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Beefy
01-04-2008, 08:45 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/04/iowa.analysis/index.html


Sens. Chris Dodd and Joe Biden have bowed out gracefully, while New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, Rep. Ron Paul and Rep. Duncan Hunter continue their quests after getting slaughtered in Iowa.

On Friday, two Republicans will rejoin the race. Sen. John McCain and Rudy Giuliani enter the picture after skipping Iowa.

Anyone else smell anything wrong with this?

Obfuscate
01-04-2008, 08:50 PM
Ron Paul runs as a 3rd party
Obama gets the nomination
Huckabee gets the nomination


Obama wins
you herd it here.

Beefy
01-04-2008, 09:04 PM
I'm seeing and Edwards/Guliani race. You saw it here 1st.

FUCK THE POLICE
01-04-2008, 09:20 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/04/iowa.analysis/index.html



Anyone else smell anything wrong with this?

To be fair to Guliani, he hasn't campaigned in Iowa at all, while Ron Paul has spent a lot of time there. It's still embarrassing to get half of Ron Paul's vote. Ron Paul is just in a completely different league than Hunter and Richardson, though. It's fucking ridiculous.

Bonestorm
01-04-2008, 09:41 PM
To be fair to Guliani, he hasn't campaigned in Iowa at all, while Ron Paul has spent a lot of time there. It's still embarrassing to get half of Ron Paul's vote. Ron Paul is just in a completely different league than Hunter and Richardson, though. It's fucking ridiculous.


Yeah, not to mention that McCain skipped Iowa too yet he managed to pull in 13% of the vote to Giuliani's 4% and the fact that Ron Paul was within 3% of both Fred and McCain. If Ron Paul was "slaughtered" then Giuliani was, I don't know, anally raped with a chainsaw, and Thompson and McCain had their fingernails ripped off and were kicked in the nuts by a draft horse, or something.

Timshel
01-04-2008, 09:45 PM
Anybody know who spent how much in Iowa.

I've got top 3 Dems at
Obama 9
Clinton 7.2
Edwards 3.1

Top 3 Repubs
Romney 7
Huckabee 1.4
and Thompson 1.1

FUCK THE POLICE
01-04-2008, 09:51 PM
Here in Mississippi, of all places, we constantly get letter to the editor about Ron Paul. Nothing on the other candidates. Ron Paul is an internet phenomenon. President of the internet, at least. :)

Timshel
01-04-2008, 09:57 PM
Thompson spent more and, virtually, got no more votes. It is doubtful McCain spent much less and he is counted a winner somehow.

FUCK THE POLICE
01-04-2008, 10:00 PM
I'm crossing my fingers and hoping he exceeds my already inflated expectations in NH. If he gets 15% I'll come. But, to be honest, I think he'll get about 8%. I think he did so well in Iowa because of the caucus format and his loyal supporters.

Bonestorm
01-04-2008, 10:01 PM
Anybody know who spent how much in Iowa.

I've got top 3 Dems at
Obama 9
Clinton 7.2
Edwards 3.1

Top 3 Repubs
Romney 7
Huckabee 1.4
and Thompson 1.1


Edwards looks high. I thought he spent about 1.5 million. Obama, Clinton, Romney and Huckabee all look right. I have no clue about Grandapa Fred.

FUCK THE POLICE
01-04-2008, 10:01 PM
If he runs in the general he'll get crushed. But he could do so much to spread the philosophy of liberty, if he just campaigned. Think of the Goldwater effect. And hell, we know no Republican can win anyway.

Timshel
01-04-2008, 10:03 PM
Edwards looks high. I thought he spent about 1.5 million. Obama, Clinton, Romney and Huckabee all look right. I have no clue about Grandapa Fred.


This is about what they were saying on CNN about the dems and it is repeated in other articles. On the Republican side I can't find much mentioned beyond Huckabee and Romney.

Timshel
01-04-2008, 10:05 PM
If he runs in the general he'll get crushed. But he could do so much to spread the philosophy of liberty, if he just campaigned. Think of the Goldwater effect. And hell, we know no Republican can win anyway.

What makes you think he is not campaigning? I am not so sure he gets crushed anymore than any other Repub in the general and might do far better if he can get the "conservatives" behind him.

Bonestorm
01-04-2008, 10:06 PM
This is about what they were saying on CNN about the dems and it is repeated in other articles. On the Republican side I can't find much mentioned beyond Huckabee and Romney.


I think it's my mistake. His campaign spent only about 1.5 million but since he is accepting matching funds the total spent is probably the full $3+ million.

Beefy
01-04-2008, 10:08 PM
Yeah, not to mention that McCain skipped Iowa too yet he managed to pull in 13% of the vote to Giuliani's 4% and the fact that Ron Paul was within 3% of both Fred and McCain. If Ron Paul was "slaughtered" then Giuliani was, I don't know, anally raped with a chainsaw, and Thompson and McCain had their fingernails ripped off and were kicked in the nuts by a draft horse, or something.

Well said. This is my point, you just said it better than I could.

FUCK THE POLICE
01-04-2008, 10:08 PM
Did you hear, RS, that the New Hampshire Republican Party is petitioning Fox to include Ron Paul in the debate? Fox, of course, is ignoring them. But they still justify it with that space BS. ABC is holding a debate in the same place the day evening before. They are no excluding Ron Paul.

But shit, is Fox going to be PAULITIZED whenever RP places above the "serious" candidates they decided to keep in the debate.