it takes thrice as much fossil fuel energy to produce meat than it does to produce plant foods.

A report on the energy crisis in Scientific American warned: "The trends in meat consumption and energy consumption are on a collision course."

Livestock production affects a startling 70 to 85 percent of the land area of the United States, United Kingdom, and the European Union. That includes the public and private rangeland used for grazing, as well as the land used to produce the crops that feed the animals.

By comparison, urbanization only affects three percent of the United States land area, slightly larger for the European Union and the United Kingdom. Meat production consumes the world's land resources.

Half of all fresh water worldwide is used for thirsty livestock. Producing eight ounces of beef requires an unimaginable 25,000 liters of water, or the water necessary for one pound of steak equals the water consumption of the average household for a year.

"It seems disingenuous for the intellectual elite of the first world to dwell on the subject of too many babies being born in the second- and third-world nations while virtually ignoring the overpopulation of cattle and the realities of a food chain that robs the poor of sustenance to feed the rich a steady diet of grain-fed meat."

--Jeremy Rifkin, pro-life AND pro-animal author, Beyond Beef: The Rise and Fall of the Cattle Culture, and president of the Greenhouse Crisis Foundation

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I'm wary of the claim by many on the political left that we'd all be at peace, holding hands, singing "Kumbaya," etc. if it weren't for the terrible world leaders plotting to wage war at every turn, and using innocent citizens as pawns in a global chess game. War and abortion are the karma for killing animals.

The institutionalized killing of billions of animals has led to global hunger, global warming, the energy, environmental, population and water crises. Why is it so hard to accept that there's a slippery slope, a connection between the killing of animals and the killing of human beings?

"Who loves this terrible thing called war?" asked Isadora Duncan. "Probably the meat-eaters, having killed, feel the need to kill... The butcher with his bloody apron incites bloodshed, murder. Why not? From cutting the throat of a young calf to cutting the throats of our brothers and sisters is but a step. While we ourselves are living graves of murdered animals, how can we expect any ideal conditions on the earth?"

"I personally believe," wrote Isaac Bashevis Singer, "that as long as human beings will go on shedding the blood of animals, there will never be any peace. There is only one little step from killing animals to creating gas chambers a' la Hitler and concentration camps a' la Stalin -- all such deeds are done in the name of 'social justice.' There will be no justice as long as man will stand with a knife or with a gun and destroy those who are weaker than he is."

In his 1979 book, Vegetarianism: A Way of Life, author Dudley Giehl writes:

"Competition for food has inevitably led to conflict and this struggle for survival has been a significant factor in the history of organized warfare. In this respect, meat-eating may be regarded as either the underlying cause of armed conflict or at least one of several factors contributing to the exacerbation of a pre-existing problem. The reason why meat, in particular, has created such problems is that the practice of raising livestock requires a much greater use of resources. The basic problem is simply that people are forced to compete with animals for food--a most precarious situation when food is in short supply."

Many of us believe that hunger exists because there's not enough food to go around. But as Frances Moore Lappe and her anti-hunger organization Food First! have shown, the real cause of hunger is a scarcity of justice, not a scarcity of food.

In country after country the pattern is repeated. Livestock industries are consuming feed to such an extent that now almost all Third World nations must import grain. Seventy-five percent of Third World imports of corn, barley, sorghum, and oats are fed to animals, not to people. In country after country, the demand for meat among the rich is Squeezing out staple production for the poor.

The same trend can be found in the Middle East and North Africa--increases in grain-fed livestock require more imported feed. Twenty years ago, Egypt was self-sufficient in grain. Then, livestock ate only 10 percent of the nation's grain. Today, livestock consume 36 percent of Egypt's grain. As a result, Egypt must now import eight million tons of grain every year.

Twenty-five years ago, Syria was a barley exporter. But in the intervening years, livestock has consumed increasing amounts of the country's grain. Now, despite a phenomenal 1,000 percent increase in the land area devoted to producing barley, Syria must import the cereal.

Because of its reliance on livestock agriculture, Israel's economy depends heavily on groundwater use. You can't make the desert bloom through sheer hard work; it requires water. Today Israel is heavily dependent on water from the West Bank, and the Israeli press is full of talk of retaining the West Bank in order to protect water supplies from encroaching Arab wells. One analyst gloomily concludes that the water in the West Bank region--which the Israelis captured from the Arabs in the 1967 war--is "fast becoming the most ominous obstacle to any peaceful settlement in the region."

Any economy that relies on meat production is in serious trouble. Any social system which persists in putting an emphasis on meat production will be progressively weakened until it as destroyed or until its policies are changed. The amount of time which will pass before a serious social disaster sets in, of course, will vary from region to region. In the case of the United States, which still has abundant agriculture resources, there are probably many decades left. In the case of Africa, the disaster is there today.

Regardless of social system or ideology, any country that emphasizes meat production is going to make its food situation worse. In the richer nations, food may simply become somewhat more costly. If the livestock industry is subsidized by the government--as is the case in both the United States and the former Soviet Union--then other areas of the economy may suffer, as they are sacrificed go keep agriculture afloat. In the poorer nations, food may become unavailable to many and starvation may result.

In Ethiopia and Mozambique, we have two cases of very poor countries which have relied heavily on livestock agriculture with tragic results. In both countries, thousands have died and tens of thousands more are in danger of dying. In both countries, livestock agriculture has played a key role in crippling the ability of the food system to produce food. Ecological disaster is not new in Africa. Northern Africa, once the granary of the Roman Empire, was reduced to a barren wasteland by the pastoral nomads which entered the area after the Empire's collapse. The march of the Sahara desert southward, preceded by large herds of livestock animals, has been observed for decades. Numerous independent observers have confirmed that soil erosion today is rampant in Africa. The destruction has been savage. Fifty years ago, 40% of Ethiopia was covered with trees, while only 2% to 4% is covered with trees today.

So the famine in Ethiopia during the 1980s should not have been a surprise. Many blamed the drought, the civil war, or governmental incompetence in pushing the country over the edge into starvation; and certainly these factors played a role. but we cannot ignore the ecological realities which are the underlying conditions responsible for Ethiopia's getting to the brink of disaster in the first place. Overgrazing by cattle has played a key role in Ethiopia's decline.

Incredibly, while the people are starving, Ethiopia today has a larger livestock population than any other country in Africa, though it is only ninth in total land area!

Similar problems have affected Mozambique. Here we have a country which recently liberated itself from colonialism. Yet Mozambique then proceeded to import beef from abroad to satisfy the demands of the urban elite for meat. Perhaps even worse, they are intensifying their production of corn--one of the most erosive of all plant foods--and feeding it to their cattle! This is a recipe for disaster and a most depressing pattern throughout many third world countries. They throw out colonialism, but they keep or even intensify the colonial system of food production.

Eastern Europe and the former Soviet Union are also experiencing serious problems related to meat production. In Poland, prior to the worker's riots in 1979 over rising meat prices, the per capita meat consumption was nearly as high as it was in the United States. In 1979 the government allowed the price of meat to rise, and the workers expressed their intense dissatisfaction.

Meat consumption has placed a severe strain on the Polish economy; the Polish economy simply cannot sustain the level of meat consumption which approaches the "American" level. The Commonwealth of Independent States' well-publicized agricultural difficulties only arise because it tries to feed its citizens a Western-type diet high in meat and animal products. The former Soviet Union would not have the slightest difficulty in feeding itself from its own resources, but grain has to be imported for their cattle.

Most news reports on shortages and hunger in the former Soviet Union emphasize the lack of meat, which is really an unnecessary luxury and not a necessity. Meat consumption has severely aggravated the country's problems. In 1991, Worldwatch noted: "Since 1950, meat consumption has tripled and feed consumption quadrupled. Use of grain for feed surpassed direct human consumption in 1964 and has been rising ever since. Soviet livestock now eat three times as much grain as Soviet Citizens. Grain imports have soared, going from near zero in 1970 to twenty-four million tons in 1990, and the USSR is now the world's second largest grain importer."

Development funds have irrigated the desert in Senegal so that multinational firms can grow eggplant and mangos for air-freighting to Europe's best tables. In Haiti, the majority of peasants struggle for survival by trying to grow food on mountain slopes of a 45 degree incline or more. They say they are exiles from their birthright--some of the world's richest agricultural land. These lands now belong to a handful of elite; cattle are flown in by U.S. firms for grazing and re-exported to franchised hamburger restaurants.

Throughout Latin America, land availability is a prominent social issue. Revolutionaries as well as reform-minded moderates have made land reform a major issue. Yet in many Latin American countries, forests are being leveled in order to create pastures for cattle grazing land. In a region where land availability is a central social issue, existing land is being gobbled up by livestock agriculture. The resulting social tensions have resulted in civil wars, repression and violence.

And what about the United States? Half the water consumed in the U.S. goes to irrigate land growing feed and fodder for livestock. Huge amounts of water are also used to wash away their excrement. In fact, U.S. livestock produce twenty times as much excrement as does the entire human population, creating sewage which is ten to several hundred times more concentrated than raw domestic sewage. Animal wastes cause ten times more water pollution than does the U.S. human population; the meat industry causes three times more harmful organic water pollution than the rest of the nation's industries combined.

Meat producers are the number one industrial polluters in our nation, contributing to half the water pollution in the United States. The water that goes into a thousand-pound steer could float a destroyer. It takes twenty-five gallons of water to produce a pound of wheat, but twenty-five hundred gallons to produce a pound of meat. If these costs weren't subsidized by the American taxpayers, hamburger meat would be $35 per pound!

The burden of subsidizing the California meat industry costs taxpayers $24 billion. Livestock producers are California's biggest consumers of water. Every tax dollar the state doles out to livestock producers costs taxpayers over seven dollars in lost wages, higher living costs and reduced business income. Seventeen western states have enough water supplies to support economies and populations twice as large as the present.

Overgrazing of cattle leads to topsoil erosion, turning once-arable land into desert. We lose four million acres of topsoil each year and eighty-five percent of this loss is directly caused by raising livestock. To replace the soil we've lost, we're destroying our forests. Since 1967, the rate of deforestation in the U. S. has been one acre every five seconds. For each acre cleared in urbanization, seven are cleared for grazing or growing livestock feed.

One-third of all raw materials in the U.S. are consumed by the livestock industry and it takes thrice the fossil fuel energy to produce meat than it does to produce plant foods. A report on the energy crisis in Scientific American warned: "The trends in meat consumption and energy consumption are on a collision course."

According to Howard Lyman, former senior lobbyist for the National Farmers Union, "Family farmers are victims of public policy that gives preference to feeding animals over feeding people. This has encouraged the cheap grain policy of this nation and has made the beef cartel the biggest hog at the trough."

The Bible contains numerous examples of conflict situations that are directly attributable to the practice of raising livestock, including contested water rights, bitter competition for grazing areas, and friction between agriculturalists and nomadic herdsmen. The more settled agricultural communities deeply resented the intrusion of nomadic tribes with their large herds of cattle, sheep, and goats. These animals were considered a menace. Aside from the threat to the crops themselves, large herds of livestock caused much damage to the general quality of the land as a result of over grazing.
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It was ostensibly for this reason that the Philistines, whose primary agricultural pursuits were corn and orchards, sought to discourage nomadic herdsmen from using their territory by filling in many of the wells in the surrounding area. One of the earliest accounts of strife among the herdsmen themselves is found in the story of Lot and Abram:

"And Lot also, which went with Abram, had flocks, and herds, and tents. And the land was not able to bear them, that they might dwell together; for their substance was great, so that they could not dwell together. And there was a strife between the herdmen of Abram's cattle and the herdmen of Lot's cattle." (Genesis 13:5-7)

Abram moved Westward to a region known as Canaan, while Lot journeyed to the east, finally settling in Sodom. Such peaceful agreements, however, were not always possible. There are several references in the Bible to clashes between the Israelites and Midianites. The Midianites were wealthy Bedouin traders who owned large numbers of livestock, as did the Israelites, who brought their herds with them when they left Egypt.

Livestock require vast areas of land for grazing. They also need water, which has never been abundant in that region of the world. The strain thus placed on the land's resources is mentioned in Judges 6:4: "And they encamped against them, and destroyed the increase of the earth."

The depletion of resources created by the people arid livestock moving into this territory is described in Judges 6:5 by a singularly appropriate simile: "For they came up with their cattle and their tents, and they came as grasshoppers." Another passage informs us that after a particularly vicious battle with the Midianites the Israelites augmented their herds with the livestock of their slain captives. This included 675,000 sheep and more than 72,000 beeves.

A strikingly frank reference to the casual relationship between flesh eating and war, in terms of land use, is found in Deuteronomy 12:20: "When the Lord thy God shall enlarge thy border, as he hath promised thee, and thou shalt say, 'I will eat flesh,' because thy soul longeth to eat flesh; thou mayest eat flesh, whatsoever thy soul lusteth after."

A similar straightforward reference to the relationship between flesh eating and war can be found in Plato's Republic. In a dialogue with Glaucon, Socrates extols the peace and happiness what come to people eating a vegetarian diet: "And with such a diet they may be expected to live in peace and health to a good old age, and bequeath a similar life to their children after them."

Glaucon remains skeptical that people would be satisfied with such fare. He asserts that people will desire the "ordinary conveniences of life," including animal flesh. Socrates then proceeds to stock the once ideal state with swineherds, huntsmen, and "cattle in great number." The dialogue continues:

"...and there will be animal's of many other kinds, if people eat them?"

"Certainly."

"And living in this way we shall have much greater need of physicians than before? "

"Much greater."

"And the country which was enough to support the original inhabitants will be too small now, and not enough?"

"Quite true."

"Then a slice of our neighbor's land will be wanted by us for pasture and tillage, and they will want a slice of ours, if, like ourselves, they exceed the limit of necessity, and give themselves up to the unlimited accumulation of wealth?"

"That, Socrates, will be inevitable."

"And so we shall go to war, Glaucon. Shall we not?"

"Most certainly," Glaucon replies.

Critics of Plato, reading the rest of the Republic, have complained that what Plato gives us is a militaristic or proto-fascist state, with censorship and a rigidly controlled economy. Plato would hardly disagree with these critics; what they have overlooked is that the state which he describes is not his idea--it is merely a consequence of Glaucon's requirements which Socrates himself disavows. Greed for meat, among other things, produced the character of the second state Plato describes.

The history of the European spice trade would seem to suggest that there is indeed a relationship between war and large-scale consumer demand for foods not required by what Plato refers to as "natural want." Spices were of vital importance to meat preparation before the process of mechanical refrigeration was developed in the 20th century, meat was usually preserved by the process of salting. Using various combinations of spices to offset the saltiness of meat, thus making it palatable, became a popular practice in medieval Europe.

The demand for spices was a significant factor in European colonial endeavors. Competition intensified, contributing to the exacerbation of serious disputes that already existed among various European nations. Efforts in the 17th and 18th centuries by the Dutch, Portuguese, English and French to expand their spice trade resulted in warfare, as well as the subjugation of native peoples by these imperialist powers.

Shepherds have traditionally been depicted in both art and religious and secular literature as a peaceable lot. However, there were inevitable disputes between farmers and shepherds over territorial rights. This situation was aggravated by the fact that sheep posed an even greater threat to the land than cattle because they clipped grass closer to the ground, sometimes tearing it out by the roots. The Spanish sheepowner's guild known as the Mesta dominated Spain's political affairs for several centuries (AD 1200-1500) and was the source of much internal strife within that country.

The Mesta's sheep not only destroyed pastureland by overgrazing but were also allowed to rampage through cultivated fields. The peasant farmers could hardly expect the monarchy to rectify this injustice since sheep raising dominated medieval Spanish commerce and was the government's principal source of revenue during this period.

There was considerable animosity among shepherds, cattlemen and crop farmers in 19th-century America. The Homestead Act of 1862 encouraged more people to settle in the West. The very nature of livestock raising in the United States at that time required vast areas of land for grazing and moving the animals along designated trails to their final destinations. Hence the proliferation of farming communities became a serious threat to the livestock industry. This situation became worse when the farmers put up barbed-wire fences, a practice that began in the 1880s.

Aside from the conflict between livestock herders and farmers, there were bitter feuds between cattlemen and sheepmen, including such conflicts as the "Tonto Basin War" in Arizona, the "Holbrook War" in Montana, the "Blue Mountain War" in Colorado and the "Big Horn Basin Feud" in Montana.

We are presently confronted with a rather precarious situation in which a few select regions of the world are the principal suppliers of various commodities that are essential to the entire process of food production. The Middle East region, for example, dominates the world petroleum market. Petroleum is needed to power farm machinery in addition to its use as a fertilizer base. Despite the relatively large amount of petroleum produced in the United States, this country is, nonetheless, highly dependent on Middle East oil.

U.S. Secretary of State Henry Kissinger commented in 1975 that military intervention "could not be ruled out" in the event of another Arab oil embargo. His comment indicates the extent of American dependency on Arab oil and the desperate lengths the U. S. government will go to obtain it. The "Carter Doctrine" of 1980, concerning the use of tactics nuclear weapons in the Middle East by the United States and the Persian Gulf War of 1991 reiterate American dependence upon a highly unstable part of the globe.

Morocco is the leading producer of phosphate, an important element in fertilizer production. Within the period of a few years in the early 1970s, Morocco more than quadrupled its price for phosphate. The large world demand for phosphate prompted Morocco to invade the Spanish Sahara when the Spanish relinquished control of the region in 1975. A guerilla force of Saharan nationals found themselves battling the Moroccan aggressors, whose sole interest in the region was its phosphate reserves.

The United States is fond of using its position as a major food exporter to manipulate the policies of foreign governments. The most striking example of this practice is the successful American "destabilization" effort in Chile in the early 1970s. A project initiated by the American Central Intelligence Agency to create dissatisfaction among Chilean truckers resulted in widespread food shortages. The Allende regime was then rebuffed in its attempts to make a cash purchase of vitally needed U S wheat. However, in less than a month after a successful Chilean coup that was abetted by the U S government, the new fascist regime was given a large shipment of American wheat on generous credit terms despite Chile's unstable economy.

A report prepared in August, 1974, by the American Central Intelligence Agency cites several ominous trends in weather conditions and population growth.

The authors of this report indicate there is substantial evidence to support the belief that food shortages will become more acute as the result of a major cooling trend. As a result, such a situation "could give the United States a measure of power it had never had before--possibly an economic and political dominance greater than that of the immediate post-World War II years." The study warns, however, that countries adversely affected by these weather changes may resort to desperate measures, including "nuclear blackmail" and "massive migration backed by force."

The report concludes that we have the potential to compensate for future large-scale famines that may be far worse than the present food crisis. It is duly noted that if the anticipated marked and persistent cooling trend occurs there would not be enough food to feed the world's population "unless the affluent nations make a quick and drastic cut in their consumption of grain-fed animals."

Vegetarian author Laurel Robertson writes that "The relationship between meat consumption and available grain is...more sensitive than we might think... In 1974, when the market for meat did fall, the grain that was so unexpectedly released actually did find its way to poorer countries."

Vegan author John Robbins writes in his 1987 Pulitzer Prize nominated Diet for a New America:

"Meat-eating contributes to the fear in the world by putting us in a position in which there is not enough to go around (half the world's grain is fed to livestock). But that's not all. Meat-eaters ingest residues of the animal's biochemical response to the horrors of the slaughterhouse.

"Programmed to fight or flee when in danger for their lives, the animals react to the slaughterhouse in sheer terror. Powerful biochemical agents are secreted that pump through their bloodstreams and onto their flesh, energizing them to fight or flee for their lives. Today's slaughterhouses virtually guarantee that the animals will die in terror."

The Maoris would eat the flesh of a slaughtered enemy in order to possess the enemy's courage and strength. The people of the lower Nubia, likewise, would eat the fox, believing that by so doing, they would be possessed of his cunning. In upper Egypt, the heart of the hoopoe bird was eaten in order to acquire the ability to become a clever scribe. The bird would be caught and its heart would be torn out and eaten while it was still alive.

John Robbins notes, "certain Native American tribes would not eat the flesh of an animal who died in fear, because they did not want to take into themselves the terror of such an animal. When we eat animals who have died violent deaths we literally eat their fear.

"We take in biochemical agents designed by nature to tell an animal that its life is in the gravest danger, and it must either fight or flee for its life. And then, in our wars and our daily lives, we give expression to the panic in which the animals we have eaten died."

Vegan author John Robbins writes in his Pulitzer Prize nominated Diet for a New America (1987):

"The way we treat animals is indicative of the way we treat our fellow humans. One Soviet study, published in Ogonyok, found that over 87% of a group of violent criminals has, as children, burned, hanged, or stabbed domestic animals. In our own country, a major study by Dr. Stephen Kellert of Yale University found that children who abuse animals have a much higher likelihood of becoming violent criminals."

A 1997 study by the Massachusetts Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (MSPCA) reported that children convicted of animal abuse are five times more likely to commit violence against other humans than are their peers, and four times more likely to be involved in acts against property.

Rachel Carson, author of Silent Spring, which launched the modern day environmental movement, wrote:

"Until we have the courage to recognize cruelty for what it is whether its victim is human or animal we cannot expect things to be much better in this world. We cannot have peace among men whose hearts delight in killing any living creature. By every act that glorifies or even tolerates such moronic delight in killing we set back the progress of humanity."

In a December 1990 letter to Eric Mills of Action For Animals, vegan labor leader Cesar Chavez similarly wrote:

"Kindness and compassion towards all living things is a mark of a civilized society. Conversely, cruelty, whether it is directed against human beings or against animals, is not the exclusive province of any one culture or community of people. Racism, economic deprival, dog fighting and cockfighting, bullfighting and rodeos are cut from the same fabric: violence. Only when we have become nonviolent towards all life will we have learned to live well ourselves."

Marjorie Spiegel, author of The Dreaded Comparison: Human and Animal Slavery, writes: "All oppression and violence is intimately and ultimately linked, and to think that we can end prejudice and violence to one group without ending prejudice and violence to another is utter folly."

Apart from the violence against animals involved in meat-eating, foods DO affect one's consciousness! The ill effects of alcohol, opium, morphine, nicotine, etc. upon individual users have been well-documented. The Federal Bureau of Investigation reports that 60 to 75 percent of all violent crime is alcohol-related. Might there be a similar relationship between meat-eating and aggressive behavior?

In a letter to a friend on the subject of vegetarianism, Albert Einstein wrote, "besides agreeing with your aims for aesthetic and moral reasons, it is my view that a vegetarian manner of living by its purely physical effect on the human temperament would most beneficially influence the lot of mankind."

U Nu, the former Prime Minister of Burma, made a similar observation: "World peace, or any other kind of peace, depends greatly on the attitude of the mind. Vegetarianism can bring about the right mental attitude for peace... it holds forth a better way of life, which, if practiced universally, can lead to a better, more just, and more peaceful community of nations."
http://www.all-creatures.org/murti/art-meat.html

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[bhaktajan]

Circumstantial evidence is used in civil courts to establish or refute liability.
It is usually the most common form of evidence, for example in product liability cases and road traffic accidents.
Forensic analysis of skid marks can frequently allow a reconstruction of the accident.
By measuring the length of such marks and using ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumstantial_evidence

Circumstantial evidence
Circumstantial evidence is evidence that relies on an inference to connect it to a conclusion of fact—like a fingerprint at the scene of a crime. By contrast, directevidence supports the truth of an assertion directly—i.e., without need for any additional evidence or inference. --Wiki

Practitioners sometimes reflexively think of circumstantial evidence as a lesser form of proof than direct evidence.
But it is not treated that way by law or even necessarily by juries. As the Court of Appeals has recognized,
“[c]ircumstantial proof is … as probative as direct evidence and may even be more ...
https://www.law.com/newyorklawjournal/sites/newyorklawjournal/2017/11/27/circumstantial-evidence-an-important-source-of-proof/

[bhaktajan]

Some one called me a Militant Vegan.

That's wrong. I am a vegetarian [no meat, fish nor eggs] but I eat cheese and milk---so I am not vegan.

Militant =
Adjective synonyms: aggressive, violent, belligerent, bellicose, vigorous, forceful, active, fierce, combative, pugnacious;
NOUN synonyms: activist, extremist, radical, young turk, zealot

At worse I am yelling fire in a packed barbecue

[bhaktajan]

japan became aggressive after the introduction of meat

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How Japan went from being an almost entirely vegetarian country to a huge consumer of meat
Marta Zaraska, "Meathooked"

Mar. 7, 2016

The first East Asian country to develop an appetite for meat, and one that can offer a glimpse into the process of going from almost vegetarian to meat loving in a relatively short period of time, is Japan.

As late as 1939 a typical Japanese person ate just 0.1 ounce of meat per day.

That's a yearly average, of course.

Today, the daily meat portion of a typical Yamada Tarō (the Japanese equivalent of John Smith) is 4.7 ounces, and his favorite animal protein is pork, not tuna in a sushi roll. One reason behind this astounding change was the rise of Western influence.

Medieval Japan was practically vegetarian. ...

The national religions, Buddhism and Shintoism, both promoted plant-based eating, but what was likely more key to keeping the Japanese off meat was the shortage of arable land on the islands.

Growing livestock takes land away from more efficient plant agriculture, and already in medieval Japan, too many forests had been cleared for fields and too many draft animals were being killed for their flesh — which prompted Japan's rulers to issue meat-eating bans.

The first such ban was announced in 675 CE and meant no beef, monkey, chicken, or dog in Japanese pots from late spring until early autumn. Later, more bans followed. For some time, the Japanese could still satisfy their meat cravings with wild game, but as the population increased and forests gave way to cropland, deer and boars disappeared and so did meat from the plates of the Yamada Tarōs.

The winds of change started blowing, at first mildly, in the eighteenth century. It was the Dutch who sowed in Japanese minds the idea that eating meat is good for health. The Japanese came to see the meat-loaded diets of the tall Europeans as a symbol of progress, of breaking with feudal, hierarchical society.

In 1872, Japanese diets took a fast swerve toward meat. That year, on January 24, a feminine-looking, poetry-writing emperor Meiji publicly ate meat for the first time, giving the nation permission to follow his example.

Over just five years, beef consumption in Tokyo shot up more than thirteen times (what made it possible were imports from Korea). Meiji and his government saw meat not only as a way to modernize Japan and boost the health of the average citizen but also as a way to bolster the strength of the Japanese army. Back then, typical conscripts were small and thin—over 16% of candidates failed to meet the minimum height of four feet eleven inches.

The American occupation after the Second World War gave another powerful boost to the Japanese hunger for meat. The Japanese observed the war victors stuffing themselves with hamburgers, steaks, and bacon.

The first such ban was announced in 675 CE and meant no beef, monkey, chicken, or dog in Japanese pots from late spring until early autumn. Later, more bans followed. For some time, the Japanese could still satisfy their meat cravings with wild game, but as the population increased and forests gave way to cropland, deer and boars disappeared and so did meat from the plates of the Yamada Tarōs.

The winds of change started blowing, at first mildly, in the eighteenth century. It was the Dutch who sowed in Japanese minds the idea that eating meat is good for health. The Japanese came to see the meat-loaded diets of the tall Europeans as a symbol of progress, of breaking with feudal, hierarchical society.

In 1872, Japanese diets took a fast swerve toward meat. That year, on January 24, a feminine-looking, poetry-writing emperor Meiji publicly ate meat for the first time, giving the nation permission to follow his example.

Over just five years, beef consumption in Tokyo shot up more than thirteen times (what made it possible were imports from Korea). Meiji and his government saw meat not only as a way to modernize Japan and boost the health of the average citizen but also as a way to bolster the strength of the Japanese army. Back then, typical conscripts were small and thin—over 16% of candidates failed to meet the minimum height of four feet eleven inches.

The American occupation after the Second World War gave another powerful boost to the Japanese hunger for meat. The Japanese observed the war victors stuffing themselves with hamburgers, steaks, and bacon.

http://www.businessinsider.com/how-japan-became-hooked-on-meat-2016-3

And of course the reader here knows the how Admiral Perry forced commercial trade upon Japan in 1853 ---and less than 90 years later the island of Japan [the size of Jamaica] sought to conquer the world.

I am pursuing a the calculus behind world peace ---not my own self-engrandisement.

[RB 60]

They say you are what you eat.
I'd rather be a meat head than a damned vegetable.

[bhaktajan]

They say you are what you eat.
I'd rather be a meat head than a damned vegetable.

You will get your wish.
The meat you are eating is raised on vegetation.

Too bad for your special abilities to bless dead flesh, and
Too bad for your special abilities to damn vegetables.

You are familiar with wood burning stoves?

You are familiar with fire and brimestone barbeque coal?
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[bhaktajan]

33 Foods That Make You Ugly


Cereal: Many of today's cereals are made from anemically "enriched" flours and refined grains, plus an excess of sugar and artificial flavors and colors. Ancient man didn't even eat grains: it's a relatively new phenomenon to eat flaky cereals that cause bloating and can contribute to obesity.

Milk: Whether or not you're completely lactose intolerant, milk can still cause gas. Milk can also cause face bloat or puffiness, and cramping.

Coffee: Coffee in moderation isn't harmful, but if you drink too much, it can stain your teeth, makes your breath smell wicked bad, and may even make you a little gassy. Too
much caffeine can also lead to dehydration, which leaves a pallid skin complexion.

Processed food: Processed food lacks natural nutrients, so if you're filling up on these foods, you're most likely not getting nutrients and vitamins you really need. That means your body — including your face — isn't as healthy as it needs to be, and cell repair slows.

Cocaine: Cocaine is obviously a troublemaker for lots of reasons, but it can also make you ugly. Cocaine — especially cocaine that isn't 100% pure — can lead to skin tissue death and a low white-cell count, as well as purple marks on your body.

Alcohol: Even a few drinks might leave you looking a little rough the next day — bloodshot eyes or bags under your eyes, and a weak looking complexion are the result of restless sleep and dehydration. Drinking heavily and often will also help you gain weight and makes you pudgy, as alcohol destroys muscle.

Margarine: Margarine is thought of as a healthier alternative to butter, but check the label. Many margarines contain trans fats, or hydrogenated oils. These are terrible for maintaining hormone balance in your body, and can cause you to break out.

Salt: Eating salty snacks can make your whole body bloat, including your tummy, face and fingers. That tissue-swelling and then deflating makes your skin less elastic over time.

Sugar: Some sugars, like raffinose, lactose, fructose and sorbitol cause gas. And on top of that, high-glycemic foods, like waffles, white breads, Corn Flakes, potatoes, and dates, are what really make you break out.

Soft drinks: Regular 12 oz. sodas have up to 10 teaspoons of sugar, and often contribute to tooth decay and obesity. But even diet sodas with caffeine dehydrate your skin and contain lots of toxins and artificial sweeteners that aren't good for you, either.

Salad dressing: Always check the label before buying salad dressing. Many contain MSG, or include a listing of ingredients that are used to make MSG (a trick used to make you think you're buying something that's MSG-free). The flavor enhancer can cause nausea and headaches, but also sweating, facial tightness and a burning sensation in your face. And even salad dressings without MSG may cause gas, or be mixed with mayonnaise and lots of sugar, which are bad for your skin.

Barbecue sauce: Barbecue sauces are also red flags for MSG. They're also full of sugar and carbs, so check the label.

Trans fats: Cooking oils, microwave popcorn, and packaged or baked goods contain trans fats which clog your arteries and restrict oxygen flow to the brain and your heart.
Check the label, but know that some boxes that say "0 Trans Fats" actually do have some trans fats. Food companies can get away with sneaking a half gram of trans fats into a serving, without disclosing the information to the consumer.

Soy sauce: Just one tablespoon of soy sauce can contain over 40% of your daily value of sodium. Many soy sauces also contain MSG, so you'll be a sweaty, bloated mess after all that dipping.

White bread: White breads and rice can lead to inflammation and break outs, so opt for whole-grain, low-glycemic substitutions if you have to eat bread.

Mystery meats: Sausages and other processed meats are packed with fat and salt which are not conducive to beauty.

Cake: Chocolate probably won't make you break out, but cake will. Made with white flour, it leads to inflammation.

Pasta: Pasta is another food that can lead to inflammation, bloating and break outs. Pick whole grain pastas high in dietary fiber if possible.

Doughnuts: Doughnuts are terrible for your skin and your figure. They're packed with refined sugar, refined oils and refined flour. All those refined ingredients lead to break outs, and the intense sugar high you'll feel will be followed by a major crash, giving you headaches and more cravings.

White rice: Unless you want puffiness and pimples, eliminate white rice from your diet.

Artichokes: A staple in many Mediterranean dishes, artichokes naturally contain fructose, which causes gas.

Gelatin: Gelatin, which is used to make Jell-O, candy corn, cream cheese, yogurt, jams, marshmallows and other foods, is a hidden source of MSG.

Palm oil: Another cooking ingredient that might make your date run away is palm oil, which is high in saturated fat and not a safe substitute for trans fat. It amps up cholesterol and promotes heart disease. Check labels on packaged foods like cookies and crackers to make sure they weren't made with palm oil.
French fries: French fries contain gross levels of salt and either saturated fat or hydrogenated vegetable oil (or both). You might notice your fingers swell just a couple of hours after eating french fries, so don't order them on a date.

Chewing gum: Sugary gum can actually make your breath smell worse, so don't pop a stick in right before a kiss if you're hoping the minty freshness will overpower your dinner. The sugar in gum, mints and candy might make your mouth taste good to you, but the sugar helps bacteria reproduce, making your breath reek.

Soy oil: Soy oil is considered an industrial oil, which can break skin down — and out. Always look for unsaturated fat in oils.
Flavored jerky: Besides containing unbelievable amounts of sodium — oftentimes half your daily value or more — flavored jerky usually contains MSG to keep it, well, tasting good for ridiculous amounts of time.
High protein foods: Foods that are high in protein are good for controlling appetite, but they also contribute to bad breath. It's a common problem for people on low-carb diets who rely on fatty, high-protein foods like meat, fish, eggs, and dairy for nutrition. These foods can also lead to dehydration, and later, keto breath.

Garlic: Garlic gets under your skin in a way few foods do. It can make you sweat and stink, even after taking showers and brushing your teeth.

Cabbage: Cabbage is another food that makes you sweat and can give you bad breath. Members of the cruciferae food family — like cabbage — contain sulfur compounds, which make us sweat — and it's the stinky kind of sweat.

Starchy foods: Starchy carbohydrates are very closely linked with bad breath, so avoid potatoes and other starches.

Broccoli: Also part of the cruciferae family, broccoli can make you sweaty and smelly.
Hot wings: Extra spicy foods make you sweat visibly. What date wants to see you dripping over your messy, saucy meal? If you go out for wings, don't try to impress your date by ordering the hottest sauce: stick with something mild.

There are all kinds of stories and research studies conducted to tell us how to look younger and more beautiful. But instead of scouring the grocery store for every acai berry or skin-saving product you can get your hands on, you can also avoid certain foods that do damage to your appearance. Some of the foods below are bad for your insides and outsides, while others just make you stinky or sweaty. You might be inclined to cut out certain foods and oils altogether, while others can be saved for nights alone at home.
http://www.nursingschools.net/blog/2011/01/33-foods-that-make-you-ugly/

[bhaktajan]

Vegans were often on the top of the douchebag list before the Trumpkins came along.

Are your the protector and keeper of the douchebag list?



I'd love to hear what they think Eskimos in northern Alaska should do.

No you wouldn't. I doubt you'd love to hear it.

[bhaktajan]

Your replies give a new definition to the sound of "crying in the wilderness"

[USFREEDOM911]

You will get your wish.
The meat you are eating is raised on vegetation.

Too bad for your special abilities to bless dead flesh, and
Too bad for your special abilities to damn vegetables.

You are familiar with wood burning stoves?

You are familiar with fire and brimestone barbeque coal?
https://gbc-cdn-public-media.azureedge.net/img63872.1426x713.jpg

Just needs a grill to cook on and nice big juicy steak. :good4u:

[bhaktajan]

The cow is sacred because her milk nurses human babies...and her husband is the best beast of burden for agrarian living.


LET'S GO TO ARGENTINA!
Wed 19 Oct 2016

Hundreds of thousands of women in Argentina are expected to join a national protest over violence against women on Wednesday, after a horrifying attack in which a 16-year-old girl was raped and tortured.

Organizers of Wednesday’s “women’s strike” called for every woman in the country to stop work, study and other activities for an hour at 1pm.

“In your office, school, hospital, law court, newsroom, shop, factory, or wherever you are working, stop for an hour to demand ‘no more machista violence’,” wrote the march organizers.

Government statistics show that crimes against women have risen 78% since 2008 in Argentina, a rise that may be partly attributable to growing awareness of the phenomenon, but has prompted a national debate over sexist attitudes....

Every 30 hours a woman is killed in such crimes, according to statistics kept by La Casa del Encuentro, an NGO that helps female victims of violence.

The murder of Lucía Pérez came only a few days after a march by tens of thousands of women protesting about crimes against women in the central city of Rosario ended in violence when police fired rubber bullets and teargas into the crowd gathered outside the city’s cathedral.

The strike starts at 1pm, with the ceasing of all work and private activities, followed by a march congregating on the main Plaza de Mayo square in Buenos Aires.

Three suspects have been arrested in the Pérez case, but her family has since reported receiving death threats.

“We have to gather strength and take to the streets,” wrote Matías Pérez in his open letter. “We all have to shout together, more than ever: “Not one less.”

But Pérez’s murder is just the latest in a harrowing sequence of “femicides”, crimes usually committed by husbands, boyfriends, family members or acquaintances of the victim. In more than one case, the woman has been set on fire by her partner.

“This violence is trying to teach us a lesson, it wants to put us back in a traditional role into which we don’t fit any more,” says Cantabria. “It’s not a specific blow by a specific man against one woman in particular, it’s a message to all women to return to our stereotypical roles.”

Cartabia is a member of the collective Ni Una Menos (Not One Less – meaning not one more woman lost to male violence), which organized Argentina’s first march against gender-related crimes in June last year.

That protest and a second one in June drew hundreds of thousands of
women to the street in a growing movement to fight male violence against women.

In 2012, Argentina passed legislation against “femicide”, a legal term encompassing domestic violence, “honor” killings and other categories of hate crimes against women.

But campaigners warn that machista attitudes have been slow to change: in the last 18 days alone, 19 women have been killed in Argentina.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/19/argentina-women-strike-violence-protest

[The Ugly Truth]

Meat eating causes wars, illness, un-controllable lust, draught ---but this knowledge is above the head and shoulders of western civilisation's grand-parentage.

The karmic-payback for enmass meat eating is documented generation after generation ---just analyse the last two centuries by counting and comparing pound-for-pound the mutual losses ---cadaver-to-cadaver.

Such societies will incur enemies that may or may not seem befitting the "Good-guys" side.

Vandal vs Romans perennially.

In regards to "be like your father in Heaven" ---do you suppose that "fox-hunting" & factory farming & gentlemen-Farmers all occur in heaven?

How does one Logically compute via,
"By each according to his works",
the cosmic "Price" accured to one-self [or to a mass of patrons],
the "cost" of a beast's carcass for thanksgiving?

How long does it take to tally-up mass karmic pay-back?


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Mis-translated Bible terms infavor of meat eating?

As a long-standing member of the Hare Krishna Movement, I have learnt by some of my Hindu Vaishnav scholars that certain Bible terms are mis-translated:

Indeed, My ulterior motive is to get nations to turn swords to Plowshares ---this is done by ultimately having a "Change of Heart" as to the reality of fostering Flesh eating [meat in German is 'Fleisch']. Flesh eating begets violence and non-compassion and the illogic fantasy of obtaining peace in an enviroment of butcher-based society.

Vegetarianism as a sublime means of eating, is borne of ordhodox yoga disiplines ---therefore the higher goal of "a-himsa" (No-violence) ergo, "shanti" (peace) can be achieved.

Please review the Greek & hebrew terms, and kindly, verify or deny their veracity:

I'd like to cut and paste the whole Bible text, but for here are the Chapter/Verse of mention of NONE-FLESH EATING:

Old Testiment RE-CAP:

gen 1:29 [vs. Gen 9:3 ~immediately after recovery from the flood].

gen 9:4-5

num 11:33

Isaiah 1:11,15

Isaiah 66.3

Leviticus 3:17


Regarding, "Thou shall not Kill" ---reference:

The hebrew words are: 'Lo tirtzach' ---according to Dr Reuben Alcalay's 'Complete Hebrew/English Dictionary', 'tirtzach' refers to any kind of killing.

Christ was vegetarian ---there are 19 Gospel referneces to 'meat' all have been mis-translated from the original Greek Bible text:


Greek (3 of references) - English meaning:
Broma (4) - 'food' Romans 14:15, 20-21; I Corinthians 8:8, 10:3
Brosis (4) - 'the act of eating' Romans 14:17
Brosimos (1) - 'that which may be eaten'
Phago (3) - 'to eat' Luke 8:55
Prosphagon (1) - 'anything to eat'
Trophe (6) - 'nourishment' John 4:8, Acts 9:19, Acts 27:33-36
and,
Trapesa (?) - 'table' "...They set a table before him ..." Acts 16:34

Thus, John 21:5 "Have ye any meat" ---is incorrect. it should have been translated:
"Have ye 'anything to eat'"

Regarding, "FISH" ---reference: The secret & mystical symbol/Password for "Christian" in Roman Prosecution Times, derived from the Greek word for fish, ICHTHUS ---forming the acronym: Iesous Christos Theou Uios Soter (Jesus Christ Son of God Saviour)

New Testiment RE-CAP:

Matt 3:4 ~(the word 'locusts' used here means Locust beans, aka, carob, aka, St John's bread)
Luke 8:55 ~the word used here is 'phago' (to eat).
Isaiah 7:14,15 ~prophets predict Jesus's diet: "... Butter & Honey shall he eat ..."
Luke 24:41-43 ~Note the words used, Jesus was offered two things 'Fish and a honeycomb' "... and he took it . . ." indicates that he choose one of the two judging from Isaiah 7:15 [the word used here is 'brosimos' (eatable)].

See the Offence for fleash eating:

Greek word for FLESH is: 'kreas'
I Corinthians 8:13

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Can someone be brave enough to address these words ---for it is the next portal to world peace.

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a learned person sees all living entities equally panditah sama-darsinah because he sees the same soul within the different varieties of bodies.

'We want brotherhood, but what does it mean to be brothers? It means we have the same father.' Only when we recognize God as the supreme father can we have real brotherhood.

Knowing God to be the supreme father, we can understand that if we deal with God's other children nicely, God will be pleased. But if we try to exploit and commit violence upon one another, how will the supreme father be pleased? And if God is not pleased, how can we expect peace and prosperity in the world?

"Animals are also children of God, although they have less developed intelligence. They resemble human children, who also do not have developed intelligence, or developed speech. Nor can they defend themselves.

But in a family the strong are meant to protect the weak. For a stronger older brother to torture or massacre a baby is a terrible crime. How upset and angry the father would be!

So animals should be treated like our younger brothers or sisters, to be protected, not exploited or slaughtered so we can eat their flesh.

Meat, fish and animal-derived foods, such as milk, are the only foods that naturally provide vitamin B 12. ... Red meat contains a number of B vitamins: thiamin (vitamin B1), riboflavin (vitamin B2), pantothenic acid, folate, niacin (vitamin B3), vitamin B6 and B12.

So, you can be a sickly vegetarian if you like. I like my meat. Sorry if that offends you. Well, actually, I'm not.

[bhaktajan]

Those in the Vitamin industry are sure to provide tracts for distribution.

But sincerely I confide to you here that Meat Eaters [imo the Vegan movement is a fad that will later find its own level in time] cannot become vegetarian [regular lacto-vegetarian].

It can only happen if superior food stuff is obtainable. The meat eaters are 99% un-able to change to vegetarianism due to life-long lethargy. Ironically many folks are forced by national health standards' insurance liability laws aka your doctor told you you "must become vegetarian"! ---but they simply put it thus: Cut out this and this and that from your diet and then they say pay as you leave.

[bhaktajan]

Killing animals and meat eating is a practice of Asur.

Thousands of Mleccha cults like islam and christianity who followed anti-Vedic way of life came and got diminished with each passing 1000’s of years, the learnings of Hindu texts re-emerged time to time so that Humans know the real purpose of their existence and they do not indulge in anti-Vedic activities which include killing animals for meat eating.

There is continous fight of Devta and Asur within our body and mind.

Teachings of Hindu texts is meant for all. Wherever discussion about meat is done, it is to inform meat-eaters that they should abstain meat eating as it is not healthy for mind, body and soul.

Hindu Texts on Vegetarianism

What Bhagavad Gita (Words of Bhagwan Himself) Teaches on Vegetarianism

“The devotees of the Bhagwan are released from all kinds of sins because they eat food which is offered first for Yagna. Others, who prepare food for personal sense enjoyment, verily eat only sin.” (Bhagavad Gita.3.13)

“If one offers Me with love and devotion a leaf, a flower, fruit or water, I will accept it. O son of Kunti, all that you do, all that you eat, all that you offer and give away, as well as all austerities that you may perform, should be done as an offering unto Me. In this way you will be freed from all reactions to good and evil deeds, and by this principle of renunciation you will be liberated and come to Me.” (Bhagavad Gita 9.26-28)

“Even food of which all partake is of three kinds, according to the three modes of material nature. The same is true of Yagnas, austerities and charity. Listen, and I shall tell you of the distinctions of these. Foods in the mode of goodness increase the duration of life, purify one’s existence and give strength, health, happiness and satisfaction. Such nourishing foods are sweet, juicy, fattening and palatable. Foods that are too bitter, too sour, salty, pungent, dry, and hot, are liked by people in the mode of passion. Such foods cause pain, distress, and disease. Food cooked more than three hours before being eaten, which is tasteless, stale, putrid, decomposed and unclean, is food liked by people in the mode of ignorance.” (Bhagavad Gita 17.7-10)

“The humble sage, by virtue of true knowledge, sees with equal vision a learned and gentle brahmana, a cow, an elephant, a dog and a dog-eater [chandaal].” (Bhagavad Gita 5.18)

“Ahimsa or nonviolence is one of the transcendental qualities that belong to godly men endowed with divine nature.” (Bhagavad Gita 16.2-3)

Manu Samhita on Vegetarianism and Abstaining Meat

“The sinful reaction for animal slaughter is received by six kinds of participants, which include, (1) the killer of the animal, (2) one who advocates or promotes meat-eating, (3) one who transports the meat, (4) one who handles or packages the meat, (5) one who prepares or cooks the meat, and (6) one who eats it.” (Manu-samhita)

“Meat can never be obtained without injury to living creatures, and injury to sentient beings is detrimental to the attainment of heavenly bliss; let him therefore shun the use of meat. Having well considered the disgusting origin of flesh and the cruelty of fettering and slaying corporeal beings, let him entirely abstain from eating flesh.” (Manu-samhita 5.48-49)

“He who permits the slaughter of an animal, he who cuts it up, he who kills it, he who buys or sells meat, he who cooks it, he who serves it up, and he who eats it, must all be considered as the slayers of the animal. There is no greater sinner than that man who though not worshiping the gods or the ancestors, seeks to increase the bulk of his own flesh by the flesh of other beings.” (Manu-samhita 5.51-52)

“If he has a strong desire (for meat) he may make an animal of clarified butter or one of flour (and eat that); but let him never seek to destroy an animal without a (lawful) reason. As many hairs as the slain beast has, so often indeed will he who killed it without a (lawful) reason suffer a violent death in future births.” (Manu-samhita 5.37-38)

“He who injures harmless creatures from a wish to give himself pleasure, never finds happiness in this life or the next.” (Manu-samhita 5.45)

“By subsisting on pure fruits and roots, and by eating food fit for ascetics in the forest, one does not gain so great a reward as by entirely avoiding the use of flesh.” (Manu-samhita 5.54-55)

“He who does not seek to cause the sufferings of bonds and death to living creatures, (but) desires the good of all (beings), obtains endless bliss. He who does not injure any (creature) attains without an effort what he thinks of, what he undertakes, and what he fixes his mind on.” (Manu-samhita 5.46-47)

“By not killing any living being, one becomes fit for salvation.” (Manu-samhita 6.60)

Rig Veda on Vegetarian diet

“One who partakes of human flesh, the flesh of a horse or of another animal, and deprives others of milk by slaughtering cows, O King, if such a fiend does not desist by other means, then you should not hesitate to cut off his head.” (Rig-veda 10.87.16)

“The cow gives milk each year, O Man-regarder let not the Yātudhāna ever taste it.
If one would glut him with the biesting, Agni, pierce with thy flame his vitals as he meets thee.

Let the fiends drink the poison of the cattle; may Aditi cast off the evildoers.
May the God Savitar give them up to ruin, and be their share of plants and herbs denied them.

Agni, from days of old thou slayest demons never shall Rakshas in fight o’ercome thee.
Burn up the foolish ones, the flesh-devourers let none of them escape thine heavenly arrow.” (Rig Veda 10.87.17-19)

Teachings of Bhagawat Puran, Garga Samhita and Tirukkural on Embracing Vegetarianism

“Those who are ignorant of real dharma and, though wicked and haughty, account themselves virtuous, kill animals without any feeling of remorse or fear of punishment. Further, in their next lives, such sinful persons will be eaten by the same creatures they have killed in this world.” (Bhagavat Puran 11.5.14)

The saar of this chapter of Garga Samhita is selfless bhakti and offering to Bhagwan thereby remaining Vegetarian: 1) Aupacharika is external worship such as offering incense and waving ghee lamps, fanning etc. 2) Samsparsika is tactual service such as garlanding, applying ungents, smearing sandalwood paste, etc. 3) Abhyaaharika is offering of vegetarian food such as milk products, fruits and vegetables. After performing puja, bhakt can intake vegetarian foods. Garga Samhita (Canto 10, Chapter 61, Verses 23, 24, 25, 26 1)

Based on Vedic teachings, “How can he practice true compassion who eats the flesh of an animal to fatten his own flesh?” (Tirukkural)

“If the world did not purchase and consume meat, no one would slaughter and offer meat for sale. When a man realizes that meat is the butchered flesh of another creature, he will abstain from eating it.” (Tirukkural)

Message of Mahabharat on Practicing Vegetarianism

Even today, smart Indians practice this method of learning wherein discussion with elders help them to gain knowledge about major aspects of life. It is not necessary that an alcoholic need to be educated about ill-effects of alcoholism, it is important for the teetotaler also to know about it so that he can spread the knowledge with others. The shortest way to control an urge to eating meat, is to stop visiting places where meat is served, stop sitting beside friends on lunch/dinner who eat meat, slowly and gradually it will help you in abstaining it.

There is beautiful conversation between Bhisma and Yudhishthira on the habit of meat-eating (adharmic, asurpana) and abstaining from it. The discourse provide insights on the ill-effects of meat-eating for the people and society.

Bhisma said to Yudhisthira what Rishis explained on vegetarianism “The highly wise seven celestial Rishis, the Valakshillyas, and those Rishis who drink the rays of the sun, all speak highly of abstention from meat. The self-created Manu has said that the man who does not eat meat, or who does not kill living creatures, or who does not cause them to be killed, is a friend of all creatures. Such a man is incapable of being oppressed by any creature. He enjoys the confidence of all living beings. He always enjoys the praise of the pious. The virtuous Narada has said that that man who wishes to multiply his own flesh by eating the flesh of other creatures meets with disaster.” (Mahabharata, Anu. 115.9-12)

“That man, who having eaten meat, gives it up afterwards wins merit by such a deed that is so great that a study of all the Vedas or a performance, O Bharata, of all the Yagnas [Vedic rituals], cannot give its like.” (Mahabharata, Anu.115.16)

“That learned person who gives to all living creatures the gift of complete assurance is forsooth regarded as the giver of lifebreaths in this world.” (Mahabharata, Anu.115.18)

“Men gifted with intelligence and purified souls should always treat others as they themselves wish to be treated. It is seen that even those men who are endued with learning and who seek to acquire the greatest good in the shape of liberation, are not free of the fear of death.” (Mahabharata, Anu.115.20)

“What necessity be said of those innocent and healthy creatures gifted with love of life, when they are sought to be killed by sinful wretches living by slaughter? Therefore, O King, know that the discarding of meat is the highest refuge of dharma, of the celestial region, and of happiness. Abstention of injury [to non-sinners] is the highest dharma. It is, again, the highest penance. It is also the highest truth from which all duty emanates.” (Mahabharata, Anu.115.21-23)

“Flesh cannot be had from grass or wood or stone. Unless a living creature is killed it cannot be procured. Hence is the fault of eating flesh. The celestials who live upon Svaha, Svadha, and nectar, are given to truth and sincerity. Those persons, however, who are for satisfying the sensation of taste, should be known as Rakshasas [flesh-eating demons] pervaded by the quality of Darkness.” (Mahabharata, Anu.115.24-25)

“If there were nobody who ate flesh, then there would be nobody to slay living creatures. The man who slays living creatures kills them for the sake of the person who eats flesh. If flesh were not considered as food, there would then be no destruction of living creatures. It is for the sake of the eater that the destruction of living entities is carried on in the world. Since, O you of great splendor, the period of life is shortened by persons who kill living creatures or cause them to be killed, it is clear that the person who seeks his own good should give up meat altogether. Those dreadful persons who are engaged in the destruction of living beings never find protectors when they are in need. Such persons should always be molested and punished even as beast of prey.” (Mahabharata, Anu.115.29-32)

“The sins generated by violence curtail the life of the perpetrator. Therefore, even those who are anxious for their own welfare should abstain from meat-eating.” (Mahabharata, Anu.115.33)

“That man who seeks to multiply his own flesh by (eating) the flesh of others has to live in this world in great anxiety, and after death has to take birth in indifferent races and families (anti-Vedic cults). High Rishis given to the observance of vows and self-control have said that abstention from meat is worthy of praise, productive of fame and Heaven, and a great satisfaction itself. This I heard formerly, O son of Kunti, from Markandeya when that Rishi discoursed on the sins of eating flesh.” (Mahabharata, Anu.115.34-36)

“He who purchases flesh, kills living creatures through his money. He who eats flesh, kills living beings through his eating. He who binds or seizes and actually kills living creatures is the slaughterer. These are the three sorts of slaughter through each of these acts. He who does not himself eat flesh but approves of an act of slaughter, becomes stained with the sin of slaughter.” (Mahabharata, Anu.115.38-39)

“The purchaser of flesh performs violence by his wealth; he who eats flesh does so by enjoying its taste; the killer does violence by actually tying and killing the animal. Thus, there are three forms of killing. He who brings flesh or sends for it, he who cuts off the limbs of an animal, and he who purchases, sells, or cooks flesh and eats it – all these are to be considered meat-eaters.” (Mahabharata, Anu.115.40)

These verses is again in the Anushasana Parva section where there is a conversation between Yudhisthira and Grandfather Bhishma about the merits of abstaining from meat eating and the demerits and consequences for doing so. It is quite revealing. Some quotes are: “That wretched man who kills living creatures for the sake of those who would eat them commits great sin. The eater’s sin is not as great. That wretched man who, even knowing the path of dharmic rites and yagnas as laid down in the Vedas, would kill a living creature from a desire to eats its flesh, will certainly go to hell. That man who having eaten flesh abstains from it afterwards acquires great merit on account of such abstention from sin. He who desires to augment his own flesh by eating the flesh of other creatures, lives in misery in whatever species he may take his [next] birth. He who arranges for obtaining flesh, he who approves of those arrangements, he who kills, he who buys or sells, he who cooks, and he who eats it, [acquire the sin of those who] are all considered as eaters of flesh. [Therefore] that man who wishes to avoid disaster should abstain from the meat of every living creature.” (Mahabharata, Anu.115.44-48)

“Listen to me, O king of kings, as I tell you this, O sinless one, there is absolute happiness in abstaining from meat, O king. He who practices severe austerities for a century, and he who abstains from meat, are both equally meritorious. This is my opinion. (Mahabharata, Anu.115.52-53)

Yudhisthira said “Alas, those cruel men who, not caring for various other sorts of food, want only flesh, are really like Asuras/Rakshasas [meat-eating demons].” (Mahabharata, Anu.116.1)

Bhishma said “That man who wishes to increase his own flesh by the meat of another living creature is such that there is none meaner and more cruel than him. In this world there is nothing that is dearer to a creature than his life. Hence, one should show mercy to the lives of others as he does to his own life. Forsooth, O son, flesh has its origin in the vital seed. There is great sin attached to its eating, as, indeed, there is merit in abstaining from it.” (Mahabharata, Anu.116.11-13)

“There is nothing, O delighter of the Kurus, that is equal in point of merit, either in this world or in the next, to the practice of mercy to all living creatures.” (Mahabharata, Anu.116.19)

“Hence a person of purified soul should be merciful to all living creatures. That man, O king, who abstains from every kind of meat from his birth forsooth, acquires a large space in the celestial region. They who eat the flesh of animals who are desirous of life, are themselves [later] eaten by the animals they eat. This is my opinion. Since he has eaten me, I shall eat him in return. This, O Bharata, forms the character as Mamsah [meaning flesh of the natural product synonym to even some fruits] of Mamsah [me he, or “me he” will eat for having eaten him]. The destroyer is always slain. After him the eater meets with the same fate. (Mahabharata, Anu.116.32-35)

“He who acts with hostility towards another becomes victim of similar deeds done by that other. Whatever acts one does in whatever bodies, he has to suffer the consequences thereof in those bodies. (Mahabharata, Anu.116.36-37)

“Abstention from cruelty (to innocents) is the highest dharma. Abstention from cruelty is the greatest self-restraint. Abstention from cruelty is the highest gift. Abstention from cruelty is the highest penance. Abstention from cruelty is the highest sacrifice. Abstention from cruelty is the highest power. Abstention from cruelty is the greatest friend. Abstention from cruelty is the greatest happiness.” (Mahabharata, Anu.116.38-39)

“Gifts made in all Yagnas, ablutions performed in all sacred water, and the merit which one acquires from making all kinds of gifts mentioned in the scriptures, all these do not equal in merit abstention from cruelty.” (Mahabharata, Anu.116.40)

Bhism said to Yudhishthir “The merit that is acquired by a person by abstaining from meat, we have heard, is superior to that of one who makes presents of gold, of kine, and of land. There is not the slightest doubt that a person by eating meat goes to Hell.”

What Vedas and Other Hindu Commentaries Teaches on Abstaining Meat

Based on Vedic teachings, Mahaparinirvana Sutra states, “The eating of meat extinguishes the seed of great compassion.”

“Cow killers are condemned to rot in hellish life for as many thousands of years as there are hairs on the body of the cow.” Sri Caitanya-caritamrita (Adi-lila, Chapter 17, verse 166)

“Anaagaaohtyaa vaO BaImaa kRkshtyao maa naao gaamaSvaM paurYaM vaQaI”

“It is definitely a great sin to kill innocents. Do not kill our cows, horses and people.”

meaning

Oh violent man
It is the most heinous sin
To kill the innocent creatures,
Kill not our cows
Our horses and our men.
(Atharva Veda 10.1.29)

“O teeth! You eat rice, you eat barley, you eat gram and you eat sesame. These cereals are specifically meant for you. Do not kill those who are capable of being fathers and mothers.” Atharvaveda 6.140.2

“May all bipeds (men) and quadrupeds (animals) gain strength and nourishment.” Yajurveda 11.83

On loving all creatures and not killing them. “Those who see all beings as souls do not feel infatuation or anguish at their sight, for they experience oneness with them”. Yajurveda 40.7

Hinduism fully advocates vegetarianism and love for nature. Vegetarianism is the pivot round which Vedic philosophy revolves. According to Vedas, flesh-eating is strictly prohibited. It is not only unnatural food, but also detrimental to body and soul.

Mlecchas who want to continue meat eating distort meanings of Hindu text references to justify their meat eating habits. now its time to give jaw-breaking punches to the false claims made by some leftist and muslim academicians.

https://haribhakt.com/the-vedic-truth-of-vegetarianism-accepted-by-modern-science/

[USFREEDOM911]

Those in the Vitamin industry are sure to provide tracts for distribution.

But sincerely I confide to you here that Meat Eaters [imo the Vegan movement is a fad that will later find its own level in time] cannot become vegetarian [regular lacto-vegetarian].

It can only happen if superior food stuff is obtainable. The meat eaters are 99% un-able to change to vegetarianism due to life-long lethargy. Ironically many folks are forced by national health standards' insurance liability laws aka your doctor told you you "must become vegetarian"! ---but they simply put it thus: Cut out this and this and that from your diet and then they say pay as you leave.

Has anyone ever suggested to you, that you might want to seek professional help; because you might want to consider it. :good4u:

[bhaktajan]

OPRAH RAVES ABOUT VEGANISM

Nadia Murray-Ragg
Social Media Coordinator and Freelance Journalist | Wellington, New Zealand | Contactable via nadia@livekindly.co
Jan 9, 2018

Oprah Winfrey’s acceptance speech at 2018’s Golden Globe awards has taken the world by storm, in the most uplifting way possible. With her articulate words on hot-topic issues that truly matter and the now-famous speech that represents so much compassion and kindness towards others – it seems only natural that this industry-changing, honest and inspiring celeb would be willing to align her values with actions.
In light of this, we’re here to talk about Oprah’s previous efforts as an empathetic eater, her advocacy for the vegan lifestyle and why Oprah would make one of the greatest vegans to date.

SHE STRONGLY BELIEVES ANIMAL CRUELTY IS WRONG

Oprah is well-supported by her strong values against animal cruelty. As animal agriculture is full of cruelty and death – replacing her favorite foods with vegan alternatives should be an easy move for Oprah. Whether you choose to educate yourself on the matter or not, the evidence is widespread and increasingly hard to turn a blind eye to. Books,documentaries, TV series, articles, news features and many high-profile names are speaking out and explaining their reason for choosing vegan – there’s no shortage of educational resources and information available. Oprah too has spoken about cruelty to animals and the benefits of a vegan lifestyle, but she is not yet vegan herself.
Don’t worry Oprah, it’s never too late!

During 1996, the year the world freaked out over the mad cow disease outbreak, Oprah invited Howard Lyman, a cattle rancher turned vegan, onto her show to discuss how cow organs are turned into food for other cattle, called “rendering”.Oprah was so moved by the ex-ranchers account, this “stopped [her] cold from eating another hamburger”. Half a month after the episode aired, US beef sales dropped to their lowest in 10 years, a group of Texas cattle ranchers filed a lawsuit against Oprah for $10.3 million – the jury ruled in her favor. Undeterred, the talk show host then stated: “Free speech not only lives, it rocks, I’m still off hamburgers”.
So Oprah, why stop at hamburgers? Giving up all other meat and animal products will be much less of a jump now, plus – your favorite foods can easily be swapped for a vegan alternative.

SHE’S GOT A HUGE FOLLOWING AND PLATFORM

Can you imagine how many people would try veganism, inspired by her example? Oprah is simply a household name, and not just for Americans. All across the globe, Oprah and her whirlwind career have touched hearts, lives and entertained the world. With such as reputable, well-known name and hundreds of millions of collective social media followers – joining the vegan movement now would sure be gracing headlines everywhere. Considering the world is at such a pivotal time and has never been easier to eat plant-based foods – Oprah surely wouldn’t be the only one to make a lifestyle change.

HER AND 100’S OF STAFFERS DID A SUCCESSFUL 21-DAY VEGAN CHALLENGE


Oprah and her 378 staffers undertook a 21-day vegan challenge way back in 2008, their progress featured on her television show. During the challenge, Oprah hosted vegan author Kathy Freston and vegan chef Tal Ronnen onto her show. Freston showed Oprah how to incorporate an assortment of delicious new vegan foods into her diet. When the challenge ended, Oprah wrote in an essay about what she knows for sure after a “vegan cleanse”. Her essay states: “I learned a lot about how animals are treated and mistreated before they get to our tables. It is appalling and beneath our humanity to allow the torture of animals for the sake of our gluttony. We’ve neglected basic human decency on such a large scale, and it really does bleed over into every other aspect of life.”
Oprah, you’ve done it before, are you willing to give the lifestyle another go?

SHE URGES HER FOLLOWERS TO JOIN HER PLEDGE TO EAT MEATLESS MONDAYS


Oprah’s support for the “Meatless Monday” movement began in 2009, the concept is designed to reduce the quantity of meat consumers are eating and encourage people to see how easy vegetarian eating can be. It is estimated if everybody in America ate meatless at least one day per week, that would be the equivalent of taking 20 million midsize sedans off the road. In 2016, after interviewing Wayne Pacelle from The Humane Society on her show “SuperSoul Sunday”, Oprah hopped on Twitter and said “.@waynepacelle That I can do. Have ‘Meatless’ Mondays! Who will join me? #SuperSoulSunday”
Oprah, why not extend that pledge and commit to enjoying regular plant-based meals?

There are arguably few stamps of approval in this world more powerful than Oprah’s, this woman knows quality and what people want. Tal Ronnen, a vegan chef and restaurant owner, received Oprah’s blessing as “the best vegan chef in America,” which of course, is no accolade to be taken lightly. Fellow talk show host Ellen Degeneres also approves of Ronnen, after cooking with him on her show – she employed him as the chef at her wedding to Portia de Rossi.
Oprah, you say you love vegan food already – so why not eat the plant-based foods you love every day?

Oprah’s weight-loss efforts have been well publicized over the years, including her famously wheeling a wagon with 67lbs of fat on it during an episode of her show – for the audience to see exactly how much she lost. However, a whole-foods plant-based diet is known for being optimal for human health – if Oprah wants to stop short-term dieting, maintain a healthy weight and nourish her body, vegan diets have no cholesterol and are generally lower in calories than diets heavy with animal products.
Oprah, the world wants you around for a long time – a vegan diet can help you stay healthy and prolong your lifespan.

https://www.livekindly.co/oprah-raves-about-veganism-great-vegan-herself/

[iewitness]

dude. it is an agreeance fact that meat eating beast flesh is a symptom of failed man [alpha/ king of the hill stupid]. you, me, the damned UN, any and or all gov.s of failed man cannot legislate it away. it is almost over. you do what you think is right. Jesus will receive you if you call upon His name. don't worry. do not sweat it. http://biblehub.com/kjv/acts/2.htm. I could be banned from jpp for being the bible spammer. you better appreciate the danger I am in and peril [not] for going out of the way to try and yank your ass out of the fire.

[bhaktajan]

Buddhist vegetarianism

The Mahayana schools generally recommend a vegetarian diet; according to some sutras the Buddha
himself insisted that his followers should not eat the flesh of any sentient being.[1] Monks of the
Mahayana traditions that follow the Brahma Net Sutra are forbidden by their vows from eating flesh of any kind.

The earliest surviving written accounts of Buddhism are the Edicts of Asoka written by King Asoka,
a well-known Buddhist king who propagated Buddhism throughout Asia and is honored by both
Theravada and Mahayana schools of Buddhism. The authority of the Edicts of Asoka as a historical
record is suggested by the mention of numerous topics omitted as well as corroboration of numerous
accounts found in the Theravada and Mahayana Tripitakas written down centuries later. [2] Asoka
Rock Edict 1 dated to c. 257 BCE mentions the prohibition of animal sacrifices in Asoka’s Maurya Empire
as well as his commitment to vegetarianism; however, whether the Sangha was vegetarian in part or in
whole is unclear from these edicts. However, Asoka’s personal commitment to and advocating of vegetarianism
suggests Early Buddhism (at the very least for the layperson) most likely already had a vegetarian
tradition (the details are of what that entailed besides not killing animals were not mentioned and therefore is unknown.)


In China, Korea, Vietnam, Taiwan and their respective diaspora communities monks and nuns are expected
to abstain from meat and, traditionally, eggs and dairy, in addition to the fetid vegetables – traditionally garlic,
Allium chinense, asafoetida, shallot, and Allium victorialis (victory onion or mountain leek), although in modern times
this rule is often interpreted to include other vegetables of the onion genus, as well as coriander – this is called
pure vegetarianism (純素, chúnsù). Pure Vegetarianism is Indic in origin and is still practiced in India by some
adherents of Dharmic religions such as Jainism and in the case of Hinduism, lacto-vegetarianism with the
additional abstaintion of pungent or fetid vegetables. A minority of Buddhist lay believers are year-long vegetarians
in the monastic way. Many lay followers followed monastic style vegetarianism on Lunar New Year's Eve,
Saints days and ancestral feast days as well as the 1st and 15th day of the lunar calendar. Some lay followers
also followed monastic style vegetarianism on the six-day，ten-day， Guan-yin (Avalokitesvara) vegetarian,
etc., set lunar calendar schedule. Other Buddhist lay-followers also follow less stringent forms of vegetarianism.
Most Buddhist lay-followers however are not vegetarians. Some Zhaijiao lay adherents also do not eat any meat.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist_vegetarianism

[bhaktajan]

The origin of Shaolin Kung Fu is generally credited to an Indian monk named Tat Moh,
who is also sometimes known as Boddhidharma, a 28th-generation disciple of
Siddhartha Gautama, the historical Buddha.

Bodhidharma was a Buddhist monk who lived during the 5th or 6th century. ... According to Chinese legend,
he also began the physical training of the monks of Shaolin Monastery that led to the creation of Shaolin kungfu.
In Japan, he is known as Daruma.

[bhaktajan]

What world Scriptures include recipes?

I only know of recipes as commonplace in the Vedic scriptures of India [which btw includes many other misc formulas and invocations also].
I found this online :
http://cookingwiththebible.com/meals.aspx#GR3410-2139

But this is not recipes ---its recipes named after the Bible’s mentioning of food eaten by different folks in the New & Old Testiment.
At best these are menu suggestions.
I mean a real old-fashion recipe.

The Hindu use of food in Temple operations is central to Hinduism so I know the value of this topic.

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So I looked this up:
Saying Grace ---what is it’s origin?

A grace is a short prayer or thankful phrase said before or after eating.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_(prayer)

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I found this comment online:
Grace before meals is a Jewish tradition that was in some respects followed by Jesus and also Paul, but is not technically 'commanded' in a legal sense from scripture.

As far as the overall origin of 'grace before meals' I would say it was established in all the ancient sacrifices which included eating portions of the sacrifice. Very early under the Levitical ceremonies food was associated with religious significance. It is no wonder then that a tradition around food has always accompanied various forms of Judaism and Christianity.

https://christianity.stackexchange....-precedent-or-command-regarding-praying-befor

[bhaktajan]

Almost 240 shootings took place at U.S. schools during the 2015-16 year,
according to figures published in April by the Department of Education.
Think about that number: 240.
That’s tens of thousands of American children exposed to mortal danger.

In 2016, there were a total of 437 referrals for terroristic threats.
That number went up slightly to 473 in 2017.
But in 2018, the number of referrals made over five months was 1,212, the report said.


254 YEARS OF HISTORY. 473 SCHOOL SHOOTINGS. WHAT'S THE PROBLEM? WHAT CAN BE DONE?

"1940's: 8

1950's: 17

1960's: 18

1970's: 30

1980's: 39

1990's: 62

2000's: 63

2010's: 145 - as of February 20, 2018. We are 7 years and change into this decade and we've already doubled the amount of school-based shootings according to the list even if you take out some of them for "not qualifying".

​This represents a grand total of 473 school shootings and as you can see, the frequency is increasing dramatically. Very dramatically.

In 254 years of our history, we haven't learned one thing, not one thing about keeping our kids safe in school.

We keep wringing our hands, praying for families and the nation to heal and "we gotta get the guns" which, of course, is never going to happen, although, clearly, some changes need to be made.

What is going on that has lead to this? There are so many obvious factors including that we've doubled our population since 1953 and the divisiveness driven by forces both internal and external to our country are creating a level of mental illness and rage not seen before. You know the factors...you see them on the news and hear about them in talk radio every day."


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Active-shooter drills are scaring children away from school
By New York Post Video September 6, 2018

These drills typically involve turning off the lights, locking the classroom doors, pulling down all the window shades and having the children group together in a corner or even a closet. This is all to prevent a potential shooter not just from entering the room, but even being able to see if children are present.

According to the National Center for Education Statistics, over 90 percent of public schools practiced lockdown drills during the 2015-2016 school year.

Obviously, no one is happy about students preparing to deal with active shooters ...
https://nypost.com/2018/09/06/active-shooter-drills-are-scaring-children-away-from-school/

[bhaktajan]

Genesis 9:4-5 King James Version (KJV)

4 But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.

5 And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man.


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Isaiah 1:11 King James Version (KJV)

11 To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the Lord: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats. ...

15 And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.

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Isaiah 66:3 King James Version (KJV)

3 He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog's neck; he that offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine's blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations.

[Mason Michaels]

Genesis 9:4-5 King James Version (KJV)

4 But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.

5 And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man.


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Isaiah 1:11 King James Version (KJV)

11 To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the Lord: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats. ...

15 And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.

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Isaiah 66:3 King James Version (KJV)

3 He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog's neck; he that offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine's blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations.

Explain Peter's dream in Acts that all things are Kosher!
Or Jesus feeding the multitudes with bread and fish

[bhaktajan]

Ya'll have had a 5000 year long record. The 1900s started off with upton sinclair's book The Jungle and ended with Schlosser's book Fast Food Nation


Explain Peter's dream in Acts that all things are Kosher!
Or Jesus feeding the multitudes with bread and fish

Who is feeding all of them right now? God supplies food to every beast highest to lowest.

"All things are One" = Hindu Advaita philosophy ---so Peter's good on that accounting.

Jesus didn't eat the fish ... Jesus was offered fish and a honeycomb, but only took one, he took the honey.
---this also was as John the Baptist did [and prophesied Isha would], his meat was the locust bean and wild honey.

Locust bean referring to St John's Bread aka Carob seeds. [which I googled lately to find that the mid-east is full of]

Earilier in this thread I cover the Greek words Broma, Brosis, Phago, Brosimos, Trophe,
Prosphagon ---non literally mean meat--- but refer to "Food" and the act of eating.

CHALLENGE:

John 21:5 "Have ye any meat?" is incorrect. It is really "Have ye anything to eat?"


Do you expect that in the Kingdom of God, that in His abode, there is killing, cooking and eating of All sorts of God's Creatures?

Do you expect that in the Kingdom of God, meat is served as a transcendent pastime?

It says "Be like your father in Heaven" ---do you believe that there are creatures in heaven that exist so as to be eaten?
And this is one of the things that are done in a place that exists eternally beyond this material cosmos?

[Minister of Truth]

There are pulled pork sandwiches in heaven. There are also hamburgers, wings, and chicken tenders.

[Jade Dragon]

There are pulled pork sandwiches in heaven. There are also hamburgers, wings, and chicken tenders.

They will need Cuban sandwiches, flat iron steaks, and Memphis style ribs. The Indian sounding hater that started this, can have tofurky, and drink their sacred cow pee.

[NiftyNiblick]

The universe is merely the random confluence of protons, neutrons, and electrons in the vacuum of space.

Even as a meat eater, I concur that meat eating is repugnant as a moral consideration.

The universe is a swirl of magnificent, repugnant, and indifferent truths occurring randomly,

because whatever the source of the protons, neutrons, electrons, and the vacuum within which they exist,

be it simple eternity or something else like a creator,

exerts absolutely no control over their random confluence.

[bhaktajan]

The universe is merely ....

The originating fountainhead wellspring [of all permutations of particles in a vacuum too] but all things are in their quintessence are witnessed by the presence of the "PERSONA"

I have posted repeatedly this concept...before and/or after one accepts God as existing ---it's still "PERSONA" as the quintessence of the definition of GOD.

God is the originating fountainhead wellspring of "PERSONA"

God is "PERSONA" ... later came plenary energetic expansions/expressions in multitudes of variety ie: protons, neutrons, and electrons, duality, elementals, in many stratums.


God is original "MR. PERSONA"

"MR. PERSONA" is not like all the Mr Persons that came and went before.

GOD as "PERSONA" is due to PERSONA being itself a perfect self-manifestation. The form of the first original Persona would have been where everything was perfect and harmonious and endearingly idyllic and free and fearless and enlightened and at one...this is what the first original Persona would be.

The first original Persona is what came long before in the beginning there was the word.

[bhaktajan]

They will need Cuban sandwiches, flat iron steaks, and Memphis style ribs. The Indian sounding hater that started this, can have tofurky, and drink their sacred cow pee.

Them thar Cattle are as good as Gold ---give or take a thousand dollars.


Them thar Chinamen invented Gunpowder from hay bog long soaked in pig piss ---and we used it to celebrate at many barbecues.

I don't see the loftiness of your reasoning being derived from anything but the excuse:

"Well, I was born that way"

[bhaktajan]

There are pulled pork sandwiches in heaven. There are also hamburgers, wings, and chicken tenders.

Now sit back and think of your happy place.

Now let's ramp it up. How can you make your happy place one of the best places to do what would really bring you pleasure? Now linger there awhile.

Now, is your happy place as good as a heaven? Yes it is. Right?

Your happy place heaven is as Frank Costanza said to Kramer in their pool room: It's the place to be.

[bhaktajan]

They will need Cuban sandwiches, flat iron steaks, and Memphis style ribs. The Indian sounding hater that started this, can have tofurky, and drink their sacred cow pee.

Cows are vegetarians.

So remember: Jade eats vegetarians

...and I bet many times cooked by Marielitos with teardrop tattoos

[bhaktajan]

The hater.

One must appeal to a person that learnt something ...so that he too can be taught.

I am the Hater?


<sigh ... I feel chagrin to to laugh or say poor twit or gasp at the Orwellian Vonnegutism ...sigh>

[Minister of Truth]

Now sit back and think of your happy place.

Now let's ramp it up. How can you make your happy place one of the best places to do what would really bring you pleasure? Now linger there awhile.

Now, is your happy place as good as a heaven? Yes it is. Right?

Your happy place heaven is as Frank Costanza said to Kramer in their pool room: It's the place to be.

Beer.

[NiftyNiblick]

Forward infinity is easy to understand.
It's just more of the same forever.

Backwards infinity is impossible to understand.

An original wellspring?
But what was before that?
And even before that?

Fortunately, it doesn't matter.

Relatively soon, my sub-atomic components will metamorphosize to a form that doesn't sustain thought,
and at that time, my short run will have been completed,
the extent or lack of its significance to be pondered by entities whose own short runs will soon be over as well.

And so it goes.
Forward infinity? Understandable but hardly compelling.
Backward infinity? Unfathomable but still hardly compelling.

[Jade Dragon]

https://www.allrecipes.com/video/2690/garlic-prime-rib/?internalSource=rr_recipe&referringId=479&referringContentType=Video&clickId=right%20rail%203&AnalyticsEvent=right%20rail%20nav

[bhaktajan]

Beer.

Now think back to when you were a child and when I passed by the open door of a pub...

Can you recollect the "Sense Memory" the smell of the Pubs of old?

IMO the smell of a typical Pub was:
1] piss
2] Cigarette smoke filtered through lungs that had alcohol fumes emitting from the blood stream
3] blue collar sweat and sandwich meats
4] mopped floors using un-rinsed mops
5] Cigarette ash

And that's when just passing by the open door of the pub.


"Sense Memory"

[bhaktajan]

Forward infinity is easy to understand.
It's just more of the same forever.

Backwards infinity is impossible to understand.

An original wellspring?
But what was before that?
And even before that?

Fortunately, it doesn't matter.

Relatively soon, my sub-atomic components will metamorphosize to a form that doesn't sustain thought,
and at that time, my short run will have been completed,
the extent or lack of its significance to be pondered by entities whose own short runs will soon be over as well.

And so it goes.
Forward infinity? Understandable but hardly compelling.
Backward infinity? Unfathomable but still hardly compelling.

a] The mystery is why Buddhist Monks work hard at attaining nirvana ---whilst ya'll think you're gonna get nirvana for free without any effort.

You have posted that you have achieved Buddha-hood ---and next you're gonna tell me you aint no Buddhist! Yet you have delineated the path to Nirvana for yourself as if it was a sure thing....that makes you a Guru on a topic that surpasses all the Buddhist texts and even Buddha's message. It's like those two other guys on the crucifixes...How'd they get so lucky & How do we get a piece of the pie too?

Do I congratulate you or simply bow down?


b] Let's suppose NiftyNiblick is 71 years old [cuz I will need a number divisable by 3]...but lets subtract the first 5 years...

therefore NiftyNiblick has been Walking and talking all on his own for 66 years...

1/3 of those 66 years was spent asleep [8hrs out of a 24hr Day]...

therefore NiftyNiblick has really only been Walking and talking all on his own for 44 years...

1/3 of those 44 years was spent at prepping for & commuting to and doing workschool [8hrs out of a 24hr Day]...

therefore NiftyNiblick has really only been Walking and talking all on his own FREE TIME for 29 years!

I'd say that if NiftyNiblick has been working on his own recognisance for 29 years as to the mysteries of Life ---maybe NiftyNiblick has achieve Nirvana already.

Shall NiftyNiblick write a book and spread the Dharma?

[Minister of Truth]

Now think back to when you were a child and when I passed by the open door of a pub...

Can you recollect the "Sense Memory" the smell of the Pubs of old?

IMO the smell of a typical Pub was:
1] piss
2] Cigarette smoke filtered through lungs that had alcohol fumes emitting from the blood stream
3] blue collar sweat and sandwich meats
4] mopped floors using un-rinsed mops
5] Cigarette ash

And that's when just passing by the open door of the pub.


"Sense Memory"

IOW, you were able to sense the smell of heaven.

:clink:

[bhaktajan]

IOW, you were able to sense the smell of heaven.

:clink:

So now I can speak about what I sense?

I am a vegetarian and have been reminded many times about "a pig's Life" ie:

a] a pig will eat his own stool and be quite satiated and content;
b] a pig will have sex with his own mother ... and be quite satiated and content;
c] a pigs sty is a combination of mud and warm stool mixed together
d] aside from that they make great pets because they are intelligent.

That is all that comes to mind right now.

PS: IMHO, I have always supposed that a person that has more or less a countenance that resembles a pig ...probably has been eating a lot of them pigs for decades.

[Phantasmal]

So now I can speak about what I sense?

I am a vegetarian and have been reminded many times about "a pig's Life" ie:

a] a pig will eat his own stool and be quite satiated and content;
b] a pig will have sex with his own mother ... and be quite satiated and content;
c] a pigs sty is a combination of mud and warm stool mixed together
d] aside from that they make great pets because they are intelligent.

That is all that comes to mind right now.

PS: IMHO, I have always supposed that a person that has more or less a countenance that resembles a pig ...probably has been eating a lot of them pigs for decades.
Just a quick observation, but it seems you enjoy your own shit as well. Cheers

[bhaktajan]

IOW, you were able to sense the smell of heaven.

:clink:

"little bit little bit"

But once you fully entered the odd smells etc were not noticeable anymore.

Any way that smell has gone away along spittoons replaced by sofas and Oxicotin.


Soon the wafting smell of Hindu kush hashish will be coming from every corner school yard...so let's watch how long that fad lasts.

[bhaktajan]

Just a quick observation, but it seems you enjoy your own shit as well. Cheers

I can rely on your services as an expert witness.

[USFREEDOM911]

So now I can speak about what I sense?

I am a vegetarian and have been reminded many times about "a pig's Life" ie:

a] a pig will eat his own stool and be quite satiated and content;
b] a pig will have sex with his own mother ... and be quite satiated and content;
c] a pigs sty is a combination of mud and warm stool mixed together
d] aside from that they make great pets because they are intelligent.

That is all that comes to mind right now.

PS: IMHO, I have always supposed that a person that has more or less a countenance that resembles a pig ...probably has been eating a lot of them pigs for decades.

So liberals ARE just pigs. :laugh:

[bhaktajan]

Karma is transferred via Bodily fluids.
Karma is transferred via Bodily fluids.
Karma is transferred via Bodily fluids.
Karma is transferred via Bodily fluids.

So was I correct?

[AProudLefty]

Karma is transferred via Bodily fluids.
Karma is transferred via Bodily fluids.
Karma is transferred via Bodily fluids.
Karma is transferred via Bodily fluids.

https://live.staticflickr.com/8341/8201420215_95e34bc756_b.jpg

[bhaktajan]

Save you own vital fluids,

Teach em what commingling ground round sweat is like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6WD7B_I_9c

[AProudLefty]

https://consentfactory.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/jack-ripper-big.jpg

[AProudLefty]

If Viagra was invented back then in that movie, WW3 would have been prevented.

https://www.magicalquote.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Women-sense-my-power-and-they-seek-the-life-essence.-I-do-not-avoid-women-Mandrake.-But-I-do-deny-them-my-essence.jpg

[AProudLefty]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPwW7RaPO_g

[bhaktajan]

"testosterone natural sources" ---do I mean, "testosterone natural sources in Food"?

[bhaktajan]

Which foods increase testosterone the most?
8 Testosterone-Boosting Foods
Tuna.
Low-fat milk.
Egg yolks.
Fortified cereals.
Oysters.
Shellfish.
Beef.
Beans.

So are to protesters vegetarians?

[bhaktajan]

Are the innovative politicians vegetarians?

[bhaktajan]

Is there any record of terrorists that were Vegetarian?

[Phantasmal]

Is there any record of terrorists that were Vegetarian?
Yes, in France, they were terrorizing butchers.

[bhaktajan]

Yes, in France, they were terrorizing butchers.

Is that when they released prisoners to their own recognizance?

[bhaktajan]

"Every time a gun fire rings, another beast lost its limbs"

[Cancel 2020.2]

"testosterone natural sources" ---do I mean, "testosterone natural sources in Food"?

:palm:

[bhaktajan]

:palm:

Oh Sir! Did you know the answer to my query?

Aho!

Testosterone is produced by the gonads (by the Leydig cells in testes in men and by the ovaries in women), although small quantities are also produced by the adrenal glands in both sexes. It is an androgen, meaning that it stimulates the development of male characteristics.

Testosterone is linked to many of the changes seen in boys during puberty (including an increase in height, body and pubic hair growth, enlargement of the penis, testes and prostate gland, and changes in sexual and aggressive behaviour).
https://www.yourhormones.info/hormones/testosterone/

You probably guessed it ... BUT how is it commercially sourced?

Testosterone banks?

GOOGLE SAYS:
How is testosterone manufactured?
The vast majority of prescription testosterone (cream, gel, injectable, patch, subcutaneous, etc.) is derived from plant sources such as soybeans and yams. Soybeans and yams are natural substances that are put through a chemical synthesis in a laboratory setting to derive the end product of testosterone.

History[edit]
See also: Testosterone § History, and Anabolic steroid § History
Testosterone was first isolated and synthesized in 1935.[94] Shortly thereafter, in 1937, testosterone first became commercially available as a pharmaceutical drug in the form of pellets and then in ester form for intramuscular injection as the relatively short-acting testosterone propionate.[36][34][95] Methyltestosterone, one of the first synthetic AAS and orally active androgens, was introduced in 1935, but was associated with hepatotoxicity and eventually became largely medically obsolete.[95] In the mid-1950s, the longer-acting testosterone esters testosterone enanthate and testosterone cypionate were introduced.[95] They largely superseded testosterone propionate and became the major testosterone esters used medically for over half a century.[95] In the 1970s, testosterone undecanoate was introduced for oral use in Europe,[95] although intramuscular testosterone undecanoate had already been in use in China for several years.[96] Intramuscular testosterone undecanoate was not introduced in Europe and the United States until much later (in the early to mid 2000s and 2014, respectively).[3][97]
The history of testosterone as a medication has been reviewed.

So yes, the question arises: How can the world mafiosi profit from this?

[bhaktajan]

Aggression and hypomania[edit]
From the mid-1980s onward, the media reported "roid rage" as a side effect of AAS.[110]:23
A 2005 review determined that some, but not all, randomized controlled studies have found that AAS use correlates with hypomania and increased aggressiveness, but pointed out that attempts to determine whether AAS use triggers violent behavior have failed, primarily because of high rates of non-participation.[111] A 2008 study on a nationally representative sample of young adult males in the United States found an association between lifetime and past-year self-reported AAS use and involvement in violent acts. Compared with individuals that did not use steroids, young adult males that used AAS reported greater involvement in violent behaviors even after controlling for the effects of key demographic variables, previous violent behavior, and polydrug use.[112] A 1996 review examining the blind studies available at that time also found that these had demonstrated a link between aggression and steroid use, but pointed out that with estimates of over one million past or current steroid users in the United States at that time, an extremely small percentage of those using steroids appear to have experienced mental disturbance severe enough to result in clinical treatments or medical case reports.[113]
A 1996 randomized controlled trial, which involved 43 men, did not find an increase in the occurrence of angry behavior during 10 weeks of administration of testosterone enanthate at 600 mg/week, but this study screened out subjects that had previously abused steroids or had any psychiatric antecedents.[114][115] A trial conducted in 2000 using testosterone cypionate at 600 mg/week found that treatment significantly increased manic scores on the YMRS, and aggressive responses on several scales. The drug response was highly variable. However: 84% of subjects exhibited minimal psychiatric effects, 12% became mildly hypomanic, and 4% (2 subjects) became markedly hypomanic. The mechanism of these variable reactions could not be explained by demographic, psychological, laboratory, or physiological measures.[116]
A 2006 study of two pairs of identical twins, in which one twin used AAS and the other did not, found that in both cases the steroid-using twin exhibited high levels of aggressiveness, hostility, anxiety, and paranoid ideation not found in the "control" twin.[117] A small-scale study of 10 AAS users found that cluster B personality disorders were confounding factors for aggression.[118]
The relationship between AAS use and depression is inconclusive. There have been anecdotal reports of depression and suicide in teenage steroid users,[119] but little systematic evidence. A 1992 review found that AAS may both relieve and cause depression, and that cessation or diminished use of AAS may also result in depression, but called for additional studies due to disparate data.[120] In the case of suicide, 3.9% of a sample of 77 those classified as AAS users reported attempting suicide during withdrawal (Malone, Dimeff, Lombardo, & Sample, 1995).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabolic_steroid

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Besides testosterone, other androgens include: Dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA)
is a steroid hormone produced in the adrenal cortex from cholesterol.

It is the primary precursor of natural estrogens.

DHEA is also called dehydroisoandrosterone or dehydroandrosterone.
Synonyms: Androgenic hormone; Testoid
Biological target: Androgen receptor, mARs ...

Androgen - Wikipedia

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What stimulates the release of androgens?
Androgen synthesis and secretion in men is regulated by the complex interaction between the hypothalamus–pituitary–testicular axis. The hypothalamus secretes gonadotropin-releasing hormone (GnRH) which stimulates the pituitary gland into secreting luteinizing hormone (LH) and follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH).

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The adrenal cortex is the outer region and also the largest part of an adrenal gland.
It is divided into three separate zones: zona glomerulosa, zona fasciculata and zona reticularis. Each zone is responsible for producing specific hormones.

Adrenal Glands | Johns Hopkins Medicine

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The adrenal glands (also known as suprarenal glands) are endocrine glands that produce a variety of hormones including adrenaline and the steroids aldosterone and cortisol. They are found above the kidneys. Each gland has an outer cortex which produces steroid hormones and an inner medulla.
System: Endocrine system

Well China has synthetic versions I'd guess.

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SOURCE: Fast Food Nation (book)

FAST FOOD NATION

The Dark Side of the All-American Meal

By Eric Schlosser

Illustrated. 356 pages. Houghton Mifflin. $25.

Eric Schlosser's compelling new book, ''Fast Food Nation,'' will not only make you think twice before eating your next hamburger, but it will also make you think about the fallout that the fast food industry has had on America's social and cultural landscape: how it has affected everything from ranching and farming to diets and health, from marketing and labor practices to larger economic trends.

As the subtitle of his book, ''The Dark Side of the All-American Meal,'' clearly indicates, Mr. Schlosser is not sanguine about the consequences of the fast food business.

He argues that ''the centralized purchasing decisions of the large restaurant chains and their demand for standardized products have given a handful of corporations an unprecedented degree of power over the nation's food supply,'' and that as ''the basic thinking behind fast food has become the operating system of today's retail economy,'' small businesses have been marginalized and regional differences smoothed over. A deadening homogenization, he writes, has been injected into the country and increasingly the world at large.

Mr. Schlosser, a correspondent for The Atlantic Monthly, draws on earlier works like Jim Hightower's ''Eat Your Heart Out,'' Stan Luxenberg's ''Roadside Empires,'' Robert L. Emerson's ''New Economics of Fast Food,'' and ''Big Mac: The Unauthorized Story of McDonald's'' by Max Boas and Steve Chain. He has also done a lot of legwork, interviewing dozens of fast food workers, farmers, ranchers and meatpackers in an effort to trace the snowballing effect that fast-food production methods have had on their work.

The resulting book, which began as a two-part article in Rolling Stone magazine, is not a dispassionate examination of the subject but a fierce indictment of the fast food industry. Mr. Schlosser contends that ''the profits of the fast food chains have been made possible by losses imposed on the rest of society,'' including a rising obesity rate and an increase in foodborne illnesses (most notably, those caused by the E. coli O157:H7 bacteria, whose spread has been facilitated by the growing centralization of the meat production process).

He argues that ''since the administration of President Richard Nixon, the fast food industry has worked closely with its allies in Congress and the White House to oppose new worker safety, food safety and minimum wage laws.'' He urges the government to ban advertising aimed at children, to ''create a single food safety agency that has sufficient authority to protect the public health'' and to stop subsidizing the sort of dead-end jobs generated by the fast food business.

On occasion, Mr. Schlosser undermines the substantive points he wants to make by seeming eager to blame that industry for virtually every contemporary ill. Talking about restaurant robberies, he writes that ''crime and fast food have become so ubiquitous in American society that their frequent combination usually goes unnoticed.'' Talking about teenagers who take jobs after school to buy a car, he complains that ''as more and more kids work to get their own wheels, fewer participate in after-school sports and activities''; ''they stay at their jobs late into the night, neglect their homework and come to school exhausted.''

Despite such melodramatic lapses, ''Fast Food Nation'' provides the reader with a vivid sense of how fast food has permeated contemporary life and a fascinating (and sometimes grisly) account of the process whereby cattle and potatoes are transformed into the burgers and fries served up by local fast food franchises. It's an account that includes an unnerving description of the dangerous, injury-filled work performed in slaughterhouses, where job assignments have names like ''first legger, knuckle dropper, navel boner'' and an equally absorbing description of how the New Jersey-based ''flavor industry'' tries to make processed frozen food palatable by manipulating taste, aroma and ''mouthfeel.''

What is perhaps most astonishing about America's fast food business is just how successful it has been: what began in the 1940's as a handful of hot dog and hamburger stands in Southern California has spread, like kudzu, across the land to become a $110 billion industry. According to Mr. Schlosser, Americans now spend more on fast food than they spend on higher education, personal computers, computer software or new cars, or on movies, books, magazines, newspapers, videos and recorded music combined.

Mr. Schlosser writes that ''on any given day in the United States about one-quarter of the adult population visits a fast food restaurant'' and that ''the typical American now consumes approximately three hamburgers and four orders of French fries every week.'' ''An estimated one of every eight workers in the United States has at some point been employed by McDonald's,'' he adds, and ''the company annually hires about one million people, more than any other American organization, public or private.''

As fast food franchises from McDonald's to Pizza Hut to Kentucky Fried Chicken go global, this dynamic has assumed an international flavor. In Brazil, Mr. Schlosser reports, McDonald's has already become the nation's largest private employer. Classes at McDonald's Hamburger University in Oak Park, Ill., are now taught in 20 different languages, and a Chinese anthropologist notes that all the children at a primary school in Beijing recognized an image of Ronald McDonald. For the Chinese, the anthropologist noted, McDonald's represents ''Americana and the promise of modernization.''
Correction: Feb. 2, 2001
A book review on Tuesday about ''Fast Food Nation'' gave an incorrect location from the book for Hamburger University, McDonald's management training center. It is in Oak Brook, Ill., not Oak Park.

https://www.nytimes.com/2001/01/30/books/books-of-the-times-hold-the-pickles-hold-the-lettuce.html

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Footnotes from the Book Fastfood Nation
83 The injury rate of teenage workers:Cited in ProtectingYouth at Work, p. 4. about 200,000 are injured on the job: Ibid., p. 68.
Roughly four or five fast food workers are now murdered… more restaurant workers were murdered on the job: In 1998, the most recent
year for which figures are available, fifty-two police officers and detectives were murdered on the job — and sixty-nine restaurant
workers were murdered on the job, mainly during robberies.The vast majority of restaurant robberies occur at fast food restaurants,
because they are open late, staffed by teenagers, full of cash, and convenient.The homicide figures are cited in Eric F. Sygnatur and Guy
A.Toscano, “Work-Related Homicides:The Facts,”Compensation and WorkingConditions, Spring 2000.

more attractive to armed robbers than convenience stores: See Laurie Grossman, “Easy Marks: Fast-Food Industry is Slow to Take Action
Against GrowingCrime,” Wall Street Journal, September 22, 1994;Kerry Lydon, “Prime Crime Targets; Highly PublicizedRestaurant
Crimes Have Drawn Both Criminal and Customer Attention to Security Lapses,”Restaurants and Institutions, June 15, 1995; Milford
Prewitt, Naomi R.Kooker, Alan J. Liddle, andRobin Lee Allen, “Taking Aim atCrime:Barbaric to Bizarre,Crime Robs Operators’ Peace
of Mind, Profits,” Nation’sRestaurant News, May 22, 2000.

at 7–Eleven stores the average robbery:Cited in Scot Lins andRosemary J.Erickson, “Stores Learn to Inconvenience Robbers: 7–Eleven
Shares Many of Its Robbery Deterrence Strategies,” Security Management, November 1998.

84 about two-thirds of the robberies at fast food restaurants:Cited in Grossman, “Easy Marks”; and Lydon, “Prime Crime Targets.”
about half of all restaurant workers:Cited in EdRubinstein, “High-Tech Systems Look to Head OffRestaurant Shrinkage,” Nation’s
Restaurant News, January 11, 1999.
The typical employee stole about $218:Cited in “NCSReports Employee Theft Doubled in Restaurant/Fast Food Industry,” press release,
NCS and National Food Service SecurityCouncil, July 9, 1999.

“It may be common sense”: Interview with Jerald Greenberg.
OSHA was prompted: See Ralph Vartabedian, “BigBusiness,BigBucks:The Rising Tide ofCorporate Political Donations,” Los Angeles
Times, September 23, 1997; Joan Oleck, “Who’s Afraid of OSHA?”RestaurantBusiness, February 10, 1995.

https://books.google.com/books?id=yNFN1OpnkBkC&pg=PA292&lpg=PA292&dq=Eric+Schlosser,+Fast+Food+Nation,+robbery&source=bl&ots=l2mgoE8s22&sig=ACfU3U3Ru4fBRLfV3eMyn2_kxLGYIzWt0Q&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjwyM3nnLrqAhVwhHIEHUuHCZwQ6AEwC3oECAsQA Q#v=onepage&q=Eric%20Schlosser%2C%20Fast%20Food%20Nation%2C%20 robbery&f=false

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Oh Sir! Did you know the answer to my query?

Aho!

Testosterone is produced by the gonads (by the Leydig cells in testes in men and by the ovaries in women), although small quantities are also produced by the adrenal glands in both sexes. It is an androgen, meaning that it stimulates the development of male characteristics.

Testosterone is linked to many of the changes seen in boys during puberty (including an increase in height, body and pubic hair growth, enlargement of the penis, testes and prostate gland, and changes in sexual and aggressive behaviour).
https://www.yourhormones.info/hormones/testosterone/

You probably guessed it ... BUT how is it commercially sourced?

Testosterone banks?

GOOGLE SAYS:
How is testosterone manufactured?
The vast majority of prescription testosterone (cream, gel, injectable, patch, subcutaneous, etc.) is derived from plant sources such as soybeans and yams. Soybeans and yams are natural substances that are put through a chemical synthesis in a laboratory setting to derive the end product of testosterone.

History[edit]
See also: Testosterone § History, and Anabolic steroid § History
Testosterone was first isolated and synthesized in 1935.[94] Shortly thereafter, in 1937, testosterone first became commercially available as a pharmaceutical drug in the form of pellets and then in ester form for intramuscular injection as the relatively short-acting testosterone propionate.[36][34][95] Methyltestosterone, one of the first synthetic AAS and orally active androgens, was introduced in 1935, but was associated with hepatotoxicity and eventually became largely medically obsolete.[95] In the mid-1950s, the longer-acting testosterone esters testosterone enanthate and testosterone cypionate were introduced.[95] They largely superseded testosterone propionate and became the major testosterone esters used medically for over half a century.[95] In the 1970s, testosterone undecanoate was introduced for oral use in Europe,[95] although intramuscular testosterone undecanoate had already been in use in China for several years.[96] Intramuscular testosterone undecanoate was not introduced in Europe and the United States until much later (in the early to mid 2000s and 2014, respectively).[3][97]
The history of testosterone as a medication has been reviewed.

So yes, the question arises: How can the world mafiosi profit from this?

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Footnotes from the Book Fastfood Nation
83 The injury rate of teenage workers:Cited in ProtectingYouth at Work, p. 4. about 200,000 are injured on the job: Ibid., p. 68.
Roughly four or five fast food workers are now murdered… more restaurant workers were murdered on the job: In 1998, the most recent
year for which figures are available, fifty-two police officers and detectives were murdered on the job — and sixty-nine restaurant
workers were murdered on the job, mainly during robberies.The vast majority of restaurant robberies occur at fast food restaurants,
because they are open late, staffed by teenagers, full of cash, and convenient.The homicide figures are cited in Eric F. Sygnatur and Guy
A.Toscano, “Work-Related Homicides:The Facts,”Compensation and WorkingConditions, Spring 2000.

more attractive to armed robbers than convenience stores: See Laurie Grossman, “Easy Marks: Fast-Food Industry is Slow to Take Action
Against GrowingCrime,” Wall Street Journal, September 22, 1994;Kerry Lydon, “Prime Crime Targets; Highly PublicizedRestaurant
Crimes Have Drawn Both Criminal and Customer Attention to Security Lapses,”Restaurants and Institutions, June 15, 1995; Milford
Prewitt, Naomi R.Kooker, Alan J. Liddle, andRobin Lee Allen, “Taking Aim atCrime:Barbaric to Bizarre,Crime Robs Operators’ Peace
of Mind, Profits,” Nation’sRestaurant News, May 22, 2000.

at 7–Eleven stores the average robbery:Cited in Scot Lins andRosemary J.Erickson, “Stores Learn to Inconvenience Robbers: 7–Eleven
Shares Many of Its Robbery Deterrence Strategies,” Security Management, November 1998.

84 about two-thirds of the robberies at fast food restaurants:Cited in Grossman, “Easy Marks”; and Lydon, “Prime Crime Targets.”
about half of all restaurant workers:Cited in EdRubinstein, “High-Tech Systems Look to Head OffRestaurant Shrinkage,” Nation’s
Restaurant News, January 11, 1999.
The typical employee stole about $218:Cited in “NCSReports Employee Theft Doubled in Restaurant/Fast Food Industry,” press release,
NCS and National Food Service SecurityCouncil, July 9, 1999.

“It may be common sense”: Interview with Jerald Greenberg.
OSHA was prompted: See Ralph Vartabedian, “BigBusiness,BigBucks:The Rising Tide ofCorporate Political Donations,” Los Angeles
Times, September 23, 1997; Joan Oleck, “Who’s Afraid of OSHA?”RestaurantBusiness, February 10, 1995.

https://books.google.com/books?id=yNFN1OpnkBkC&pg=PA292&lpg=PA292&dq=Eric+Schlosser,+Fast+Food+Nation,+robbery&source=bl&ots=l2mgoE8s22&sig=ACfU3U3Ru4fBRLfV3eMyn2_kxLGYIzWt0Q&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjwyM3nnLrqAhVwhHIEHUuHCZwQ6AEwC3oECAsQA Q#v=onepage&q=Eric%20Schlosser%2C%20Fast%20Food%20Nation%2C%20 robbery&f=false

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Maybe the author of the book made a bigger profit when they made a movie of it in 2006?

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/516aFYd%2BpFL._SY445_.jpg

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Maybe the author of the book made a bigger profit when they made a movie of it in 2006?

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/516aFYd%2BpFL._SY445_.jpg

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Footnotes from the Book Fastfood Nation
83 The injury rate of teenage workers:Cited in ProtectingYouth at Work, p. 4. about 200,000 are injured on the job: Ibid., p. 68.
Roughly four or five fast food workers are now murdered… more restaurant workers were murdered on the job: In 1998, the most recent
year for which figures are available, fifty-two police officers and detectives were murdered on the job — and sixty-nine restaurant
workers were murdered on the job, mainly during robberies.The vast majority of restaurant robberies occur at fast food restaurants,
because they are open late, staffed by teenagers, full of cash, and convenient.The homicide figures are cited in Eric F. Sygnatur and Guy
A.Toscano, “Work-Related Homicides:The Facts,”Compensation and WorkingConditions, Spring 2000.

more attractive to armed robbers than convenience stores: See Laurie Grossman, “Easy Marks: Fast-Food Industry is Slow to Take Action
Against GrowingCrime,” Wall Street Journal, September 22, 1994;Kerry Lydon, “Prime Crime Targets; Highly PublicizedRestaurant
Crimes Have Drawn Both Criminal and Customer Attention to Security Lapses,”Restaurants and Institutions, June 15, 1995; Milford
Prewitt, Naomi R.Kooker, Alan J. Liddle, andRobin Lee Allen, “Taking Aim atCrime:Barbaric to Bizarre,Crime Robs Operators’ Peace
of Mind, Profits,” Nation’sRestaurant News, May 22, 2000.

at 7–Eleven stores the average robbery:Cited in Scot Lins andRosemary J.Erickson, “Stores Learn to Inconvenience Robbers: 7–Eleven
Shares Many of Its Robbery Deterrence Strategies,” Security Management, November 1998.

84 about two-thirds of the robberies at fast food restaurants:Cited in Grossman, “Easy Marks”; and Lydon, “Prime Crime Targets.”
about half of all restaurant workers:Cited in EdRubinstein, “High-Tech Systems Look to Head OffRestaurant Shrinkage,” Nation’s
Restaurant News, January 11, 1999.
The typical employee stole about $218:Cited in “NCSReports Employee Theft Doubled in Restaurant/Fast Food Industry,” press release,
NCS and National Food Service SecurityCouncil, July 9, 1999.

“It may be common sense”: Interview with Jerald Greenberg.
OSHA was prompted: See Ralph Vartabedian, “BigBusiness,BigBucks:The Rising Tide ofCorporate Political Donations,” Los Angeles
Times, September 23, 1997; Joan Oleck, “Who’s Afraid of OSHA?”RestaurantBusiness, February 10, 1995.

https://books.google.com/books?id=yNFN1OpnkBkC&pg=PA292&lpg=PA292&dq=Eric+Schlosser,+Fast+Food+Nation,+robbery&source=bl&ots=l2mgoE8s22&sig=ACfU3U3Ru4fBRLfV3eMyn2_kxLGYIzWt0Q&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjwyM3nnLrqAhVwhHIEHUuHCZwQ6AEwC3oECAsQA Q#v=onepage&q=Eric%20Schlosser%2C%20Fast%20Food%20Nation%2C%20 robbery&f=false

To say NOTHING of the asparagus!

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"Karma is Transmitted by Bodily Fluids".
This is not simply an effort at wit ---it is a Truth and it also is the Plain Logic of how 'Karma' is transmitted via consumption.

Do You Agree: "Karma is Transmitted by Bodily Fluids"?

Being an 'accessory to a crime' is usually pointed out by the prosecuting team ---it is usually ignored by the perpetrators themselves.



Case study example:
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Why Eating Meat Was Banned in Japan for Centuries
BY KRISTI ALLEN
MARCH 26, 2019

ON FEBRUARY 18, 1872, A group of Japanese Buddhist monks broke into the Imperial Palace to seek an audience with the emperor. In the ensuing fight with the guards, half of them were killed. At issue was something the monks considered an existential spiritual crisis for their country. A few weeks earlier, the emperor had eaten beef, effectively repealing a 1,200-year-old ban on consuming animals. The monks believed the new trend of eating meat was “destroying the soul of the Japanese people.”

For both religious and practical reasons, the Japanese mostly avoided eating meat for more than 12 centuries. Beef was especially taboo, with certain shrines demanding more than 100 days of fasting as penance for consuming it. The story of Japan’s shift away from meat began with the arrival of Buddhism from Korea in the 6th century. At that time, the Japanese were meat eaters. Venison and wild boar (which was sometimes called yama kujira, or “mountain whale”) were particularly popular. Aristocrats enjoyed hunting and feasting on deer entrails and wild fowl.

Yet Buddhism teaches that humans can be reincarnated into other living beings, including animals. Meat eaters run the risk of consuming their own reincarnated ancestors: not a very palatable thought. Buddhist principles of respect for life and avoidance of waste, especially in the case of food, slowly began to shape Japanese culture and seep into native Shinto beliefs.

In 675 A.D., Emperor Tenmu issued the first official decree banning consumption of beef, horse, dog, chicken, and monkey during the height of farming season from April to September. As time went on, the practice would be solidified and expanded into a year-round taboo against all meat eating.

But the meat ban also had secular roots. Even before Buddhism, meat wasn’t an essential part of the Japanese diet. As a nation of islands, Japan has always relied on fish and seafood as staples. Additionally, writes historian Naomishi Ishige, “protein was ingested from rice rather than from meat or milk.” Raising animals is resource-intensive, so Japanese farmers working with limited space in their mountainous island nation largely avoided it. It was also in the best interest of the country to discourage the eating of useful farm animals, since there were relatively few of them in Japan.

While all meat was considered corrupt and unclean, eating wild animals wasn’t completely unheard of. Plus, the Japanese aristocracy never completely gave up the practice. There are records of taxes paid and gifts sent to emperors in the form of pork, beef, and even milk. Meat was still taboo among the upper classes, but it was often treated as a special food with medicinal properties. (Even Buddhist monks could occasionally consume meat on doctor’s orders.) In the 18th century, the Hikone Clan sent their annual gift of beef pickled in sake to the shogun in packages labeled as medicine. Birds were more acceptable as foodstuff than mammals, and dolphin and whale was frequently eaten, as they were considered fish.

Some mammals were more forbidden than others. According to Ishige, “the Buddhist concept of the transmigration of souls and the taboo on mammal meat became linked, and the belief spread that a person who ate the flesh of a four-legged animal would after death be reincarnated as a four-legged animal.” One government decree stated that anyone who’d eaten wild goat, wolf, rabbit, or raccoon dog (tanuki) was required to repent for five days before visiting a shrine. Those who’d eaten pork or venison, however, were required to repent for 60 days. For eaters of beef and horse meat, it was 150 days. On the rare occasions that they did eat meat, Japanese people cooked it on fires outside the home and avoided looking directly at their altars afterwards so as not to contaminate them.

When Portuguese missionaries arrived in Japan in the early 16th century, they had been counseled that the locals considered drinking milk to be like drinking blood and that eating beef was unthinkable. Even the warlord Toyotomi Hideyoshi supposedly questioned Portuguese missionaries on their practice of eating beef, as cows were so useful as farm animals. Nevertheless, the Portuguese were able to spread some of their cuisine to the locals, including sweets, tempura, and beef, which Kyotoites called waka, from the Portuguese vaca.

Dietary customs began to change faster in the late 19th century. After Emperor Meiji assumed power in 1868, the Japanese government moved to end their two centuries of isolation and adopt Western practices and technology as quickly as possible. Plus, many believed “that one reason why the Japanese had poor physiques compared to Westerners was that they did not eat meat or dairy products,” writes Ishige.

The Meiji government began to chip away at the ancient dietary taboos. They set up companies to produce meat and dairy products. When the emperor himself ate meat to ring in the New Year in 1872, it went a long way toward convincing the Japanese to abandon their meatless customs. It wasn’t an easy transition. Devout Buddhists, such as the monks who attempted to break into the Imperial Palace and rural peasants who relied on their animals for farm work, had long accepted the idea that eating meat was a sin. One prefectural decree from 1872 reads “Although beef is a wonderfully nutritious food, there are still a great number of people barring our attempt at westernization by clinging to conventional customs,” adding, “Such action is contrary to the wishes of the Emperor.”

In the end, the wishes of the Emperor prevailed. As Japan opened up to the world, it began to absorb meat-based dishes from Korea, China, and the West. Soon, expensive Western-style restaurants serving meat popped up in cities, followed by affordable Japanese restaurants serving a medicinal beef stew, which would evolve into the dish sukiyaki. Today, the Japanese eat almost as much meat as they do seafood. While it took a few decades, meat is now as much a part of Japanese cuisine as sushi.

https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/japan-meat-ban

1852 Adm Perry forces Japan to do Trade with USA. 1941 Japan attacks Hawaii.

FYI Japan had already took over Korea & China ---but they had a high sought more.

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Well well well ... Buddha be Blessed