Norwegian Terrorist Was A Christian Extremist

[poet]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/26/reminders-that-norwegian-_n_910097.html
Reminders That Norwegian Terrorist Was A Christian Extremist Make Non-Extremist Christians Defensive




Over at Salon, Alex Pareene notes that commentators of the right-ish extraction are taking grave offense at any reminder of the fact that Norwegian terrorist Anders Behring Breivik was a Christian. As Pareene points out, that Breivik was Christian is one of the more basic, unadorned and easy-to-grasp facts about the man:

Breivik chose to be baptized at age 15. He self-identified as "Christian" on his Facebook page. He thought "Christianity should recombine under the banner of a reconstituted and traditionalist Catholic Church" or, later, under a new (traditionalist) European Church.
Breivik is not an American-style evangelical Christian. He is not a "fundamentalist" in that sense. Though he does identify with American cultural Christian conservatives. And he considers himself to be fighting in the name of "our Christian cultural heritage." He supports a reconstituted Knights Templar devoted to winning a war against Islam in the name of Christianity.


Now, here's something I believe we can all agree on: Anders Breivik was not a very good Christian. And to the extent that he was a Christian, the larger feature of his personality was that he was a mass-murdering psychopath. So why try to whitewash away his religious beliefs? And why get defensive when someone makes this mundane factual observation? It's actually quite understandable -- when the beliefs of a death cultist intersect, even tangentially, with one's own beliefs, one tends to rebel at the association. It's a normal human response.
Now let's cast our minds back to May of 2010. Representative Lamar Smith (R-Texas) is mad at Attorney General Eric Holder because Holder is loath to use the words "radical Islam" while discussing the ongoing effort to defeat and destroy the death cult known as al Qaeda. Here's what I said at the time:

I'll readily admit, part of me sort of wishes that Holder would just recognize that he is speaking to a child, accede to his frivolous needs, burp him and then just move on. But it's understandable why Holder is unwilling to cast the entire matter as some epic religious clash -- a key component to counter-terror efforts is to continually marginalize the terrorist dead-enders from the larger Islamic community, with whom we have common cause. Smith would probably argue that the word "radical" does all of Holder's heavy lifting for him, but just try referring to the Hutaree terrorists as a "radical Christian group" (which they are!) and see what kind of complaints you get.Call Anders Breivik a radical Christian (which he is!) and non-radical Christians complain, just like I said they would. Nevertheless, as gratifying as it is to be proven right, it's too bad that this very obvious teachable moment with regard to the mainstream Islamic-American community will be lost on nearly everyone.

Fundies can dish it, but they can't take it. - poet

[poet]

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Ok. I'm not understanding how that fits in with my OP. You don't want thanks...and I don't want distraction. How bout that?

[Damocles]

It's possible, but I still don't see it. I read much of the manifesto and haven't found a theme of "kill them because Christ told us to!"

It seems to me that a Christian Extremist would be more like the idiots who blow up abortion clinics to save the unborn because Christ "told them to". The main theme of it would be where it was a command from God or Allah that makes the religion the theme of the extremism. In his manifesto he believes that his culture is worth "saving", but I have yet to see that it is because "God told me to"...

[poet]

It's possible, but I still don't see it. I read much of the manifesto and haven't found a theme of "kill them because Christ told us to!"

It seems to me that a Christian Extremist would be more like the idiots who blow up abortion clinics to save the unborn because Christ "told them to". The main theme of it would be where it was a command from God or Allah that makes the religion the theme of the extremism. In his manifesto he believes that his culture is worth "saving", but I have yet to see that it is because "God told me to"...

They are all cut from the same cloth. Religious persecution is not even Christian based. Folks don't seem to learn from history. From the Israeli persecution of the Palestinians, to the English persecution of Irish Catholics. It's all BS. Make wrong at the global level.

[The Dude]

Onward christian soldier!

[Damocles]

They are all cut from the same cloth. Religious persecution is not even Christian based. Folks don't seem to learn from history. From the Israeli persecution of the Palestinians, to the English persecution of Irish Catholics. It's all BS. Make wrong at the global level.

Again, if that was the main theme of "why" I would agree, but I have to see that.

I'll use an example I used earlier.

A robber enters a bank demands the cash, but makes mistakes and winds up in a bad situation and takes hostages from the crowd.

When the police show up and start "negotiations", the robber demands a helicopter, seven motorcycles, a plastic sheriff's badge from a box of crackerjacks, three Charlie Brown tee-shirts, an apple pie, seven million dollars, a thirty-two eyelashes from an elephant.

Now, would you say he was an "apple pie extremist" or a bank robber? Maybe he's an "eyelash extremist"?

What if you found out he was an atheist. Would be be an "atheist extremist"... IMO, he's none of those, he's simply a bank robber.

[Guns Guns Guns]

It's possible, but I still don't see it. I read much of the manifesto and haven't found a theme of "kill them because Christ told us to!" It seems to me that a Christian Extremist would be more like the idiots who blow up abortion clinics to save the unborn because Christ "told them to". The main theme of it would be where it was a command from God or Allah that makes the religion the theme of the extremism. In his manifesto he believes that his culture is worth "saving", but I have yet to see that it is because "God told me to"...



Who said he did it because his invisible friend told him to?


The fact is that he did it.


The fact is that he says he is a Christian.


Quit trying to move the goal posts.


He is a conservative killer who also says he's a Christian.


You don't get to pretend he's not a Christian because he didn't say Christ told him to kill.

[Minister of Truth]

They are all cut from the same cloth. Religious persecution is not even Christian based. Folks don't seem to learn from history. From the Israeli persecution of the Palestinians, to the English persecution of Irish Catholics. It's all BS. Make wrong at the global level.

The Israeli's don't hate the Palestinians for religious reasons, as a large minority of them are Christian rather than Muslims. Its all about the land they are living on. Likewise, the English persecution of Ireland began before Henry VIII and the rise of the Anglican Club, back when both countries were solidly Catholic.

[poet]

Again, if that was the main theme of "why" I would agree, but I have to see that.

I'll use an example I used earlier.

A robber enters a bank demands the cash, but makes mistakes and winds up in a bad situation and takes hostages from the crowd.

When the police show up and start "negotiations", the robber demands a helicopter, seven motorcycles, a plastic sheriff's badge from a box of crackerjacks, three Charlie Brown tee-shirts, an apple pie, seven million dollars, a thirty-two eyelashes from an elephant.

Now, would you say he was an "apple pie extremist" or a bank robber? Maybe he's an "eyelash extremist"?

What if you found out he was an atheist. Would be be an "atheist extremist"... IMO, he's none of those, he's simply a bank robber.

What I take from it is everybody claiming to be a Christian, ain't. Period.

Folks like that, and a whole bunch up in here, give "real Christians" a bad name. Everybody claiming to be American ain't. There is a whole bunch of folks "lying" about a lot.

[Damocles]

What I take from it is everybody claiming to be a Christian, ain't. Period.

Folks like that, and a whole bunch up in here, give "real Christians" a bad name. Everybody claiming to be American ain't. There is a whole bunch of folks "lying" about a lot.

While that would be true, I really have no way to judge individuals because first I don't know them well enough and second I am not a Christian.

[Alias]

What I take from it is everybody claiming to be a Christian, ain't. Period.

Folks like that, and a whole bunch up in here, give "real Christians" a bad name. Everybody claiming to be American ain't. There is a whole bunch of folks "lying" about a lot.

If you're really concerned about terrorism, there is enough right here in your own country to be concerned about.
http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2011/07/27/report-shows-terror-recruitment-us-still-problem

[poet]

While that would be true, I really have no way to judge individuals because first I don't know them well enough and second I am not a Christian.
Well, I happen to be one. And I'm a pretty good judge of what it should look like.

[Alias]

Well, I happen to be one. And I'm a pretty good judge of what it should look like.

The word of God tells believers to BEAR good fruit, not to BE a fruit.

[Guns Guns Guns]

The Israeli's don't hate the Palestinians for religious reasons, as a large minority of them are Christian rather than Muslims. Its all about the land they are living on. Likewise, the English persecution of Ireland began before Henry VIII and the rise of the Anglican Club, back when both countries were solidly Catholic.

Christians comprise less than 4% of Palestinian Arabs living within the borders of former Mandate Palestine today. They are approximately 4% of the West Bank population, less than 1% in Gaza, and nearly 10% of Israel's Palestinian Arabs...




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_Christians




"a large minority"....:lolup:




PS, Hope, the "mandate" referred to isn't the one you're hoping for....

[Guns Guns Guns]

The word of God tells believers to BEAR good fruit, not to BE a fruit.



What does the Word of God say about smaller government?

[Alias]

Mark 12:17 "Well, then," Jesus said, "give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar, and give to God what belongs to God." His reply completely amazed them.

[Damocles]

Well, I happen to be one. And I'm a pretty good judge of what it should look like.

And that is?

[Damocles]

What does the Word of God say about smaller government?

What does it say about debt?

[Guns Guns Guns]

Mark 12:17 "Well, then," Jesus said, "give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar, and give to God what belongs to God." His reply completely amazed them.



Are those his words? I don't see "smaller government". You're weak and pathetic.

[Guns Guns Guns]

What does it say about debt?




Is your Google broken?

[Alias]

Are those his words? I don't see "smaller government". You're weak and pathetic.

You don't see a lot of things unless you run into them. I think I'll call you Mr. Magoo.

[Guns Guns Guns]

You don't see a lot of things unless you run into them. I think I'll call you Mr. Magoo.



You lied. You lose again.




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[Minister of Truth]

Are those his words? I don't see "smaller government". You're weak and pathetic.

Do you prefer to use those terms because they describe you?

[Alias]

You lied. You lose again.




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[Alias]

I don't know if this has been posted yet, but it looks like from the shooter's own words that he is not a Christian. Sounds kinda mixed up. Likely insane.

"It is not required that you have a personal relationship with God or Jesus in order to fight for our Christian cultural heritage and the European way. In many ways, our modern societies and European secularism is a result of European Christendom and the enlightenment. It is therefore essential to understand the difference between a ‘Christian fundamentalist theocracy’ (everything we do not want) and a secular European society based on our Christian cultural heritage (what we do want). So no, you don’t need to have a personal relationship with God or Jesus to fight for our Christian cultural heritage. It is enough that you are a Christian-agnostic or a Christian atheist (an atheist who wants to preserve at least the basics of the European Christian cultural legacy (Christian holidays, Christmas and Easter)). The PCCTS, Knights Templar is therefore not a religious organisation [sic] but rather a Christian ‘culturalist’ military order.”

http://deathby1000papercuts.com/2011/07/norway-shooter-argued-against-christian-fundamentalist-theocracy-in-manifesto/

[Guns Guns Guns]

I don't know if this has been posted yet, but it looks like from the shooter's own words that he is not a Christian. Sounds kinda mixed up. Likely insane.

"It is not required that you have a personal relationship with God or Jesus in order to fight for our Christian cultural heritage and the European way. In many ways, our modern societies and European secularism is a result of European Christendom and the enlightenment. It is therefore essential to understand the difference between a ‘Christian fundamentalist theocracy’ (everything we do not want) and a secular European society based on our Christian cultural heritage (what we do want). So no, you don’t need to have a personal relationship with God or Jesus to fight for our Christian cultural heritage. It is enough that you are a Christian-agnostic or a Christian atheist (an atheist who wants to preserve at least the basics of the European Christian cultural legacy (Christian holidays, Christmas and Easter)). The PCCTS, Knights Templar is therefore not a religious organisation [sic] but rather a Christian ‘culturalist’ military order.”

http://deathby1000papercuts.com/2011/07/norway-shooter-argued-against-christian-fundamentalist-theocracy-in-manifesto/



You sound kinda mixed up and likely insane. Does that mean you aren't a Christian, even if you say you are?


You lose again.

[Guns Guns Guns]

Do you prefer to use those terms because they describe you?

They adequately describe Hope Solo's betrayal of America's faith in her. Thanks for reminding me.

[Damocles]

Is your Google broken?

Is yours?

[Guns Guns Guns]

Is yours?



Nope. Thanks for asking, though.

[Minister of Truth]

Legion really seems to want me to keep the Hope Solo screen name for a lengthier spell than I had originally intended. :D

[katsung47]

It's a false flag attack. The killer said he hates Muslims but what his target were the sons and daughters of the government elites.





He was born in Norway and chose as his targets not Muslims whose presence he detests, but the Labor Party leaders who let them into the country, and their children, the future leaders of that party." (end of quote)

today's www.buchanan.org.

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[Alias]

The shooter clearly stated in his manifesto that he did not believe in Jesus, he liked the Chrstian culture. That does not make him a Christian. There is also this take on it.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/08/blaming_righty_in_oslo.html

[katsung47]

677. Norway terror attack to distract July plot (7/30/2011)

In #675, written on 7/19, I predicted a new plot was coming, the time likely would be around 7/21. My prediction was very accurate. The Feds made it a big plot.

7/21. Court of Canada pronounced deportation of Lai Chang-xing.

7/22. Lai was escorted to Beijing.

7/22. Terror attacks took place in Norway which shocked the world.

7/22.
Strong earthquake jolts northeastern Japan

AP – 19 hrs ago 7/22
http://camelotforum.com/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=23&id=53476&Itemid=164 "

7/22. Historical heat dominated New York.


New Yorkers sweltering, and they have company

By Feraldine Baum and Tina Susman (Los Angeles Times)

On Friday, the temperature reached 103 degrees in Central Park and with the humidity, say weather experts, it felt like 115.
(San Jose Mercury News 7/23/2011)

7/23. Trains crashed outside Wenzhou, killed 40 people. It becomes a big case in China.

At that time, my brother is in Europe. My sister joins him in a cruise trip.

I allege the secret police of China and US had created a money laundering case through Lai Chang-xing. They try to frame my family in that case because my mother sold the apartment in Shanghai and got a large sum of money last year.

To cover up the truth, the secret police managed to murder the witness of the house trading. The owner of the apratment in document should be N. Sung (my brother. When my mother bought the house, considering she was old and might pass away anytime, she put my brother's name as owner). My brother then got cancer. He has been arranged a European cruise trip this month which I think is a plot to murder him in boat accident. (see "675. Virus attack and boat sinking (7/19/2011)")

My uncle He Zhi-gang was the man handling the house trading. He was died this February. see "676. Create money laundry case (7/24/2011)")

What I know about the buyer is he is a wenzhounese. I strongly believe he is among the victims of the 7/23 train crash. The odd behave of the Chinese government in this tragedy now causes rage of Chinese people.

As I always said, Feds would create big case to distract the framed case. You all saw it. Norway terror case was a big one. People don't know that if the plot of the Feds had come through, there would have been more big natural disasters - volcano erution, earthquake..... Plus a bigger one - nuclear bomb attack. The heat over New York - would play the same role as the snow storm, would keep people from go outside (stay in air condition situation) and keep tourists away from the city, thus to reduce the casualties if a nuclear bomb attacks. (see post of 2/24/2011 and 3/1/2011)

I will talk about the details of this plot later and how the Feds try to frame me. I worry that they planned different murder tactics such like gaspipe exploision, bank robbery shooting (which they had tried once. see "402. Bank robbery in San Francisco (1) (4/25/06) ", #404, #561, #562)


679. Norway massacre and Virginia Tech massacre (8/4/2011)

I believe the mastermind of the Norway massacre is the same one of the Virginia Tech massacre which happened on 4/16/2007. In that case, gunman killed 32 people. Both cases were used to distract a framed case on me.

Like this one, I, too, had predicted something would have happened on 4/17/2007. Four days before 4/17, in "478. April plot and tax return (4/13/07)" I wrote," That's why five days ago, I related the Attorney General Gonzales' hearing of April 17 to the final date of tax return. I have to say again I was very correct. Two days ago, I learned that my wife will have a tour started on April 17. She refuses to tell me where she will go. The tour will last 2 weeks or so. Unusual long compare with her former travels. So framed case will happen in later April. (from Apr. 17)".

The Feds made the Virginia Tech. massacre on 4/16. It played its distract function most in next day because Newspaper started to report it next day.

The two shooting cases were designed by military expert. In Virginia Tech killing, the criminal locked the exit gates of the building with chains in advance, entraped the students who tried to escape. In Norway, they chose an Island. That make the killing number high. It is out of a military tactic to entrape the enemy and eliminate them.

The gunman in both cases were psychological trained. They were cold blood to the victims.

Quote, "Several witnesses gave accounts to news media of how the gunman would mow down bystanders in a hail of bullets, then coolly pull out his pistol to finish off the wounded and dying who lay heaped on the Ground." (Norway, Mercury News July 24/2011.)

In VA Tech killing, Quote, "He seemed very thorough about it, getting almost everyone down. I was trying to act dead," the freshman mechanical engineering student says. "He left for about 30 seconds, came back in, did almost exactly the same thing. I guess he heard us still talking.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070417.wxshootingticktock17/BNStory/specialComment

Shoot repeatedly on wound and dying people to make the death rate as high as possible. That's their mission. To make the distract to the utmost.

Though Anders Breivik said he hated Muslims, the target he chose was not a mosque but a summer camp held by ruling Labor Party.



He was born in Norway and chose as his targets not Muslims whose presence he detests, but the Labor Party leaders who let them into the country, and their children, the future leaders of that party." (end of quote)

today's www.buchanan.org.


There is political factor in it. I'll talk about it later.

Read my analysis about Virginia Tech. killing at: "480. The real killer behind Virginia Tech. massacre (1) (4/23/07)" to "498. Why VT shooting planned on 4/16 (12) (7/23/07)".

http://katsung47.yuku.com/forums/66

[The Dude]

cnbc just did a special on the right wingnut. He picked a left wing childrens vacation camp to kill the lefts future leaders.
The riechwing faggot posed in his Knights Templar uniform, spewing much the same muslim hate the rightie assholes here spew

[Alias]

cnbc just did a special on the right wingnut. He picked a left wing childrens vacation camp to kill the lefts future leaders.
The riechwing faggot posed in his Knights Templar uniform, spewing much the same muslim hate the rightie assholes here spew

Oh my God, take a couple tokes and a shot of JD and have a nap. You're scaring "the children".

[Guns Guns Guns]

Rightwingers are the ones cowering in fear, clutching their guns in their sweaty hands.


Rightwingers fear Muslims, immigrants, non-whites, and liberals. This one acted out the sick rightwing fantasy.


Every time a JPP Teatard posts a denial they look foolish.

[katsung47]

680. Lai Chang-xing and money laundering case (8/10/2011)

Lai Chang-xing was a smuggling head - a China most wanted escapee. His case was always a big news in Chinese newspaper. Nine years ago, I found his deportation date coincided with the action date of the plot applied on me. The deportation was always cancelled at last minute(in air port) when the plot on me went soured. I realized he became a payment chip in secret deal between US and Chinese secret police. I wrote down my allegation first in "94. Interest exchange (10/19/2002)".

The same show staged again and again whenever there was a renewed plot fell on me. The most drammatical one happened in 2007. In airport before he was escorted to the plane to Beijing, in desperation, Lai hit the pillar with his head to resist the deportation. He knew what waited for him was torture and death. It was a shocking to Chinese media. So the reporters puzzled this time - how could Lai left for Beijing this time (7/22/2011) with smile on his face?

My interpretation is that Lai, from being a payment chip, becomes a co-operator of the Feds' plot. He was charged by Canadian government of money laundering. He should know as a China most wanted, he was under surveillance. How could he go on to commit crime?

On 7/10/2011, my mother told me she had given a sum of money (about $50,000) to my wife, and my wife had remitted it to her cousin in Fujian. (her countryland) The money was from by selling an apartment in Shanghai which we had lived for decades. What alarms me was two days later, my daughter told my wife she got a trophy from the Internet - 16 free tickets for a Mexico cruise. For me, this is obviously a murder arrangement. The Feds intend to eliminate all witness of the house trading and turn the money into illegal money laundering.

The handler of the house trading, my uncle, died this Februry. He was the main witness. My brother, the former paper owner of the sold apartment, was arranged in a European travel with a cruise trip in later July. He might die in "travel accident" if the main plot went through. The buyer of the house was a Wenzhonese. I allege he died in the train crash in Wenzhou on 7/23. One day after Lai Chang-xing's deportation.

My uncle's children and my aunt will come to Bay Area this month (August) to bury my uncle's ash in a cemetery. What waiting for them and other witness are that free cruise tickets. Now the 7/22 plot went soured. New plot are in planning, I believe. How many people have died in 7/22 plot? (Norway massacre and Wenzou train crash) How many people would have died if 7/22 plot had gone through? (Big disaster like earthquake, and nuclear bomb attack on New York)
I also worry the Feds may create a gaspipe explosion near that cemetery because it is not far away from San Bruno where a gaspipe explosion killed 7 people eleven months ago. Since then the media kept on talking about the danger of a gaspipe explosion. I view it as a psychological preparation for a gaspipe exploision murder.


681. Norway police is complicity of Anders Breivik (8/15/2011)

Norway police helped Breivik in his terror attack and cover up the plot.

1. Breivik was in police uniform that helped him in his terror attack.

2. Two days before the Norway terror attack, a special police unit conducted a bombing exercise in downtown Oslo which was in same area where Breivik detonated a bomb. The drill was a cover up operation to ensure the success of terror attack case. Breivik was in police uniform. He would have been misunderstood as being a policeman in anti-terror exercise if he was checked or discovered by security guards. The same tactic was used in 7/7/2005 London subway bombing. That criminal style was out of the same handler.

3. The seemingly incompetence of police assured the slaughter going on in Island. It took police one hour to reach Utoya after they received shooting report. In Virginia Tech.killing, Police blocked an information of shooting death of a student (murderer was at large) Which guaranteed the shooting spree could be carried out two hours later. Quote, "Feds Ordered VA Police To Stand Down
Local authorities were told to take no action to pursue killer by Federal agents.
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Friday, April 20, 2007

4. Hide other shooter.

Witnesses said there were two shooters:

Marius Helander Roset said, “I am sure that there were shots from two different places on the island at the same time”, he said.

The person was following them around was 180 centimeters tall (5’9″), had thick dark hair and non-Nordic appearance. He had a pistol in his right hand and a rifle on his back.
“I believe that there were two people who were shooting”, says Alexander Stavdal (23).

http://morrisonworldnews.com/?p=54401

Yet Police said there is only one - Breivik. He was immediately described as “a lone wolf assassin”, who “acted alone” (BBC July 24, 2011)

In Feds planned case, there used to be back-up team to assure the success of the operation. In Virginia case, I alleged the real shooter was a Chinese man. There were at least two others as support group members: Cho Seung Hui and Emily Hilscher. (see my analysis #480 -#498) Of course, Authorities, like their countparter of Norway, said there was only one shooter.

5. Police knew he was Breivik before they arrested him.

“He surrendered the moment police called his name 3 minutes after they arrived. What we don’t know is how the police knew the terrorist’s name before they arrested him,” said Snow

http://www.infowars.com/police-knew-gunmans-name-before-arrest/

Police knew him. There was a tacit understanding between them. They called his name, he dropped the weapon immeddiately to avoid a friendly killing.

This was a terror attack co-operated (planned) by police. You can see the trace of the Feds in it.

[Guns Guns Guns]

http://www.thepaincomics.com/Sniper.JPG

[katsung47]

682. 7/23 Wenzhou train crash (8/20/2011)

7/22 Norway killing was a sub-plot to distract the main plot - a framed money laundering case. In that case the Feds have to turn a sum of legal money (money from house sale) into illegal money. (laundering money from Lai Chang-xing). They must kill the witness of house trading.

In China, there is a famous group - Wenzhou real estate speculation group. The buyer of the apartment was a Wenzhounese. On 7/22, Lai Chang-xing was deported to China. I was worring my brother's safty - he was the paper owner of the sold apartment and was arranged in a cruise trip in European at that time. Then Wenzhou train crash news came.

I allege it was a murder case because things were odd in that crash.

1. Rescue delayed. When the relatives of the victims heard the news and arrived at the scene, they found the rescue police troops still stood down there. The explaination: they were waiting for their official for instruction.

2. Hurried to finish the rescue earlier. About ten hours after the crash, the authority announced that "There is no more trace of life. The rescue stops." A police captain refused the order to push the wreckage from the bridge (15 meterts high), insisted to going on the search on field. Later, a two years old girl was found still alive in the wreckage. The early order to stop the rescue angers the Chinese people.

3. Cover up the casualty. The official news was there were forty deaths. But the insurance company said there were more in their list.
"7/25 9:50am Hospital staff said, "In fact, until this morning more then hundred had died. They brought the victims here so they would be counted as dying in hospital not on field."
7/25 22:55: A friend of insurance company told me: "Confirmed death so far is 216".
(Watch China, 8/5/2011, A5, "The black curtain of operation after train crash")

4. Destroy the evidence. Hours after the incident, the engine carriage of the train was smashed and cut into pieces and were buried in a ditch. People puzzled. Government had no motive to do so. To check the wreckage to find the cause of accident would help government to improve the train security later on.

Only I know why. It's a crime committed by the secret police. To assure the murder target's death, they delayed the rescue and postpone the rescue earlier. They knew it was not an accident but a perpetration so they buried the engine car to destroy the evidence. They knew the cause already.

For the Feds, people's lives worth nothing. When they want more power, they could kill hundred of Federal employees for an Act. (Patriot Act. OKC bombing was the first attempt to get that act passing through). They succeeded to get it by 911 attack. Virginia killing and Norway killing were both used as distract in thier plots.

683. The rare seen natural disasters aim at New York (8/26/2011)

US economy now is at the edge of a cliff. The Feds is eagerly to seek a war to help it from falling to another economic downturn. That is war on Iran. The main purpose of Iran war is not for oil but for saving the dollar. Iran started to use Euro and Japanese Yen in oil trading in 2007. US had its first financial crisis in 2008. Because the dollar is unstable since then. The debt of the US rapidly piles up. Now it faces another economic crisis.

To start a war needs reason. "Operation Geronimo" was planned to justify a false flag nuclear attack on US. Bin Laden was dead ten years ago, it was a corpseless show. The Feds would blame the nuclear attack as "revenge of the Al Qaida" and the nuclear bomb is "from Pakistan". That's why they chose Abbottabad (Pakistan) as the site where "Bin Laden lived".

The effort to start war on Iran is restless since Bush's second term. It intensifies recently when US debt problem reaches high point. One of the main nuke targets is New York. We saw big natural disaster which ever happened now takes place this year. Severe snow storm attacked New York in December, (Christmas holiday plot, see 2/24/2011 post) Historical heat dominated New York, (7/22 plot signaled with Norway killing, see #677). Now we saw rare earthquake this week and the Hurrican Irene.



Hurricane Irene brings rain, heavy seas to coast

By MITCH WEISS - Associated Press 8/26/2011

On Friday morning, FEMA Director Craig Fugate and Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano pleaded with people to heed warnings.
"People need to leave early, travel a safe distance and get somewhere safe," Fugate said. 'All the preparation and planning will be in vain if people don't heed those evacuation orders."


http://news.yahoo.com/hurricane-irene-brings-rain-heavy-seas-coast-144359092.html


Nuclear bomb is WMD. To avoid a huge compensation they will face later on, the Feds are using their climate weapons to create natural disaster to evacuate people. The above news is a plain description of their purpose.

Next month is anniversary of 911 attack. It's a time fits for the "Al Qaida revenge" described by the Feds. It's a time people should alert the false flag attack from its own "government". Especiallly when there is unusual "natural disaster".

684. Norway killing - eliminate opposition (9/1/2011)

Norway terror attack was created to distract the main plot - the elimination of Kat Sung. There was also another purpose - to punish a satellite country that is disobedient.

The current Norway government is a center-left coalition government. It has a pro-Arab foreign policy and tries to be independent from the US led NWO.(New World Order) It planned to withdraw from the attack on Libya on Aug. 1.


Norway has been resisting that pressure and pushing for a more peaceful approach to the US-led NATO attacks on Libya and refused to provide weapons to NATO, finally announcing last month that Norway would quit its military role in Libya by August 1.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/07/24/norway-terror-attacks-a-false-flag/

War now is the core policy of the US ruling class. Even when it is in a economic down turn and facing a debt crisis and budget problem, it still keeps its huge war and military spending. They still have one unfinished plan in Mid-East - war on Iran. Any defiance from that policy is not allowed. That's why Norway was selected as the target of a "terror attack".

Norway killing is malicious. The camp in Ytoya was organized by the ruling left party. The dead youth are the generation of the future leader. The NWO tyrant eliminate their potential opposition in advance.

In domestic US, their plan to eliminate opposition is evident too. Study and understand the meaning of the following news.

FBI's Mueller: Bin Laden Wants to Strike U.S. Cities With Nuclear Weapons
Ronald Kessler
Tuesday, May 15, 2007
Osama bin Laden and his terrorist group desperately want to obtain nuclear devices and explode them in American cities, especially New York and Washington, D.C., FBI Director Robert S. Mueller III tells NewsMax.

http://www.newsmax.com/popunders/mainpop_internal.htm

Al-Qaida Plans Nuclear Attacks on 7 U.S. Cities

NewsMax Wires

Williams maintains that al-Qaida is not content on blowing up one nuclear device or even simply a "dirty" nuke - but wants to explode real nuclear devices in seven U.S. cities simultaneously

http://w3.newsmax.com/a/dayofislam/?PROMO_CODE=34BE-1


If you have noticed, the relation of recent earthquak, hurricane and FBI Chief's "especially New York and Washington, D.C., "

[katsung47]

685. From schzopherenic to intelligence (9/8/2011)

Someone said he doesn't believe government would spend that much money to frame a case on me. He said a bullet would be much efficient for them.

It's true. Feds did prepared such economic way for me. The most drammatical one was on 1/15/1999 in a form of "bank robbery". The plot was interrupted by a good samaritan which led to the death of the robber (alleged asset of the Feds). Police captain died hours later after his squad killed the robber. (alleged revenge from the Feds) (see "402. Bank robbery in San Francisco (1) (4/25/06) ", #404, #561, #562))

Another shooting death plot took place on 4/13/2006. (see "400. Bank robbery created for "mis-shooting" (4/20/06)")

The third attempt was in June 2008.( see "559. Plan to murder in the name of "Bank robbery" (7/19/08)")

I feel the similar danger recently. I stay home when it's bank's business hour to avoid a "bank robbery" murder. Then someone suggest that:


"Dwaine

Senior Member 07-24-2011, 06:50 PM

Mr.Sung would you be interested in running for president.I am sure you would do a better job than those that have been in office for the last 11 years."


"CinderAsh Senior Member 08-05-2011, 11:32 AM

You have the intelligence. Presumably some answers. Gain some heart and run as a representative for government yourself."

http://www.true2ourselves.com/forum/christianity-politics/6436-new-debt-ceiling-deal.html

My communication in the Internet are scrutinized by the Feds. They used to call other members of the forum to intimidate them in the name of "investigation". People scared. They either leave the forum or remain silent. Occasionally, the agents and their followers dialogue with me with smear and ridicules such like "mental problem", "Schzopheric"..... Suddenly, some people suggest "running for president", "Start in your local area. Be seen and heard.". What's your think?

Criminal style from the assassination of JFK and M.L.King to anthrax letters to Senators and Washington D.C. sniper shooting spree, has its own way. It reminds me of the shooting case that led to the death of Fedral judge Roll and wounding the representative Giffords. The Feds just want to arrange another one like Arizona shooting case. I also worry the attempt of murder with gaspipe exploision.

686. Camp Utoya and Camp Casey (9/15/2011)

The tyrant of the NWO hate peace loving people that much that they put them as hitting target in their plot. We saw it in Norway killing (7/22/2011) and Hurricane Katrina event. (9/24/2005, a failed plot) The 7/7 London bombing was created to justify a dirty bomb attack on an anti-war gathering in US on 9/24.

With my own experience, I found the Feds had framed a case on me. The action date was 9/24/2005. (see detail in #342 and #343) Under my constant pre-warning, the plot went soured.

Quote, "342. Homeowner Association again (9/12/05)

A notice from H.A. forced a new requirement to clean the back yard before 11/1.
City offers a free dumping in time on 9/24.

I don't think it was a coincidence. Feds arranged me to do the dumping work on 9/24. I believe they plan a framed case on that day.
343. Killing two birds by one stone (9/17/05)
if the framed case goes on successfully, on 9/24 there will be a big terror attack in US to distract. "

9/24/2005 also was a day significant with: the landing day of Hurricane Rita and a big anti-war protest in Washington DC.

In early August 2005, Cindy Sheehan had set up a protest camp - Camp Casey (in memory of her dead son Casey) at Bush's ranch in Crawford, Tex.. She left there on 8/30 for a big protest planned on 9/24 in Washington. Her anti-war bus trip hadn't become a news issue. Why? It was distracted by Hurricane Katrina.

On 8/29, Hurricane Katrina drowned New Orlean. News of Katrina also drowned the news of Sheehan's anti-war bus trip. Following Sheehans north bound bus trip, another hurricane Ophelia in parallel way drew the eye balls of public. Three weeks later hurricane Rita which was blew up by the media as stronger than Katrina landed on Texas same day (9/24) the peace demonstration took place in DC. Today, media still talked about Katrina sometimes. Rare people knew there was a big anti-war protest in Washington at the same time. This was how an anti-war movement was distracted by Pentagon's climate alteration weapon.

On 9/17/2005, I warned that a terror attack would happen on 9/24 if a framed case on me would have gone through. I quote the article here: "Have you ever noticed that there will be a big anti-war protest on 9/24? Is that a coincidence? No, it's not. We know FBI infiltrate almost every organization. It is said the leadership of US Communist Party is controlled by FBI. Without the financial aid from FBI, US Communist Party can't survive. So it's natural that the leadership of anti-war movement are infiltrated by FBI too. Is 9/24 a particular day? No. Why it is selected for demonstration? Because Feds arranges a big terror attack on that day. It will not only distract the public attention from a framed case, but also will humiliate the anti-war movement to prove Bush is political correct."

If the framed case had been successful, then Camp Casey would have become Camp Utoya.

[Guns Guns Guns]

I noticed a thread the other day that claimed that liberals tweeted death threats.

On investigation, it turned out the Twitter account in question doesn't exist.

But here we have a case where a conservative not only advocated the killing of liberals, he did it.

[katsung47]

687. Natural disaster weapon and Hurricane Erin on 9/11/2001 (9/22/2011)

In big plot, the Feds used to organize natural disaster to help their plan.
In 7/22/2011 plot, (Signaled with Norway terror attack. The main target was New York, US) they arranged a historical heat in New York City that day. The purpose was to keep people from streets, (stay in air-conditioned room) because they organized a nuclear bomb attack. They evacuated the people in advance to avoid large casualty. This meant less compensation demand the government will face later. The same tactic they had applied on New York in winter time plot. (big snow storm) and August 2011 plot. (signaled with Hurricane Irene)

In 9/24/2005 plot, (signaled with Hurricane Katrina and Hurricane Rita) Three hurricanes were used to distract public notice on an anti-war bus-trip led by Cindy Sheehan. The main target was the protest crowd in Washington DC on 9/24. I think the Feds had originally prepared a dirty bomb attack on them.

In famous 9/11/2001 terror attack, seldom people knew that there was also a hurricane headed to NewYork. That was Hurricane Erin.

Hurricane Erin went in a strange route. It moved slowly in early September close to New York. On 9/11, it was in the nearest point to New York of its way. After the planes hit the WTC, Erine made a 90 degree turn and left New York.

I think Hurricane Erine was used as a cover up force for 911 plot. The Boeing planes that hit the WTC were taken over by the drone pilot system in their last movement. (The command center was in WTC 7 which was destroyed several hours later.) If the plane missing its target that meant the plot went failed, Hurricane Erin would have headed to New York to distract public attention. The hijacked plane would have been shoot down but reported by news that it was lost in hurricane. Military action always takes everything in consideration in advance.

Media and government beat the drum on Hurricane Irene (2011) because it was used as main force to evacuate people in their plan. Hurricane Erin (2001) was neglected because it was used as a spare force for the plot. Rare news talk about it because the news space was reserved for the main plot - WTC collapse. They need a shock and awe effect.

Here is the url of the route chart of Hurricane Erin of 2001:

9/11 Weather Anomalies and Field Effects
by Judy Wood
This page last updated, May 19, 2008

http://drjudywood.com/articles/erin/erin1.html

688. Anti-terror drill - bizarre coincidence (9/29/2011)

In big plot, the Feds used to organize a similar exercise too, to assure its success.
In 7/22/2011 Norway terror attack:


Norwegian Police Confirm Drill Identical to Breivik’s Attack
• Kurt Nimmo
Infowars.com August 26, 2011

The Norwegian newspaper Aftenposten reports today police sources have confirmed that hours before Anders Behring Breivik launched his deadly attack at a political summer camp on Utøya island on July 22, police had conducted a drill for a “practically identical scenario.”

“Sources within the top level management of the police in Oslo have confirmed to Aftenposten that the drill finished at 15:00 that same Friday,” the newspaper reports. “All of the officers from the anti-terror unit that later took part at the bombsite at the government buildings and went out to Utøya to apprehend Anders Behring Breivik had been training on the exact same scenario earlier the same day and in the days preceding,” writes Andreas Bakke Foss.

The bomb attributed to Breivik went off only 26 minutes after the anti-terror drill finished, according to officials.
http://www.infowars.com/norwegian-police-confirm-drill-identical-to-breiviks-attack/

In 7/7/2005 London bombing: (The plot known with Hurricane Katrina, ended on 9/24/2005)


7/7 Mock Terror Drill: What Relationship to the Real Time Terror Attacks?
by Michel Chossudovsky August 8, 2005
A fictional "scenario" of multiple bomb attacks on London's underground took place at exactly the same time as the bomb attack on July 7, 2005.
Peter Power, Managing Director of Visor Consultants, a private firm on contract to the London Metropolitan Police, described in a BBC interview how he had organized and conducted the anti-terror drill, on behalf of an unnamed business client.
The fictional scenario was based on simultaneous bombs going off at exactly the same time at the underground stations where the real attacks were occurring:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=821

In famous 911/2001 terror attack:


Was the NRO's 9/11 Drill Just a Coincidence?

Posted By: ChristopherBollyn Date: Friday, 1-Nov-2002 16:24:12

U.S. SPY Satellite Agency’s Mock 9/11 Drill Exposes Administration Lies
By Christopher Bollyn
American Free Press

The NRO, which works closely with the Dept. of Defense and CIA, had planned a simulated exercise in which a small jet “crashes” into one of the four towers at the agency's headquarters on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001. The government said it was a “bizarre coincidence” that one of the most important U.S. intelligence agencies had planned a mock plane-into-building crash on Sept. 11, according to the Associated Press who reported the story on August 22.

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=25255

All those drills were identical to the coming "terror attack" and happened at same time at same place. They played mission to cover up the main attack. In case the perpetrators were found by the security guard at the site, they would pass the security check by disguising as part of the exercise. Here is how it interrupted the air defense:


9/11 War Games
paralysis of air defenses to ensure the attack succeeded?

"Is this real world or an exercise?" Col. Robert K. Marr Jr. Northeast
Air Defense Sector.


simulation of a plane crash into the NRO headquarters (near Dulles Airport, Virginia) - this was not a "terrorism" exercise but it did result in the evacuation of most NRO employees just as the "real" 9/11 was taking place, making it more difficult for the nation's spy satellites to be used to track the hijacked planes

The publicly available mass media articles about these exercises state that they were similar enough to the actual events that top NORAD personnel were confused, not sure if 9/11 was "part of the drill" or a real world event.

http://www.oilempire.us/wargames.html

Since 911, the “bizarre coincidence" becomes routine job.

[Guns Guns Guns]

You're insane.

[apple0154]

You're insane.

Now that's the type of concise comment that does not require further explanation.

:rofl:

[Lowaicue]

Now that's the type of concise comment that does not require further explanation.

:rofl:

What do you mean?

[apple0154]

What do you mean?

You made your point clear.

[NOVA]

They are all cut from the same cloth. Religious persecution is not even Christian based. Folks don't seem to learn from history. From the Israeli persecution of the Palestinians, to the English persecution of Irish Catholics. It's all BS. Make wrong at the global level.

Israeli persecution of the Palestinians,and the English persecution of Irish Catholics ?


Now here is a pinhead that re-writes his history in a major way.....he don't shit around with lying about details and minor stuff to spin the facts...
he takes the bull by the horns and completely lies about the entire issue.....thats balls....
who would have thought twinkletoes had balls.....

[NOVA]

What I take from it is everybody claiming to be a Christian, ain't. Period.

Folks like that, and a whole bunch up in here, give "real Christians" a bad name. Everybody claiming to be American ain't. There is a whole bunch of folks "lying" about a lot.


Then why title your thread "Norwegian Terrorist Was A Christian Extremist" ???

Is it your natural stupidity showing itself ? Its obvious he isn't and never was a "real Christian" adhering to Christian values and honoring Christs Commandments...

[katsung47]

There is little relation to religion. It's a politic plot to NWO.

US infiltrated other countries with its spy net, even its ally. So we saw there was “terror attack, riot, revolution” there.

Quote, "Are SIMAS Surveillance Detection Units the New Gladio for Norway?

US and NATO intelligence have been shown to possess extraordinary capabilities inside Norway, many of which may be operating outside of the control of the Norwegian government. In early November 2010, the Oslo television channel TV2 exposed the existence of an extensive network of paid assets and informants of US intelligence recruited from the ranks of retired police and other officials. The ostensible goal of this program was the surveillance of Norwegians who were taking part in demonstrations and other activities critical of the United States and its policies. One of the Norwegians recruited was the former chief of the anti-terror section of the Oslo police.7 Although the goal was supposedly merely surveillance, it is possible to imagine some other and far more sinister activities that could be carried out by such a network of retired cops, including the identification and subversion of rotten apples on the active-duty police force. Some of the capabilities of a network of this type would not be totally alien to the sort of events that have just occurred in Norway.

The official name for the type of espionage cell which the United States was creating in Norway is Surveillance Detection Unit (SDU). The SDUs in turn operate within the framework of the Security Incident Management Analysis System (SIMAS). SIMAS is known to be used for spying and surveillance by US Embassies not just in the Nordic bloc of Norway, Denmark, and Sweden, but worldwide. The terror events also raise the question of whether SIMAS has an operational dimension. Could this apparatus represents a modern version of the Cold War stay behind networks set up in all NATO countries and best-known under the name of the Italian branch, Gladio?
The Norwegian government needs to find out. Thus far Norwegian ministers have asserted that they never approved the SIMAS network of SDUs. “We never knew about it,” claimed Norway’s Justice Minister Knut Storberget and Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Støre in chorus. Hillary Clinton stated instead that the Norwegians had been informed.

CIA’s Wikileaks Limited Hangout Has Rationale for Toppling Norway’s Government

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/07/24/norway-terror-attacks-a-false-flag/

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/07/24/norway-terror-attacks-a-false-flag/

[Jayferr]

Then why title your thread "Norwegian Terrorist Was A Christian Extremist" ???

Is it your natural stupidity showing itself ? Its obvious he isn't and never was a "real Christian" adhering to Christian values and honoring Christs Commandments...

Wow, now that's a good point. I don't to be involved in any fight here but this post really makes an argument about this thread. Now I'm confused. :palm:

[poet]

Then why title your thread "Norwegian Terrorist Was A Christian Extremist" ???

Is it your natural stupidity showing itself ? Its obvious he isn't and never was a "real Christian" adhering to Christian values and honoring Christs Commandments...

The actual Op-Ed by Jason Linkins was : Reminders That Norwegian Terrorist Was A Christian Extremist Make Non-Extremist Christians Defensive

so, the title of my thread, aptly named, addresses the assertion that the Norwegian terrorist was also a Christian extremist.
Natural stupidity? That would be reflected by you, a typical dumb conservative. And evidently, you didn't read the article before commenting on it. Another example of your own stupidity. Thanks.

[poet]

Israeli persecution of the Palestinians,and the English persecution of Irish Catholics ?


Now here is a pinhead that re-writes his history in a major way.....he don't shit around with lying about details and minor stuff to spin the facts...
he takes the bull by the horns and completely lies about the entire issue.....thats balls....
who would have thought twinkletoes had balls.....

Are you stupid or what? The Israeli Government has been actively and aggressively repressing and oppressing the Palestinians, since its' inception as a sovereign nation.
My former bandmate, who was the offspring of Christian (Catholic) Palestinian refugees, was born in Kuwait (in exile) and reared in Houston, Texas. He told me the story of the Israeli aggression against his people that exists to this day. If you don't know...google it.

After James I, died, without an heir, England fell into turmoil with Oliver Cromwell as regent and he was responsible for Irish persecution and mass murders :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_cromwell

Debate over Cromwell's effect on Ireland

The extent of Cromwell's brutality[48][49] in Ireland has been strongly debated. Some historians argue that Cromwell never accepted that he was responsible for the killing of civilians in Ireland, claiming that he had acted harshly but only against those "in arms".[50] Other historians, however, cite Cromwell's contemporary reports to London including that of 27 September 1649 in which he lists the slaying of 3,000 military personnel, followed by the phrase "and many inhabitants".[51] In September 1649, he justified his sacking of Drogheda as revenge for the massacres of Protestant settlers in Ulster in 1641, calling the massacre "the righteous judgement of God on these barbarous wretches, who have imbued their hands with so much innocent blood."[41] However, Drogheda had never been held by the rebels in 1641—many of its garrison were in fact English royalists. On the other hand, the worst atrocities committed in Ireland, such as mass evictions, killings and deportation of over 50,000 men, women and children as slaves[52] to Bermuda and Barbados, were carried out under the command of other generals after Cromwell had left for England.[53] On entering Ireland, Cromwell demanded that no supplies were to be seized from the civilian inhabitants and that everything should be fairly purchased; "I do hereby warn....all Officers, Soldiers and others under my command not to do any wrong or violence toward Country People or any persons whatsoever, unless they be actually in arms or office with the enemy.....as they shall answer to the contrary at their utmost peril." Several English soldiers were hanged for disobeying these orders.[54]


Sometimes, knowing history helps to clear up any discrepancies or wild beliefs. -poet

[dixon76710]

Who said he did it because his invisible friend told him to?


The fact is that he did it.


The fact is that he says he is a Christian.


Quit trying to move the goal posts.


So to do the Islamic Fundamentalist who are carrying out this worldwide campaign of Islamic terrorism claim to be muslims, and yet, the New York Times doesnt refer to them as muslims.

[Alias]

The shooter was not a Christian terrorist. He stated that he was not a Christian, but he liked the Christian culture.

[Guns Guns Guns]

The shooter was not a Christian terrorist. He stated that he was not a Christian, but he liked the Christian culture.

Really?

[Alias]

Really?

Yes, really. Duh.

[The Dude]

he was a hard core christian fundementalist, like a lot of folks here

[katsung47]

It seems insane is evolving. They now evolve to be rational killers.


Norway killer found insane, unfit for prison

By BJOERN H. AMLAND and KARL RITTER 11/29/2011

The report, written by two psychiatrists who spent 36 hours talking to Breivik, will be reviewed by an expert panel before the Oslo district court rules on his mental state.

Their conclusions surprised many outside experts and contrasted with earlier comments by the head of the review panel, who told The Associated Press in July that it was unlikely that Breivik would be declared insane because the attacks were so carefully planned and executed.

But prosecutors insisted the psychiatric report describes a man living in a "delusional universe" — a paranoid schizophrenic who's lost touch with reality.
Disguised as a police officer, Breivik lured youths from their hiding places, then executed them. He also reportedly had calculated how many victims he would be able to kill before being arrested.

"It is difficult to see this as criminal insanity," Anders Forsman told AP. "He seems to have carried out the killings in a rational way. He is an efficient killing machine."

http://news.yahoo.com/norway-killer-found-insane-unfit-prison-173450617.html

[katsung47]

Why do they make killer insane.

Quote, "William Mount
Thu Dec 1, 2011 07:27174.253.218.31

If this shooter goes to court he will reveal the particulars of hte case.

He will state who sold them the explosives, who gave them access to the Government Buildings, who wore the Police Uniform and ran down hte street, who torched off the explosives, who was with him there shooting kids, and who payed for it.

They must keep him in lock up - unavailable to the Public.

King Harold the Coward of Norway has ordered no reprisal for those who ordered the blasts and shootings in Norway.

The PM, the King and the Norwegian Army lie paralyzed as they are now Pipmed out by David Rothschilds in London to do his bidding because they are cowards, unable to stand tall against Lucifer and his minions.

There is no other way to put it. They are currently cowards.

Pray - visualize - that the King and Prime Minister of Norway reach down between their legs and realizes they they are Men and stand up to these Murderers for the sake of the great people of Norway.

Dr. William B. Mount-
http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=139378;title=AP FN