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poet
07-24-2011, 10:33 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jalees-rehman/why-we-were-attacked-in-n_b_907567.html



"The news about the terrorist attacks that took place yesterday in Norway kept on getting worse and worse. First, we heard that a massive bomb blast took place in the heart of Oslo, causing major destruction and chaos. Then came the news about a subsequent related attack on the island of Utøya, where a gunman had killed at least 10 people attending a youth camp of the Workers' Youth League (Arbeidernes Ungdomsfylking), which is affiliated with the governing social democratic Labor Party of Norway (Arbeiderpartiet). As if this was not horrifying enough, we later found out that at least 80 people had been murdered in the youth camp and that many of the shooting victims were children. The gunman was apprehended and the suspect has been identified as Anders Behring Breivik, who has a purported Facebook account and he has left a number of comments on political websites, which are currently being analyzed by the police. It is not clear what his motives were, whether he acted alone or as part of a group and whether he suffers from a mental illness. During the next days, we are bound to find out more, as Norway recovers from this shock and its police force conducts all the necessary investigations.

One of the key questions that arose initially was whether the terrorist attacks had been conducted by religious extremists or by domestic political extremists. The initial preliminary clues do not suggest any obvious link between the suspect Anders Behring Breivik and religious extremism. However, the comments that he allegedly made on the political website www.document.no suggest that Breivik strongly disliked multiculturalism, immigrant culture, left-wing or "Marxist" ideas, and felt that traditional Norwegian values were being threatened by multiculturalists, Muslims and left-wing politics.
Breivik's comments are quite characteristic of the growing far-right political movements in Europe, therefore it is quite possible that the motives for his terrorist acts may have been in part influenced by this right-wing extremist ideology. Breivik's dislike for left-wing politicians may also explain why he chose a youth camp of the social democratic Labor Party as a target for his attack. The tragic irony is that in many ways, right-wing extremists in Europe who promote a culture of hatred against mostly Muslim immigrants are not too dissimilar from Muslim right wing extremists, who in turn try to promote a culture of hatred against "unbelievers." Both groups strongly resist the progressive-liberal values that are represented by the center-left political parties, both groups want to replace multiculturalism and tolerance of the "other" with a more homogeneous and traditional society, and members of both groups have shown that they are willing to use violent means to achieve their goals. One of the biggest shocks to all of us was that these attacks occurred in Norway, which is characterized by an open and peaceful society. However, if one looks at it from the perspective of religious or political right-wing extremists, Norway is exactly the kind of country that would offend such extremists. The fact that the society in Norway is tolerant, peaceful, promotes progressive-liberal values, provides strong welfare support, while maintaining a high level of quality of life must be a thorn in the flesh of right-wing extremists. This is why the response to these horrifying events has to be cautious. When I heard the Norwegian Prime Minister Stoltenberg respond to the attacks by saying "You will not destroy us, you will not destroy our democracy and our idea for a better world," I felt a great sense of relief and some pride in being a progressive-liberal European. If the ultimate goal of right-wing extremists is to undermine our core values and try to force our hand by giving up the tolerant and open societies we have built in Europe, we cannot let them win.

One of the most painful aspects of the massacre yesterday is the murder of the children. These teenagers were attending the political youth camp to promote values such as tolerance, social justice and peace. Their participation was a sign of their commitment to further improve our society, and in this sense, they are heroes similar to the firefighters and policeman who died during the September 11, 2001 attacks in the line of duty. We will mourn the victims of all these terror attacks and we can hope and pray that their families will recover from their grief. At the same time, we also need to look towards the future and work together so that we can try to prevent such attacks from happening again. Recognizing the right-wing extremist threat is just the first step. We then have to develop short-term and long-term strategies to counter this threat without sacrificing our core liberal progressive values. We owe this to the victims."


Does anyone think it can't happen here, in the U.S.???? Don't think...it already has.- poet
Beware of the right wing extremists.

Guns Guns Guns
07-24-2011, 11:45 AM
I fear no Teatard.

poet
07-24-2011, 11:48 AM
Nor I. And I have a fresh can of whoop ass, at the ready.

WinterBorn
07-24-2011, 09:32 PM
Extremists are always a dangerous breed. Right-wing extremists are no exception.

I hope those children who survived will continue on with what they were doing there.

apple0154
07-25-2011, 05:25 AM
..... Norway is exactly the kind of country that would offend such extremists. The fact that the society in Norway is tolerant, peaceful, promotes progressive-liberal values, provides strong welfare support, while maintaining a high level of quality of life must be a thorn in the flesh of right-wing extremists.

Right on! The same can be said about the debate here regarding social programs, including ObamaCare. The Right Wing wackos know that once ObamaCare is fully implemented there will be no turning back. That's why there is talk about forming a "Super Congress". The people will not go backwards and get rid of social programs.

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jalees-rehman/why-we-were-attacked-in-n_b_907567.html

"The news about the terrorist attacks that took place yesterday in Norway kept on getting worse and worse. First, we heard that a massive bomb blast took place in the heart of Oslo, causing major destruction and chaos. Then came the news about a subsequent related attack on the island of Utøya, where a gunman had killed at least 10 people attending a youth camp of the Workers' Youth League (Arbeidernes Ungdomsfylking), which is affiliated with the governing social democratic Labor Party of Norway (Arbeiderpartiet). As if this was not horrifying enough, we later found out that at least 80 people had been murdered in the youth camp and that many of the shooting victims were children. The gunman was apprehended and the suspect has been identified as Anders Behring Breivik, who has a purported Facebook account and he has left a number of comments on political websites, which are currently being analyzed by the police. It is not clear what his motives were, whether he acted alone or as part of a group and whether he suffers from a mental illness. During the next days, we are bound to find out more, as Norway recovers from this shock and its police force conducts all the necessary investigations.

One of the key questions that arose initially was whether the terrorist attacks had been conducted by religious extremists or by domestic political extremists. The initial preliminary clues do not suggest any obvious link between the suspect Anders Behring Breivik and religious extremism. However, the comments that he allegedly made on the political website www.document.no suggest that Breivik strongly disliked multiculturalism, immigrant culture, left-wing or "Marxist" ideas, and felt that traditional Norwegian values were being threatened by multiculturalists, Muslims and left-wing politics.
Breivik's comments are quite characteristic of the growing far-right political movements in Europe, therefore it is quite possible that the motives for his terrorist acts may have been in part influenced by this right-wing extremist ideology. Breivik's dislike for left-wing politicians may also explain why he chose a youth camp of the social democratic Labor Party as a target for his attack. The tragic irony is that in many ways, right-wing extremists in Europe who promote a culture of hatred against mostly Muslim immigrants are not too dissimilar from Muslim right wing extremists, who in turn try to promote a culture of hatred against "unbelievers." Both groups strongly resist the progressive-liberal values that are represented by the center-left political parties, both groups want to replace multiculturalism and tolerance of the "other" with a more homogeneous and traditional society, and members of both groups have shown that they are willing to use violent means to achieve their goals. One of the biggest shocks to all of us was that these attacks occurred in Norway, which is characterized by an open and peaceful society. However, if one looks at it from the perspective of religious or political right-wing extremists, Norway is exactly the kind of country that would offend such extremists. The fact that the society in Norway is tolerant, peaceful, promotes progressive-liberal values, provides strong welfare support, while maintaining a high level of quality of life must be a thorn in the flesh of right-wing extremists. This is why the response to these horrifying events has to be cautious. When I heard the Norwegian Prime Minister Stoltenberg respond to the attacks by saying "You will not destroy us, you will not destroy our democracy and our idea for a better world," I felt a great sense of relief and some pride in being a progressive-liberal European. If the ultimate goal of right-wing extremists is to undermine our core values and try to force our hand by giving up the tolerant and open societies we have built in Europe, we cannot let them win.

One of the most painful aspects of the massacre yesterday is the murder of the children. These teenagers were attending the political youth camp to promote values such as tolerance, social justice and peace. Their participation was a sign of their commitment to further improve our society, and in this sense, they are heroes similar to the firefighters and policeman who died during the September 11, 2001 attacks in the line of duty. We will mourn the victims of all these terror attacks and we can hope and pray that their families will recover from their grief. At the same time, we also need to look towards the future and work together so that we can try to prevent such attacks from happening again. Recognizing the right-wing extremist threat is just the first step. We then have to develop short-term and long-term strategies to counter this threat without sacrificing our core liberal progressive values. We owe this to the victims."

Does anyone think it can't happen here, in the U.S.???? Don't think...it already has.- poet
Beware of the right wing extremists.

katsung47
08-01-2011, 04:46 PM
677. Norway terror attack to distract July plot (7/30/2011)

In #675, written on 7/19, I predicted a new plot was coming, the time likely would be around 7/21. My prediction was very accurate. The Feds made it a big plot.

7/21. Court of Canada pronounced deportation of Lai Cheong-xing.

7/22. Lai was escorted to Beijing.

7/22. Terror attacks took place in Norway which shocked the world.

7/22.
Strong earthquake jolts northeastern Japan

AP – 19 hrs ago 7/22
http://camelotforum.com/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=23&id=53476&Itemid=164 "

7/22. Historical heat dominated New York.


New Yorkers sweltering, and they have company

By Feraldine Baum and Tina Susman (Los Angeles Times)

On Friday, the temperature reached 103 degrees in Central Park and with the humidity, say weather experts, it felt like 115.
(San Jose Mercury News 7/23/2011)

7/23. Trains crashed outside Wenzhou, killed 40 people. It becomes a big case in China.

At that time, my brother is in Europe. My sister joins him in a cruise trip.

I allege the secret police of China and US had created a money laundry case through Lai Cheong-xing. They try to frame my family in that case because my mother sold the apartment in Shanghai and got a large sum of money last year.

To cover up the truth, the secret police managed to murder the witness of the house trading. The owner of the apratment in document should be N. Sung (my brother. When my mother bought the house, considering she was old and might pass away anytime, she put my brother's name as owner). My brother then got cancer. He is arranged a European cruise trip this month which I think is a plot to murder him in boat accident. (see "675. Virus attack and boat sinking (7/19/2011)")

My uncle He Zhi-gang was the man handling the house trading. He was died this February. see "676. Create money laundry case (7/24/2011)")

What I know about the buyer is he is a wenzhounese. I strongly believe he is among the victims of the 7/23 train crash. The odd behave of the Chinese government in this tragedy now causes rage of Chinese people.

As I always said, Feds would create big case to distract the framed case. You all saw it. Norway terror case was a big one. People don't know that if the plot of the Feds had come through, there would have been more big natural disasters - volcano erution, earthquake..... Plus a bigger one - nuclear bomb attack. The heat over New York - would play the same role as the snow storm, would keep people from go outside (stay in air condition situation) and keep tourists away from the city, thus to reduce the casualties if a nuclear bomb attacks. (see post of 2/24/2011 and 3/1/2011)

I will talk about the details of this plot later and how the Feds try to frame me. I worry that they planned different murder tactics such like gaspipe exploision, bank robbery shooting (which they had tried once. see "402. Bank robbery in San Francisco (1) (4/25/06) ", #404, #561, #562)