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Care4all
09-01-2006, 09:10 AM
What happened with the stock market scamm that investors made boocoo bucks over 911?

Why hasn't our media followed through on this? It was a huge story within the first few days after 911? about entities selling the stocks short that were involved in the 911 tradgedy or something like that?

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September 14, 2001:

Deutsche Bank Exec Resigns, Prompting Speculations of 9/11 Connection Mayo Shattuck III resigns, effective immediately, as head of the Alex Brown unit of Deutsche Bank. No reason is given.

Some speculate later that this could have to do with the role of Deutsche Bank in the pre-9/11 purchases of put options on the stock of companies most affected by 9/11. Deutsche Bank is also one of the four banks most used by the bin Laden family. [New York Times, 9/15/2001; Wall Street Journal, 9/27/2001]
Entity Tags: Osama bin Laden, Deutsche Bank, Mayo Shattuck III

TRGLDTE
09-01-2006, 10:50 AM
What happened with the stock market scamm that investors made boocoo bucks over 911?

Why hasn't our media followed through on this? It was a huge story within the first few days after 911? about entities selling the stocks short that were involved in the 911 tradgedy or something like that?

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September 14, 2001:

Deutsche Bank Exec Resigns, Prompting Speculations of 9/11 Connection Mayo Shattuck III resigns, effective immediately, as head of the Alex Brown unit of Deutsche Bank. No reason is given.

Some speculate later that this could have to do with the role of Deutsche Bank in the pre-9/11 purchases of put options on the stock of companies most affected by 9/11. Deutsche Bank is also one of the four banks most used by the bin Laden family. [New York Times, 9/15/2001; Wall Street Journal, 9/27/2001]
Entity Tags: Osama bin Laden, Deutsche Bank, Mayo Shattuck III


There was no scandal. I've debunked this before. It was a put option hedge against a restricted stock position. Also, a normal spike in volume that occurs in the ramp up to a triple witching day.

uscitizen
09-01-2006, 11:44 AM
triple witching day ? :)
Those traders must be a supersticious bunch .

Care4all
09-09-2006, 08:06 PM
There was no scandal. I've debunked this before. It was a put option hedge against a restricted stock position. Also, a normal spike in volume that occurs in the ramp up to a triple witching day.
english please?

:) Care

I <3 Hezbollah
09-09-2006, 11:33 PM
What happened with the stock market scamm that investors made boocoo bucks over 911?

Why hasn't our media followed through on this? It was a huge story within the first few days after 911? about entities selling the stocks short that were involved in the 911 tradgedy or something like that?

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September 14, 2001:

Deutsche Bank Exec Resigns, Prompting Speculations of 9/11 Connection Mayo Shattuck III resigns, effective immediately, as head of the Alex Brown unit of Deutsche Bank. No reason is given.

Some speculate later that this could have to do with the role of Deutsche Bank in the pre-9/11 purchases of put options on the stock of companies most affected by 9/11. Deutsche Bank is also one of the four banks most used by the bin Laden family. [New York Times, 9/15/2001; Wall Street Journal, 9/27/2001]
Entity Tags: Osama bin Laden, Deutsche Bank, Mayo Shattuck III


Who cares? This is literally five years old. I couldn't give a rat's ass.

Care4all
09-10-2006, 02:56 AM
Who cares? This is literally five years old. I couldn't give a rat's ass.


and the CROOKS, count on that kind of attitude...WM!!!

Topspin
09-10-2006, 04:45 PM
ufo's landed and unleashed little deshite's to control the oil market

TRGLDTE
09-11-2006, 01:13 PM
Quote:Originally Posted by Troglodyte27
There was no scandal. I've debunked this before. It was a put option hedge against a restricted stock position. Also, a normal spike in volume that occurs in the ramp up to a triple witching day.

english please?

:) Care

(This is simplified, so if anyone wants to throw in about transaction costs, etc, that is outside the scope of this. This is from memory, so if I miss a detail, don't spazz..)

An option - a standard form contract with a buyer and a seller ageeing to transact a round lot (100 shares) of a certain security at a specific price. Since all option contracts are standardized, the two halves of the contract can become separate negotiable instruments. The option has an exercise period, and will expire on date certain. If not exercised, it expires worthless. The option buyer pays the option seller a premium, which the option seller keeps regardless of an further market activity or expiration.

Put Option - an option contract that allows the option buyer to sell shares in a company to the option seller at a predetermined price (called the strike price). If the option buyer chooses to sell the stock (exercise the option), the option seller must buy the shares at the strike price regardless of the current market price of the stock. In another scenario, the option buyer could sell their side of the contract to a third party rather than exercise the option themselves.

Hedge - using the option to insure against a loss, or to limit a loss.

Restricted stock position - Large market makers like Morgan Stanley are often required to hold very large positions in companies for whom they have underwritten an offering. They can not trade the position on the open market before a certain time period after the offering has passed.

So, let's say I own stock that I paid $42 per share, but I can't trade it. What happens if the price tanks to $25 before I can trade it? I'm out $17. Prevent this by hedging. I buy a put option (slightly out of the money) at $40 strike. If the stock tanks to $25, I sell the option, my loss is limited to $2, and I still own the stock that I couldn't trade anyway.

As the expiration date approachs, the buyer has to determine whether they allow expiration or whether the are going to exercise. They have a problem with exercising out as the CBOT limits daily option trading volume per account to 1500 contracts. If I am a large brokerage holding $42,000,000 in stock on company XYZ ( a relatively small $ amount), then I would need 10,000 contracts to cover my position. To 'unwind' my position before the the expiration date, I need a minimum (in this example) of 7 market days. I might not be able to sell all 1500 contracts each day, so I have to start earlier - 10 to 12 market days before. The expiration date for the contracts was Friday, 9/14/01.

Furthermore, since the markets were closed after 9/11, none of the outstanding contracts traded. THEY ALL EXPIRED WORTHLESS!

Care4all
09-11-2006, 06:34 PM
ok! i just found this article on it....i realize that the opinion part seems nutty, but it does explain the put options/ transactions involved in 9/11 well...enough for me, who was clueless, to understand....;)


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FTW, October 9, 2001 - Although uniformly ignored by the mainstream U.S. media, there is abundant and clear evidence that a number of transactions in financial markets indicated specific (criminal) foreknowledge of the September 11 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. In the case of at least one of these trades -- which has left a $2.5 million prize unclaimed -- the firm used to place the "put options" on United Airlines stock was, until 1998, managed by the man who is now in the number three Executive Director position at the Central Intelligence Agency. Until 1997 A.B. "Buzzy" Krongard had been Chairman of the investment bank A.B. Brown. A.B. Brown was acquired by Banker's Trust in 1997. Krongard then became, as part of the merger, Vice Chairman of Banker's Trust-AB Brown, one of 20 major U.S. banks named by Senator Carl Levin this year as being connected to money laundering. Krongard's last position at Banker's Trust (BT) was to oversee "private client relations". In this capacity he had direct hands-on relations with some of the wealthiest people in the world in a kind of specialized banking operation that has been identified by the U.S. Senate and other investigators as being closely connected to the laundering of drug money.

Krongard (re?) joined the CIA in 1998 as counsel to CIA Director George Tenet. He was promoted to CIA Executive Director by President Bush in March of this year. BT was acquired by Deutsche Bank in 1999. The combined firm is the single largest bank in Europe. And, as we shall see, Deutsche Bank played several key roles in events connected to the September 11 attacks.


...THE SCOPE OF KNOWN INSIDER TRADING

Before looking further into these relationships it is necessary to look at the insider trading information that is being ignored by Reuters, The New York Times and other mass media. It is well documented that the CIA has long monitored such trades - in real time - as potential warnings of terrorist attacks and other economic moves contrary to U.S. interests. Previous stories in FTW have specifically highlighted the use of Promis software to monitor such trades.

It is necessary to understand only two key financial terms to understand the significance of these trades, "selling short" and "put options".

"Selling Short" is the borrowing of stock, selling it at current market prices, but not being required to actually produce the stock for some time. If the stock falls precipitously after the short contract is entered, the seller can then fulfill the contract by buying the stock after the price has fallen and complete the contract at the pre-crash price. These contracts often have a window of as long as four months.

"Put Options" are contracts giving the buyer the option to sell stocks at a later date. Purchased at nominal prices of, for example, $1.00 per share, they are sold in blocks of 100 shares. If exercised, they give the holder the option of selling selected stocks at a future date at a price set when the contract is issued. Thus, for an investment of $10,000 it might be possible to tie up 10,000 shares of United or American Airlines at $100 per share, and the seller of the option is then obligated to buy them if the option is executed. If the stock has fallen to $50 when the contract matures, the holder of the option can purchase the shares for $50 and immediately sell them for $100 - regardless of where the market then stands. A call option is the reverse of a put option, which is, in effect, a derivatives bet that the stock price will go up.

A September 21 story by the Israeli Herzliyya International Policy Institute for Counter terrorism, entitled "Black Tuesday: The World's Largest Insider Trading Scam?" documented the following trades connected to the September 11 attacks:

- Between September 6 and 7, the Chicago Board Options Exchange saw purchases of 4,744 put options on United Airlines, but only 396 call options. Assuming that 4,000 of the options were bought by people with advance knowledge of the imminent attacks, these "insiders" would have profited by almost $5 million.

- On September 10, 4,516 put options on American Airlines were bought on the Chicago exchange, compared to only 748 calls. Again, there was no news at that point to justify this imbalance; Again, assuming that 4,000 of these options trades represent "insiders", they would represent a gain of about $4 million.

- [The levels of put options purchased above were more than six times higher than normal.]

- No similar trading in other airlines occurred on the Chicago exchange in the days immediately preceding Black Tuesday.

- Morgan Stanley Dean Witter & Co., which occupied 22 floors of the World Trade Center, saw 2,157 of its October $45 put options bought in the three trading days before Black Tuesday; this compares to an average of 27 contracts per day before September 6. Morgan Stanley's share price fell from $48.90 to $42.50 in the aftermath of the attacks. Assuming that 2,000 of these options contracts were bought based upon knowledge of the approaching attacks, their purchasers could have profited by at least $1.2 million.

- Merrill Lynch & Co., which occupied 22 floors of the World Trade Center, saw 12,215 October $45 put options bought in the four trading days before the attacks; the previous average volume in those shares had been 252 contracts per day [a 1200% increase!]. When trading resumed, Merrill's shares fell from $46.88 to $41.50; assuming that 11,000 option contracts were bought by "insiders", their profit would have been about $5.5 million.

- European regulators are examining trades in Germany's Munich Re, Switzerland's Swiss Re, and AXA of France, all major reinsurers with exposure to the Black Tuesday disaster. [FTW Note: AXA also owns more than 25% of American Airlines stock making the attacks a "double whammy" for them.]

On September 29, 2001 - in a vital story that has gone unnoticed by the major media - the San Francisco Chronicle reported, "Investors have yet to collect more than $2.5 million in profits they made trading options in the stock of United Airlines before the Sept. 11, terrorist attacks, according to a source familiar with the trades and market data".

"The uncollected money raises suspicions that the investors - whose identities and nationalities have not been made public - had advance knowledge of the strikes". They don't dare show up now. The suspension of trading for four days after the attacks made it impossible to cash-out quickly and claim the prize before investigators started looking.

"October series options for UAL Corp. were purchased in highly unusual volumes three trading days before the terrorist attacks for a total outlay of $2,070; investors bought the option contracts, each representing 100 shares, for 90 cents each. [This represents 230,000 shares]. Those options are now selling at more than $12 each. There are still 2,313 so-called "put" options outstanding [valued at $2.77 million and representing 231,300 shares] according to the Options Clearinghouse Corp".

"The source familiar with the United trades identified Deutsche Bank Alex. Brown, the American investment banking arm of German giant Deutsche Bank, as the investment bank used to purchase at least some of these options" This was the operation managed by Krongard until as recently as 1998.

As reported in other news stories, Deutsche Bank was also the hub of insider trading activity connected to Munich Re. just before the attacks.

CIA, THE BANKS AND THE BROKERS

Understanding the interrelationships between CIA and the banking and brokerage world is critical to grasping the already frightening implications of the above revelations. Let's look at the history of CIA, Wall Street and the big banks by looking at some of the key players in CIA's history.

Clark Clifford - The National Security Act of 1947 was written by Clark Clifford, a Democratic Party powerhouse, former Secretary of Defense, and one-time advisor to President Harry Truman. In the 1980s, as Chairman of First American Bancshares, Clifford was instrumental in getting the corrupt CIA drug bank BCCI a license to operate on American shores. His profession: Wall Street lawyer and banker.

John Foster and Allen Dulles - These two brothers "designed" the CIA for Clifford. Both were active in intelligence operations during WW II. Allen Dulles was the U.S. Ambassador to Switzerland where he met frequently with Nazi leaders and looked after U.S. investments in Germany. John Foster went on to become Secretary of State under Dwight Eisenhower and Allen went on to serve as CIA Director under Eisenhower and was later fired by JFK. Their professions: partners in the most powerful - to this day - Wall Street law firm of Sullivan, Cromwell.

Bill Casey - Ronald Reagan's CIA Director and OSS veteran who served as chief wrangler during the Iran-Contra years was, under President Richard Nixon, Chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission. His profession: Wall Street lawyer and stockbroker.

David Doherty - The current Vice President of the New York Stock Exchange for enforcement is the retired General Counsel of the Central Intelligence Agency.

George Herbert Walker Bush - President from 1989 to January 1993, also served as CIA Director for 13 months from 1976-7. He is now a paid consultant to the Carlyle Group, the 11th largest defense contractor in the nation, which also shares joint investments with the bin Laden family.

A.B. "Buzzy" Krongard - The current Executive Director of the Central Intelligence Agency is the former Chairman of the investment bank A.B. Brown and former Vice Chairman of Banker's Trust.

John Deutch - This retired CIA Director from the Clinton Administration currently sits on the board at Citigroup, the nation's second largest bank, which has been repeatedly and overtly involved in the documented laundering of drug money. This includes Citigroup's 2001 purchase of a Mexican bank known to launder drug money, Banamex.

Nora Slatkin - This retired CIA Executive Director also sits on Citibank's board.

Maurice "Hank" Greenburg - The CEO of AIG insurance, manager of the third largest capital investment pool in the world, was floated as a possible CIA Director in 1995. FTW exposed Greenberg's and AIG's long connection to CIA drug trafficking and covert operations in a two-part series that was interrupted just prior to the attacks of September 11. AIG's stock has bounced back remarkably well since the attacks. To read that story, please go to http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ciadrugs/part_2.html.

One wonders how much damning evidence is necessary to respond to what is now irrefutable proof that CIA knew about the attacks and did not stop them. Whatever our government is doing, whatever the CIA is doing, it is clearly NOT in the interests of the American people, especially those who died on September 11.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/illegaltrades.html