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Beefy
10-25-2007, 03:30 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/10/24/gao.terrorist.screening/index.html

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A new government report says there are now more than three quarters of a million names on the U.S. government's terrorist "watch list," raising concerns the list may be becoming too large.


Sen. Joe Lieberman, chairman of the Senate Homeland Security Committee, is concerned about the list's size.

A Government Accountability Office study out Wednesday said the Terrorist Screening Center's watch list contained approximately 755,000 names. But because many potential suspects have multiple names or aliases on the list, investigators are not certain how many distinct individuals are actually represented.

Officials at the Terrorist Screening Center told CNN in September that the number of individuals on the list is about 300,000.

Sen. Joe Lieberman, the chairman of the Senate Homeland Security Committee, said the "sheer size" of the list raises concerns. Lieberman, I-Connecticut, said the list contains an even higher number of records than 755,000.

"It contained 158,000 names including aliases in July 2004," Lieberman said during a hearing on the list. "That grew to 755,000 names by May of this year, and now stands at about 860,000 names just five months later. That's nearly a 500 percent increase in three years."

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Now nearly 1,000,000 Americans are on a "watch list" from this Federal Government. I really want you liberals to remember this. You're the ones who have been calling for more and more government power, a larger and larger government umbrella, and guess what? You got it. And now that you did get it, a fucking neocon madman has the power to abuse it as he sees fit. Congratultions on your victory. Pop the cork.

This really is the roots to Gestapo, KGB shit. Who decides who should be on the watchlist? Why, the same kind, wonderful government that gives you "free" healthcare. Who decides who should be detaind at the airport? Well, don't fear, is the friendly old Uncle Sam, who's actually doing us all a favor, and has your best interests at heart.

Who's that arresting you for no reason? Well, don't worry a wibk about that. Its merely a procedure. We have enemies among us, and we must protect ourselves.

Who's that taking money out of your paycheck? Don't worry, its us, the arbitrators of fairness.

The same people who wish for more and more big government, and then feign surprise when the big government turns into this exact monster we have in the Bush Administration, can go read a fucking book.

Hermes Thoth
10-25-2007, 04:32 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/10/24/gao.terrorist.screening/index.html

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A new government report says there are now more than three quarters of a million names on the U.S. government's terrorist "watch list," raising concerns the list may be becoming too large.


Sen. Joe Lieberman, chairman of the Senate Homeland Security Committee, is concerned about the list's size.

A Government Accountability Office study out Wednesday said the Terrorist Screening Center's watch list contained approximately 755,000 names. But because many potential suspects have multiple names or aliases on the list, investigators are not certain how many distinct individuals are actually represented.

Officials at the Terrorist Screening Center told CNN in September that the number of individuals on the list is about 300,000.

Sen. Joe Lieberman, the chairman of the Senate Homeland Security Committee, said the "sheer size" of the list raises concerns. Lieberman, I-Connecticut, said the list contains an even higher number of records than 755,000.

"It contained 158,000 names including aliases in July 2004," Lieberman said during a hearing on the list. "That grew to 755,000 names by May of this year, and now stands at about 860,000 names just five months later. That's nearly a 500 percent increase in three years."

******************************

Now nearly 1,000,000 Americans are on a "watch list" from this Federal Government. I really want you liberals to remember this. You're the ones who have been calling for more and more government power, a larger and larger government umbrella, and guess what? You got it. And now that you did get it, a fucking neocon madman has the power to abuse it as he sees fit. Congratultions on your victory. Pop the cork.

This really is the roots to Gestapo, KGB shit. Who decides who should be on the watchlist? Why, the same kind, wonderful government that gives you "free" healthcare. Who decides who should be detaind at the airport? Well, don't fear, is the friendly old Uncle Sam, who's actually doing us all a favor, and has your best interests at heart.

Who's that arresting you for no reason? Well, don't worry a wibk about that. Its merely a procedure. We have enemies among us, and we must protect ourselves.

Who's that taking money out of your paycheck? Don't worry, its us, the arbitrators of fairness.

The same people who wish for more and more big government, and then feign surprise when the big government turns into this exact monster we have in the Bush Administration, can go read a fucking book.

To be fair, a lot of conservatives have become fascist little idiots as well. And as far "law and order" goes, that has always been a conservative concept talking point.

Beefy
10-25-2007, 04:36 AM
To be fair, a lot of conservatives have become fascist little idiots as well. And as far "law and order" goes, that has always been a conservative concept talking point.


Fair enough. The conservative retards should check themselves as well.

It smells like a race to who can crate more government, and call it what you want, but more government is a leftist thing.

Hermes Thoth
10-25-2007, 04:38 AM
Fair enough. The conservative retards should check themselves as well.

It smells like a race to who can crate more government, and call it what you want, but more government is a leftist thing.

We spend more on war than handouts and that's a RIGHTIST thing. But these labels are just tricks. You were right the first time, it's a race to create more government, and reduce our rights and freedoms by any means necessary.

Beefy
10-25-2007, 04:41 AM
We spend more on war than handouts and that's a RIGHTIST thing. But these labels are just tricks. You were right the first time, it's a race to create more government, and reduce our rights and freedoms by any means necessary.

Okay, that's clinically right. But my point was that the line is blurred. People are clammoring for more and more of this fucked up state of affairs. But they're doing it under their own umbrella, not realizing that the larger the umbrella, the larger the potention for madmen. And now they have their madman.

Hermes Thoth
10-25-2007, 04:47 AM
Okay, that's clinically right. But my point was that the line is blurred. People are clammoring for more and more of this fucked up state of affairs. But they're doing it under their own umbrella, not realizing that the larger the umbrella, the larger the potention for madmen. And now they have their madman.

One thing that bothers me is our government and elite has stopped looking out for americans first and look at themselves as having a duty to the world at large. This causes them to sell out americans and then turn around and tell people who lost their jobs what a great thing globalization is. But.. that's how their hateful illuminati masters trained them.

To the degree that our government represents foreign interests, it also loses legitimacy over americans. We are not bound to support a government that does not protect us and considers our opinions an impediment to their own personal global power. They can all suck me off.


Oh look. Pretty black helicopters!

Beefy
10-25-2007, 04:55 AM
One thing that bothers me is our government and elite has stopped looking out for americans first and look at themselves as having a duty to the world at large. This causes them to sell out americans and then turn around and tell people who lost their jobs what a great thing globalization is. But.. that's how their hateful illuminati masters trained them.

To the degree that our government represents foreign interests, it also loses legitimacy over americans. We are not bound to support a government that does not protect us and considers our opinions an impediment to their own personal global power. They can all suck me off.


Oh look. Pretty black helicopters!

As it turns out, the irony of the whole animal is that the government couldn't possibly, in any state, local or federal arena, care any less about the individual American. Not one iota less.

Yet, yet, we as a complacent, stupid, unconcerned public, look to them to solve our problems. We grant them our power, and we feign surprise when that power is used in ways we detest.

Hermes Thoth
10-25-2007, 04:58 AM
As it turns out, the irony of the whole animal is that the government couldn't possibly, in any state, local or federal arena, care any less about the individual American. Not one iota less.

Yet, yet, we as a complacent, stupid, unconcerned public, look to them to solve our problems. We grant them our power, and we feign surprise when that power is used in ways we detest.


And the funny thing is people are so mentally fucked up, when you get them down and explain fiat currency and the awesome power of those who control it, or the meaning of "special resolutions" and fema power and all that, they look at you straight in the face and say "Well, SOMEBODY needs to be in control".

They have nearly succeeded in infantilizing the entire country.

Read the "Taking WHole" passages from the Art of War.

We've been taken whole.

Beefy
10-25-2007, 05:06 AM
And the funny thing is people are so mentally fucked up, when you get them down and explain fiat currency and the awesome power of those who control it, or the meaning of "special resolutions" and fema power and all that, they look at you straight in the face and say "Well, SOMEBODY needs to be in control".

They have nearly succeeded in infantilizing the entire country.

Read the "Taking WHole" passages from the Art of War.

We've been taken whole.

Testify brother.

Now, for the love of Peter, stop talking about aliens and teleportation.

But back to the point, people are complacent and willing to subvert their free will to a government that continually betrays them. Its the definition of insanity, yet here they are.

We need government to right this wrong or that wrong. But *GASP* the GOVERNMENT IS INFLICTING THE GREATEST WRONGS AVAILABLE ONTO OTHERS! But they are a wondergul thing, we need them to tell us how to live.

Dresden, Hamburg, Hiroshima.... These are all government acts.

Hermes Thoth
10-25-2007, 05:09 AM
Testify brother.

Now, for the love of Peter, stop talking about aliens and teleportation.

But back to the point, people are complacent and willing to subvert their free will to a government that continually betrays them. Its the definition of insanity, yet here they are.

We need government to right this wrong or that wrong. But *GASP* the GOVERNMENT IS INFLICTING THE GREATEST WRONGS AVAILABLE ONTO OTHERS! But they are a wondergul thing, we need them to tell us how to live.

Dresden, Hamburg, Hiroshima.... These are all government acts.

Anyone in a position to stop the fascism is paid not to. Fear, selfishness, and betrayal are the operative values in our society. This is why we are sick.

ThreadDirector
10-25-2007, 06:49 AM
Enter Dungheap, Stage Left

Dungheap: Oh! I always love this! Another Bushlicker attempt to say that Bush isn't really Conservative! You Conservatives voted for this and its all your fault!

Beefy: Prove that I'm a Bushlicker, idiot!

Dungheap: Oh, then you are saying the republicans aren't really conservative?

Aaaaaaand, Action!

uscitizen
10-25-2007, 07:24 AM
LOL, My thoughts exactly Thread guy.
Perhaps with a different name or two ....

Bonestorm
10-25-2007, 07:25 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/10/24/gao.terrorist.screening/index.html

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A new government report says there are now more than three quarters of a million names on the U.S. government's terrorist "watch list," raising concerns the list may be becoming too large.


Sen. Joe Lieberman, chairman of the Senate Homeland Security Committee, is concerned about the list's size.

A Government Accountability Office study out Wednesday said the Terrorist Screening Center's watch list contained approximately 755,000 names. But because many potential suspects have multiple names or aliases on the list, investigators are not certain how many distinct individuals are actually represented.

Officials at the Terrorist Screening Center told CNN in September that the number of individuals on the list is about 300,000.

Sen. Joe Lieberman, the chairman of the Senate Homeland Security Committee, said the "sheer size" of the list raises concerns. Lieberman, I-Connecticut, said the list contains an even higher number of records than 755,000.

"It contained 158,000 names including aliases in July 2004," Lieberman said during a hearing on the list. "That grew to 755,000 names by May of this year, and now stands at about 860,000 names just five months later. That's nearly a 500 percent increase in three years."

******************************

Now nearly 1,000,000 Americans are on a "watch list" from this Federal Government. I really want you liberals to remember this. You're the ones who have been calling for more and more government power, a larger and larger government umbrella, and guess what? You got it. And now that you did get it, a fucking neocon madman has the power to abuse it as he sees fit. Congratultions on your victory. Pop the cork.

This really is the roots to Gestapo, KGB shit. Who decides who should be on the watchlist? Why, the same kind, wonderful government that gives you "free" healthcare. Who decides who should be detaind at the airport? Well, don't fear, is the friendly old Uncle Sam, who's actually doing us all a favor, and has your best interests at heart.

Who's that arresting you for no reason? Well, don't worry a wibk about that. Its merely a procedure. We have enemies among us, and we must protect ourselves.

Who's that taking money out of your paycheck? Don't worry, its us, the arbitrators of fairness.

The same people who wish for more and more big government, and then feign surprise when the big government turns into this exact monster we have in the Bush Administration, can go read a fucking book.



Who's this Thread Director? Judging by the weak humor and fantasy role-playing stuff, I'm going with Dano.

Anyway, in the event you hadn't noticed beefy, the liberals in Congress (not the mealy-mouthed pissants in the center or even so-called left of center) are the only ones fighting the police state legislation that the Republican president and the Republican Congress pretty much unanimously are in favor of.

Whatever.