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iewitness
12-30-2015, 10:59 PM
here are the definitions I use. ....... . http://biblehub.com/greek/646.htm and http://biblehub.com/hebrew/4878.htm . I am sure there are many more definitions people may use. does anyone have an opinion or fact do share with the discussion which has been established im civility and humility ?... it would be great if everyone paid careful attention to the differences in the last best version [KJV] and the other translations. some of the "newer" translations entirely change the meaning of the word. yeah.. thx.

Norah
12-31-2015, 06:40 PM
I believe that it is turning your back on God and abandoning your faith.

Celticguy
12-31-2015, 08:04 PM
Forsake seemed to sum it up for me. One knew it, but rejected it.

Minister of Truth
12-31-2015, 11:21 PM
It's the punctuation mark, commonly found in conjunctions, such as the first word of this sentence.

:kipyes:

evince
01-01-2016, 07:09 AM
defection from truth


whos truth?

Damocles
01-01-2016, 10:39 AM
noun, plural apostasies.
1.
a total desertion of or departure from one's religion, principles, party, cause, etc.

Mott the Hoople
01-01-2016, 12:03 PM
Apostasy is when you are a southerner but live by American values instead of southern values.

Mott the Hoople
01-01-2016, 12:16 PM
I believe that it is turning your back on God and abandoning your faith.not necessarily. In the religious context one can be an apostate but not turn your back on God. For example, if you converted to Catholicism from Church of Christ that would make you an apostate to the Church of Christ. You would not have turned your back on God though.

Mott the Hoople
01-01-2016, 12:19 PM
It's the punctuation mark, commonly found in conjunctions, such as the first word of this sentence.

:kipyes:thats an apostrophe you nit wit!

Celticguy
01-01-2016, 12:43 PM
not necessarily. In the religious context one can be an apostate but not turn your back on God. For example, if you converted to Catholicism from Church of Christ that would make you an apostate to the Church of Christ. You would not have turned your back on God though.

And it need not concern religion, any belief will do. But it is typically referred to for religion.

Minister of Truth
01-01-2016, 02:29 PM
not necessarily. In the religious context one can be an apostate but not turn your back on God. For example, if you converted to Catholicism from Church of Christ that would make you an apostate to the Church of Christ. You would not have turned your back on God though.

Or just a real Christian. :cof1:

iewitness
01-10-2016, 08:17 AM
good answers. apostasy is also the condition of the entire earth as a whole, immediately prior to judgment/ destruction of the existing order of man. ....... http://biblehub.com/kjv/genesis/6.htm. ....... 16-. http://biblehub.com/kjv/genesis/18.htm. ....... 20-. http://biblehub.com/kjv/luke/17.htm. apostasy is indeed a human turning it's back on God, [The Lord Jesus Christ] and faith in Him.. apostasy is indeed forsaking one's maker. apostasy is indeed a departure from truth and principles, cause and purpose. apostasy is the current condition of earth as a whole.

anatta
01-17-2016, 04:21 PM
according to Daesh - the whole world are apostates - except for Daesh

PostmodernProphet
01-17-2016, 06:00 PM
a pot city?......Denver........

J Craft
01-17-2016, 09:18 PM
The rejection of Gods holy teaching in word and deed, yet claim of His authority as His Church.

Leonthecat
01-17-2016, 11:33 PM
here are the definitions I use. ....... . http://biblehub.com/greek/646.htm and http://biblehub.com/hebrew/4878.htm . I am sure there are many more definitions people may use. does anyone have an opinion or fact do share with the discussion which has been established im civility and humility ?... it would be great if everyone paid careful attention to the differences in the last best version [KJV] and the other translations. some of the "newer" translations entirely change the meaning of the word. yeah.. thx.

Okay gomer2779

FUCK THE POLICE
01-18-2016, 12:34 AM
Apostasy is abandonment of Islam and Allah for an untrue infidel faith, or atheism. It is a heinous crime worthy of stoning to death.

Minister of Truth
01-18-2016, 10:34 AM
Apostasy is abandonment of Islam and Allah for an untrue infidel faith, or atheism. It is a heinous crime worthy of stoning to death.

What if you only get a little bit stoned, like Grind?

baileyjay
03-01-2016, 12:49 AM
Apostasy is abandonment of Islam and Allah for an untrue infidel faith, or atheism.

Minister of Truth
03-01-2016, 01:48 AM
Apostasy is abandonment of Islam and Allah for an untrue infidel faith, or atheism.

Cool, thanks. I believe Watermark already covered this answer...

iewitness
07-18-2018, 10:03 PM
http://biblehub.com/kjv/genesis/12.htm. v. -3- apostasy has become family hate/ self hate/ suicidal tendencies. here is a 4:20 for you botheads:http://biblehub.com/kjv/1_john/4.htm. everyone any person sees on the street or anywhere is their family member according to the flesh. they which set at variance within the family are apostate; they love not their brother. a form of apostasy which brings death.

Jack
07-18-2018, 10:14 PM
here are the definitions I use. ....... . http://biblehub.com/greek/646.htm and http://biblehub.com/hebrew/4878.htm . I am sure there are many more definitions people may use. does anyone have an opinion or fact do share with the discussion which has been established im civility and humility ?... it would be great if everyone paid careful attention to the differences in the last best version [KJV] and the other translations. some of the "newer" translations entirely change the meaning of the word. yeah.. thx.

I'm not real sure, I think it has something to do with religion.

Guno צְבִי
07-18-2018, 10:14 PM
http://biblehub.com/kjv/genesis/12.htm. v. -3- apostasy has become family hate/ self hate/ suicidal tendencies. here is a 4:20 for you botheads:http://biblehub.com/kjv/1_john/4.htm. everyone any person sees on the street or anywhere is their family member according to the flesh. they which set at variance within the family are apostate; they love not their brother. a form of apostasy which brings death.

The christer man god


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Luke 14:26 "If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and ... "If you want to be my disciple, you must hate everyone else by comparison--your father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters--yes, even your own life.

The dead man god on two sticks also said

Matt 10:34

Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. 36 And a person’s enemies will be those of his own household. 37 Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me, and whoever loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. 38 And whoever does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me. 39 Whoever finds his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life for my sake will find it.



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iewitness
07-18-2018, 10:20 PM
get back, ye vermin!

Jack
07-18-2018, 10:43 PM
The christer man god


sezzzzzzzzzz

Luke 14:26 "If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and ... "If you want to be my disciple, you must hate everyone else by comparison--your father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters--yes, even your own life.

The dead man god on two sticks also said

Matt 10:34

Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. 36 And a person’s enemies will be those of his own household. 37 Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me, and whoever loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. 38 And whoever does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me. 39 Whoever finds his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life for my sake will find it.



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Does it say anything about 'pork'?

iewitness
07-18-2018, 10:47 PM
I am glad "goono" gave the example of apostasy today. now all who see can identify the unclean spirit of a beast.

Jack
07-18-2018, 10:53 PM
I am glad "goono" gave the example of apostasy today. now all who see can identify the unclean spirit of a beast.

guno is an Orthodox Jew. He feels superior to others and routinely refers to them as Goyim.

He also seems fixated on 'pork', some kind of religious dietary law he follows. When he was informed of Pig-Farming in Israel, he has a coronary.

Jack
07-18-2018, 10:55 PM
I am glad "goono" gave the example of apostasy today. now all who see can identify the unclean spirit of a beast.

"Praise the Lard: Pig Farming In Israel"
http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/praise-the-lard-pig-farming-in-israel/

Mason Michaels
07-19-2018, 04:14 PM
The christer man god


sezzzzzzzzzz

Luke 14:26 "If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and ... "If you want to be my disciple, you must hate everyone else by comparison--your father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters--yes, even your own life.

The dead man god on two sticks also said

Matt 10:34

Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. 36 And a person’s enemies will be those of his own household. 37 Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me, and whoever loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. 38 And whoever does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me. 39 Whoever finds his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life for my sake will find it.



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Takes a lot more than becoming a Republican Evangelical to become a real follower of Jesus Christ!

Fentoine Lum
07-19-2018, 04:20 PM
I would never ask a religious person for his/her opinion on something like this, but then I never bought into the notion that believing is the same thing as thinking.

Mason Michaels
07-19-2018, 05:13 PM
I would never ask a religious person for his/her opinion on something like this, but then I never bought into the notion that believing is the same thing as thinking.

Thinking and believing aren't the same thing,one is mental the other is spiritual!

kudzu
07-19-2018, 05:17 PM
good answers. apostasy is also the condition of the entire earth as a whole, immediately prior to judgment/ destruction of the existing order of man. ....... http://biblehub.com/kjv/genesis/6.htm. ....... 16-. http://biblehub.com/kjv/genesis/18.htm. ....... 20-. http://biblehub.com/kjv/luke/17.htm. apostasy is indeed a human turning it's back on God, [The Lord Jesus Christ] and faith in Him.. apostasy is indeed forsaking one's maker. apostasy is indeed a departure from truth and principles, cause and purpose. apostasy is the current condition of earth as a whole.

In Islam it is treason... to betray the faith and the community.

Grugore
07-21-2018, 08:01 PM
here are the definitions I use. ....... . http://biblehub.com/greek/646.htm and http://biblehub.com/hebrew/4878.htm . I am sure there are many more definitions people may use. does anyone have an opinion or fact do share with the discussion which has been established im civility and humility ?... it would be great if everyone paid careful attention to the differences in the last best version [KJV] and the other translations. some of the "newer" translations entirely change the meaning of the word. yeah.. thx.

I believe the real definition is someone who pretends to be a Christian, in order to cause trouble in a church or group of believers.

iewitness
07-21-2018, 08:17 PM
I believe the real definition is someone who pretends to be a Christian, in order to cause trouble in a church or group of believers.

ok. I did not create the greek language. I am only a witness.

Grugore
07-21-2018, 08:28 PM
ok. I did not create the greek language. I am only a witness.

false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds” (2 Cor 11:13-15).

False apostles. Meaning they never knew Christ. Every Christian receives the Holy Spirit. It's impossible for someone who knows Christ to reject Him, so Christians cannot be apostates. You would be better off substituting apostate with imposter.

There's also this.

“They profess to know God, but they deny him by their works. They are detestable, disobedient, unfit for any good work” (Titus 1:16)

iewitness
07-21-2018, 09:00 PM
false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds” (2 Cor 11:13-15).

False apostles. Meaning they never knew Christ. Every Christian receives the Holy Spirit. It's impossible for someone who knows Christ to reject Him, so Christians cannot be apostates. You would be better off substituting apostate with imposter.

There's also this.

“They profess to know God, but they deny him by their works. They are detestable, disobedient, unfit for any good work” (Titus 1:16)

apostasy is worthlessness to Father. unprofitable. unusable. unfit. most apostates are not in churches. they hate church people. total apostasy is when the church people are acclimated with the damned.

kudzu
07-23-2018, 07:51 AM
apostasy is worthlessness to Father. unprofitable. unusable. unfit. most apostates are not in churches. they hate church people. total apostasy is when the church people are acclimated with the damned.


Apostasy is treason... to betray the faith and the community.. Lots of church going Christians do that.