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Beefy
12-26-2006, 12:26 PM
Well, the number of American Deaths in Iraq now exceeds the number on September 11th. How many more will be coming home in body bags before the war-loving patriots begin to understand what is happening out there? My guess is that it won't ever happen, but lets hope to god that it does. This is sick. How anyone is still in love with this war is beyond me.

Cypress
12-26-2006, 12:29 PM
Standard NeoCon responses:

Hey! MORE people die in car accidents every year!

The city of Baltimore is MORE dangerous than Bahgdad! Our troops are just as safe in Bagdad, as they'd be in Baltimore!

Anyway, Saddam violated 17 UN resolutions, took a few pot-shots are our planes, and the French helped hide the WMD in Syria!

uscitizen
12-26-2006, 12:40 PM
I think the ruskies were involved in hiding the WMD's as well. At least I recall dixie ranting something about that in the past.

Beefy
12-26-2006, 01:17 PM
That "hiding the WMD" defense is so monumentally stupid that I think anyone blathering on about it should be mortified that they're actually resorting to that retarded of an argument simply to defend their false Idol.

uscitizen
12-26-2006, 01:21 PM
You know for some strange reason all the atta boy Bush and pro Iraq war talk has dissappeared at the country hangout store near me. I wonder why that could be? Lots more people claim to be independents and Libertarians now too ;)

Cypress
12-26-2006, 01:25 PM
You know for some strange reason all the atta boy Bush and pro Iraq war talk has dissappeared at the country hangout store near me. I wonder why that could be? Lots more people claim to be independents and Libertarians now too ;)

Embarrassed republicans, more likely.

uscitizen
12-26-2006, 03:05 PM
Embarrassed republicans, more likely.

LOL, NO could not be, we have been reassured by cons that there are no embaressed Republicans hiding under other labels ;)

uscitizen
12-26-2006, 03:20 PM
And lets not forget all those maimed vets either. They deserve it, but we will be paying for them for the rest of their lives. That is one cost of this war that will be paid for the next 50-70 years or so. both in money and suffering.

LadyT
12-27-2006, 08:56 AM
That "hiding the WMD" defense is so monumentally stupid that I think anyone blathering on about it should be mortified that they're actually resorting to that retarded of an argument simply to defend their false Idol.

Yeah. I never got that either.

#1) His country was attacked and subsequently occupied by "The Great Satan"
#2) He had no problems using them when he had them previously however when his country is attacked, he refuses?


That excuse never added up for me.

Care4all
12-27-2006, 09:12 AM
I think that there is some really serious stuff going on over there in Iraq and that we need to really think this through.

I do believe a withdrawl is in order for the soldiers but how it is done is critical.

the civil war is going on because they are fighting over oil revenues, THIS HAS TO BE SETTLED DIPLOMATICALLY and assurance to the sunnis that they will get a portion of these monies for their tribesman is key.

This civil unrest between the Sunnis and Shiites can not be handled by the sword, but only diplomatically imo.

care

uscitizen
12-27-2006, 09:23 AM
A bit more socialism in revenue sharing and a bit less capitalism ?

LadyT
12-27-2006, 09:55 AM
I think that there is some really serious stuff going on over there in Iraq and that we need to really think this through.

I do believe a withdrawl is in order for the soldiers but how it is done is critical.

the civil war is going on because they are fighting over oil revenues, THIS HAS TO BE SETTLED DIPLOMATICALLY and assurance to the sunnis that they will get a portion of these monies for their tribesman is key.

This civil unrest between the Sunnis and Shiites can not be handled by the sword, but only diplomatically imo.

care

Diplomatically yes. I'm not sure the US has the diplomatic resources to do so. I don't think we'll have any credibility until he's ousted. An impeachment would do wonders for our PR and our reputation.

Cancel 2016.2
12-27-2006, 12:30 PM
An impeachment will not happen.

uscitizen
12-27-2006, 12:32 PM
Naah if enough evidence surfaces, just wait till he is out of office and try him as a regular citizen.

Connecticut Stud
12-27-2006, 12:33 PM
An impeachment will not happen.

stop killing the pitbulls.

uscitizen
12-27-2006, 12:37 PM
Stop the pitbulls from gnawing off babys toes then.
And maiming horses was the latest read in the media.

LadyT
12-27-2006, 12:37 PM
An impeachment will not happen.

I'm not happy with Nanci's position on the issue. Its a sore spot for me.

Cancel 2016.2
12-27-2006, 12:53 PM
"stop killing the pitbulls."

Huh?

Cancel 2016.2
12-27-2006, 12:56 PM
"I'm not happy with Nanci's position on the issue. Its a sore spot for me."

So she's not so "hot" anymore??? ;)

If the Dems want a shot in 2008, then they need to accomplish something other than going after Bush. She understands that.

uscitizen
12-27-2006, 12:58 PM
"stop killing the pitbulls."

Huh?


Rob is a pitbull owner and feels persecuted about it.

LadyT
12-27-2006, 01:05 PM
If the Dems want a shot in 2008, then they need to accomplish something other than going after Bush. She understands that.

Well, I don't think keeping up our military presences in Iraq is going to do that. If I were them I'd focus on stemming illegal immigration and securing our ports and borders. But not just bringing lip service to it, they are going to have to implement something that brings about results.

Some things I think the democrats can win on in the next two years:

1) Inexpensive mass deportations and high fines for companies that hire illegals - someone had an idea about having the fines go to the local hospitals. I thought that was brilliant.

2) Actually having secured ports. I don't know if you recall but when the Dubai debacle happened, the most ironic thing to me was the fact that these politicians were up in arms about a possible security breech, when they had all failed to implement security measures. Long story short, there really was no threat to security because there was no real security.

3) Pulling out of Iraq. Its not that difficult either. If they make US presence a ballot initiative, they can use that as an excuse to leave. Clearly they don't want us there, we don't want to be there, and this way we can save some face. All the while highlighting that the republicans have gotten us into this quagmire/cival war.

4) Impeach Bush. He's a loser who should be thrown out on his as$. He does not deserve to simply have his two terms be up. I don't care what you or Pelosi say.

Connecticut Stud
12-27-2006, 01:09 PM
Superfreak Lives in Denver, Denver Kills pitbulls,

its really a no-brainer.

Connecticut Stud
12-27-2006, 01:09 PM
im able to make the connection you son of a bitch.

uscitizen
12-27-2006, 01:10 PM
I would rather Bush be prosecuted as a common criminal with politics out of the equation. I think this can be done after he leaves office.

LadyT
12-27-2006, 01:18 PM
im able to make the connection you son of a b!tch.

He just PM'd me and told me he participated in a pit bull round up where they killed all of the dogs. looks like you were right.

uscitizen
12-27-2006, 01:18 PM
So Super, apparently Rob is also by his own logic tied to everything bad that happens in his own town as well ?

Connecticut Stud
12-27-2006, 01:22 PM
He just PM'd me and told me he participated in a pit bull round up where they killed all of the dogs. looks like you were right.

of course....


i eat morons like him for breakfast.

Damocles
12-27-2006, 01:32 PM
He just PM'd me and told me he participated in a pit bull round up where they killed all of the dogs. looks like you were right.
They took them all to my house. For some reason my place is where it's at when it comes time for the killing....

LadyT
12-27-2006, 01:35 PM
They took them all to my house. For some reason my place is where it's at when it comes time for the killing....

Yeah. He mentioned your house too. For shame. :eek:

Cancel 2016.2
12-27-2006, 01:38 PM
"Superfreak Lives in Denver, Denver Kills pitbulls,

its really a no-brainer."

Well, given a pitbull nearly ripped my kneecap off when I was a kid, I am not going to feel sorry for the poor bastards.

uscitizen
12-27-2006, 01:42 PM
Yeah Super, Pitbull prejudice is a wise thing.

Cancel 2016.2
12-27-2006, 01:45 PM
T...

1) never going to happen. We need the immigrants here. I saw a day without a Mexican and personally I think it is spot on.

2) The only way we are going to have real security is to shut down the ports and borders and that will never happen. The Dubai thing was a biggoted joke from the start. Not ALL muslims are planning to blow us up.

3) At this point, we do need to change our policies, because we are certainly not accomplishing much. Not sure if a troop pullout is the best policy. But I do agree that your suggestion would be a way to sneak out while attempting to save face.

4) Well, I DO care what you have to say. Given that I am such a kind and compassionate man.... blah blah blah...;) that said, still not going to happen... no matter how hard you wish it were so.

Cancel 2016.2
12-27-2006, 01:46 PM
"Yeah Super, Pitbull prejudice is a wise thing."

WRONG. You cannot profile pitbulls that way. You must randomly kill dogs of all breeds and just hope you get the pitbulls in the process.

Cancel 2016.2
12-27-2006, 01:47 PM
"He just PM'd me and told me he participated in a pit bull round up where they killed all of the dogs. looks like you were right."

WHO did WHAT????

uscitizen
12-27-2006, 01:59 PM
"Yeah Super, Pitbull prejudice is a wise thing."

WRONG. You cannot profile pitbulls that way. You must randomly kill dogs of all breeds and just hope you get the pitbulls in the process.

LOL That would seem to be the American way.
Of course contrary to popular belief we are not always right.

uscitizen
12-27-2006, 02:00 PM
WHO did WHAT????

//
Damo yanked robs chain. Worked pretty good too :)

Connecticut Stud
12-27-2006, 02:06 PM
"Superfreak Lives in Denver, Denver Kills pitbulls,

its really a no-brainer."

Well, given a pitbull nearly ripped my kneecap off when I was a kid, I am not going to feel sorry for the poor bastards.

1 out of a million, and im sure you did something to antagonize it.....

in any event i am on a personal boycott of Colorado, and will not ever step foot in the state as long as you have mass genocide going on there.

Cancel 2016.2
12-27-2006, 02:14 PM
"1 out of a million, and im sure you did something to antagonize it...."

Actually, it was 4 out of 20 that were bitten. Yeah... we were playing baseball.... how antagonistic. The dog was chained up over three blocks away... broke its chain... saw us running around and felt it was evil for us to be doing so. Bastard then bit three kids as they scrambled for the dugout (which thankfully had gates). I ran to the owners house to let it know it was loose. Talking with the owner when the dog rounded the corner. Dog bit into my knee as the owner hid behind me. I enjoyed watching the pound come and take the bastard away. Also enjoyed watching the owner try to explain to the judge why he hid behind a kid from his own dog.

Sorry man. I like you and all, but pitbulls can all burn as far as I am concerned.

Connecticut Stud
12-27-2006, 02:18 PM
"1 out of a million, and im sure you did something to antagonize it...."

Actually, it was 4 out of 20 that were bitten. Yeah... we were playing baseball.... how antagonistic. The dog was chained up over three blocks away... broke its chain... saw us running around and felt it was evil for us to be doing so. Bastard then bit three kids as they scrambled for the dugout (which thankfully had gates). I ran to the owners house to let it know it was loose. Talking with the owner when the dog rounded the corner. Dog bit into my knee as the owner hid behind me. I enjoyed watching the pound come and take the bastard away. Also enjoyed watching the owner try to explain to the judge why he hid behind a kid from his own dog.

Sorry man. I like you and all, but pitbulls can all burn as far as I am concerned.



there is a history of chaining ANY dog and the dogs demenor... its the owners fault...

Cancel 2016.2
12-27-2006, 02:21 PM
"there is a history of chaining ANY dog and the dogs demenor... its the owners fault..."

I have had dogs all my life. My uncle breeds them. Pit bulls are horrible dogs. Put them all down and go with a nice lab or retriever.

uscitizen
12-27-2006, 02:21 PM
Some pit bull behaviour can be attributed to owners, but not all.

uscitizen
12-27-2006, 02:31 PM
They took them all to my house. For some reason my place is where it's at when it comes time for the killing....

How did you organize that ? I could make money selling tickets to shooters here.

Connecticut Stud
12-27-2006, 02:36 PM
"there is a history of chaining ANY dog and the dogs demenor... its the owners fault..."

I have had dogs all my life. My uncle breeds them. Pit bulls are horrible dogs. Put them all down and go with a nice lab or retriever.

you don't know eddie da pit... he's a big p*ssy.... but he's a lab/pit/??? else mix.