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Jarod
08-22-2006, 11:08 AM
Anyone ?

Damocles
08-22-2006, 11:10 AM
Anyone surprised that he can't have done it as his hitting arm and strangulation technique can't work from Alabama?

And BTW, where is he following a religion? I can write all sorts of Atheist dogmatic crap down but that doesn't make me an Atheist.

LadyT
08-22-2006, 11:13 AM
I actually don't think he did it either at this point. I'm guessing the ex-wife wouldn't lie about it, especially when he's confessing.

(note: just my 2 cents)

Care4all
08-22-2006, 11:17 AM
but isn't it weird that he wrote in his yearbook, Shall Be the Conquerer and that is how the Ramsey kidnapping note ended with SBTC....?

Damocles
08-22-2006, 11:18 AM
SBTC means Saved By The Cross... It is a southern Baptist thing.

uscitizen
08-22-2006, 11:23 AM
I will be nice and not say anything about worshipping objects. oops did I say that ;)

Care4all
08-22-2006, 11:23 AM
So you see no correlation?

Jarod
08-22-2006, 11:25 AM
I am not saying the dude was following the baptist religen when he confessed to this murder. I also doubt he did it, but I am not shocked he is a fucked up southern baptist.

They make people, especally people who are different than "norm" for some reason, hate themselves. It comes out in weard ways.

LadyT
08-22-2006, 11:26 AM
Yeah, I do see you're point Care, but I don't know, if your husband was gone a year for Christmas, wouldn't it vaguely ring a bell especially if he were there every other Christmas? But I can't pretend I've been paying that much attention to the case. My reservations end at the ex-wife.

Damocles
08-22-2006, 11:27 AM
No. I see no correlation. The guy supposedly was with his brother who worked for Ramsey (no record of this ever being reality) and therefore at a party in Boulder at the Ramsey's (couldn't be, he was with his new bride that he married that very year). He then picked her up from school (This is CHRISTMAS) in one story, in another he leaves to re-enter and hide near her room...

Problem here. The Ramseys were not home that night, they were out to dinner, there was no party at their house...

Another problem. He wasn't in Boulder and his brother didn't work for Ramsey.

Another problem. He fails to describe the actual murder weapon, strangulation was not the cause of death...

Another problem. School is OUT on Christmas....

and so forth. This is another HUGE bungle by Boulder who can't seem to learn from the past. It must be because it is run by Liberals.

Damocles
08-22-2006, 11:28 AM
He also says he drugged her in one variation of his story, that is also rubbish she was not drugged.

Jarod
08-22-2006, 11:32 AM
Just because his confession is likely not true, it is not a reason to seriously investigate this person. I am glad they arrested him and apperantly bringing him in for questioning.

There clearly is PC for an arrest and this lead sould be investigated.

LadyT
08-22-2006, 11:32 AM
No. I see no correlation. The guy supposedly was with his brother who worked for Ramsey (no record of this ever being reality) and therefore at a party in Boulder at the Ramsey's (couldn't be, he was with his new bride that he married that very year). He then picked her up from school (This is CHRISTMAS) in one story, in another he leaves to re-enter and hide near her room...

Problem here. The Ramseys were not home that night, they were out to dinner, there was no party at their house...

Another problem. He wasn't in Boulder and his brother didn't work for Ramsey.

Another problem. He fails to describe the actual murder weapon, strangulation was not the cause of death...

Another problem. School is OUT on Christmas....

and so forth. This is another HUGE bungle by Boulder who can't seem to learn from the past. It must be because it is run by Liberals.


errrrr ummmm.....what he said......

uscitizen
08-22-2006, 11:34 AM
Yes except for the liberal part. Everyone knows that liberals are souless sinners and not SBTC :)

Damocles
08-22-2006, 11:36 AM
Yes except for the liberal part. Everyone knows that liberals are souless sinners and not SBTC :)
That was just to poke a little fun... ;)

Anyway, this guy isn't good for the Ramsey Murder. He is good for the child pron charges in CA though and I am glad we have him in custody before he got a job teaching kids English, like he wanted.

uscitizen
08-22-2006, 11:38 AM
That was just to poke a little fun...
//

Yep and so was my reply .

LadyT
08-22-2006, 11:39 AM
That was just to poke a little fun... ;)

Anyway, this guy isn't good for the Ramsey Murder. He is good for the child pron charges in CA though and I am glad we have him in custody before he got a job teaching kids English, like he wanted.

That's how I feel. I'm hoping he gets locked up and they still keep looking for JB's killer.

Jarod
08-22-2006, 11:47 AM
I heard the child porn charges are just mistermeanor charges... I have never heard of such a thing.

Child Porn should always be a FELONY.

Dixie - In Memoriam
08-22-2006, 11:50 AM
I am not saying the dude was following the baptist religen when he confessed to this murder. I also doubt he did it, but I am not shocked he is a fucked up southern baptist.

They make people, especally people who are different than "norm" for some reason, hate themselves. It comes out in weard ways.

Where do you get that he is a Southern Baptist, or any religious persuasion? Is this just your stereotyping ability talking, or do you have access to information the rest of us don't know about? Some Athiest blogger must've found where he once worked as a volunteer church counselor or something?

From what I heard, the guy was 'pulling a Robdawg' in Bangkok, and he was probably being a little 'Maineman' too, not your typical 'Christian-like' behavior. Perverts like this, often prey on church youth groups, they are not a part of "God's Flock" at all, and have no intentions of it, they just see kind-hearted easy victims. He's a piece of shit monster they should put out of his misery, but that's just my opinion. I don't believe he killed the little girl in Boulder, but I think he has probably harmed some kids in his travels. He is obviously a disturbed person, and doesn't deserve to be out on the street, but we shall see what ACLU liberal makes certain that this is exactly what happens.

:(

uscitizen
08-22-2006, 11:54 AM
Considering that dixie is another wacko from AL, I wil have to defer to his expert opinion :)

Jarod
08-22-2006, 11:55 AM
You gotta be one to know one!

uscitizen
08-22-2006, 11:57 AM
Yep, that is why I did not dispute Dixie.

Jarod
08-22-2006, 11:58 AM
Yep, that is why I did not dispute Dixie.


You make a strong point!:p

Cancel7
08-22-2006, 04:23 PM
Yeah, I do see you're point Care, but I don't know, if your husband was gone a year for Christmas, wouldn't it vaguely ring a bell especially if he were there every other Christmas? But I can't pretend I've been paying that much attention to the case. My reservations end at the ex-wife.


Yeah, I had the same opinion and for the same reason Tiana, but I heard today that the ex-wife cannot produce any pictures from that Christmas with him in them? She has pics of herself and her kids, but none with him. And that the fbi hasn't dismissed him as the murderer yet, even internally. That's what someone who does follow it closely told me anyway. It's such a strange case, who knows.

Cancel7
08-22-2006, 04:25 PM
Considering that dixie is another wacko from AL, I wil have to defer to his expert opinion :)

LMAO.

You are so funny USC. I love how you really stick the knife in and then smile, really throwing them off balance.

klaatu
08-22-2006, 04:32 PM
I am not saying the dude was following the baptist religen when he confessed to this murder. I also doubt he did it, but I am not shocked he is a fucked up southern baptist.

They make people, especally people who are different than "norm" for some reason, hate themselves. It comes out in weard ways.


No ..once again you have your foot in your mouth .. thats exactly what you meant..... :readit:

Damocles
08-22-2006, 04:45 PM
Yeah, I had the same opinion and for the same reason Tiana, but I heard today that the ex-wife cannot produce any pictures from that Christmas with him in them? She has pics of herself and her kids, but none with him. And that the fbi hasn't dismissed him as the murderer yet, even internally. That's what someone who does follow it closely told me anyway. It's such a strange case, who knows.
The FBI has no role other than advisory on this one... It was ICE people who brought him over and Boulder people will travel with him from LA.

So whether or not the FBI has dismissed him has no real bearing on whether he actually is the killer or whether he was in Boulder.

Cancel7
08-22-2006, 04:49 PM
The FBI has no role other than advisory on this one... It was ICE people who brought him over and Boulder people will travel with him from LA.

So whether or not the FBI has dismissed him has no real bearing on whether he actually is the killer or whether he was in Boulder.


Ok. It doesn't look to me like he is, but stranger things have happened, and it's funny she has no pictures of him. We'll see. It'd be nice if the whole thing was over and wasn't on tv all the time.

Damocles
08-22-2006, 04:55 PM
Yeah, I'm not really positive about it. But the things I hear point to him not being the guy. He is coming here and we will be sure before anything is done though...

It's not like I'm not saturated with news of this... :chesh:

Cancel7
08-22-2006, 04:57 PM
Yeah, I'm not really positive about it. But the things I hear point to him not being the guy. He is coming here and we will be sure before anything is done though...

It's not like I'm not saturated with news of this... :chesh:


Oh ok, I just realized that you're actually in Colorado. Phew, I can't even imagine.

Damocles
08-22-2006, 05:00 PM
Yeah, somehow Colorado has been the big news state for the last decade. I want it over with... I'm sick of Professors making stuff up and plagiarizing then getting all on the news then getting caught... I'm tired of people taking teacher's comments out of whack and it getting on the 24/7 newsies... I'm tired of drunk kids dying at the colleges...

*SIGH*

Brent
08-23-2006, 01:53 AM
Anyone ?

How many violent killers are Christian as opposed to atheist / other religion? Let's be honest, here. Almost every violent killer we can list is either atheist, or a member of some satanic cult. So to answer your question, Yes I am surprised, and you should be, too.

But just because someone claims to be a Christian does not mean they are one.

Brent
08-23-2006, 01:54 AM
Where do you get that he is a Southern Baptist, or any religious persuasion? Is this just your stereotyping ability talking, or do you have access to information the rest of us don't know about? Some Athiest blogger must've found where he once worked as a volunteer church counselor or something?

From what I heard, the guy was 'pulling a Robdawg' in Bangkok, and he was probably being a little 'Maineman' too, not your typical 'Christian-like' behavior. Perverts like this, often prey on church youth groups, they are not a part of "God's Flock" at all, and have no intentions of it, they just see kind-hearted easy victims. He's a piece of shit monster they should put out of his misery, but that's just my opinion. I don't believe he killed the little girl in Boulder, but I think he has probably harmed some kids in his travels. He is obviously a disturbed person, and doesn't deserve to be out on the street, but we shall see what ACLU liberal makes certain that this is exactly what happens.

:(

Well-stated.

AnyOldIron
08-23-2006, 02:35 AM
Almost every violent killer we can list is either atheist, or a member of some satanic cult. So to answer your question, Yes I am surprised, and you should be, too.

Brent, you are so full of it. Every violent killer is atheist.... Roflmao!

Do a trawl through prisons in the US and you will find that the vast majority on murder charges are Christian. That is because Christianity permeates US society strongly. There are a larger percentage of Christians in the US than atheists. (However Care4 informs me that atheism is growing in the US to the detriment of Christianity... :) )

AnyOldIron
08-23-2006, 02:39 AM
Perverts like this, often prey on church youth groups, they are not a part of "God's Flock" at all,

You are getting fond of the 'no true Scotsman' retort Dixie...

Whether this guy is Christian, Atheist or Klingon is largely irrelevant however...

Cancel7
08-23-2006, 06:03 AM
Perverts like this, often prey on church youth groups, they are not a part of "God's Flock" at all,

You are getting fond of the 'no true Scotsman' retort Dixie...

Whether this guy is Christian, Atheist or Klingon is largely irrelevant however...



But if he were Vulcan, then that would be news.

AnyOldIron
08-23-2006, 06:06 AM
But if he were Vulcan, then that would be news.

He'd be at least able to give a logical argument as to why he did it....