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tinfoil
12-17-2009, 01:25 PM
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1209/30737.html

Bwahahahahah they're making the points we've been making for months.

tinfoil
12-17-2009, 02:02 PM
By Howard Dean
Thursday, December 17, 2009; A33

If I were a senator, I would not vote for the current health-care bill. Any measure that expands private insurers' monopoly over health care and transfers millions of taxpayer dollars to private corporations is not real health-care reform. Real reform would insert competition into insurance markets, force insurers to cut unnecessary administrative expenses and spend health-care dollars caring for people. Real reform would significantly lower costs, improve the delivery of health care and give all Americans a meaningful choice of coverage. The current Senate bill accomplishes none of these.

Real health-care reform is supposed to eliminate discrimination based on preexisting conditions. But the legislation allows insurance companies to charge older Americans up to three times as much as younger Americans, pricing them out of coverage. The bill was supposed to give Americans choices about what kind of system they wanted to enroll in. Instead, it fines Americans if they do not sign up with an insurance company, which may take up to 30 percent of your premium dollars and spend it on CEO salaries -- in the range of $20 million a year -- and on return on equity for the company's shareholders. Few Americans will see any benefit until 2014, by which time premiums are likely to have doubled. In short, the winners in this bill are insurance companies; the American taxpayer is about to be fleeced with a bailout in a situation that dwarfs even what happened at AIG.



LOL

tinfoil
12-17-2009, 05:06 PM
Ba bump for the corporate insurance clan

Canceled1
12-17-2009, 05:46 PM
Ba bump for the corporate insurance clan

Howard The Scream Dean ain't such a swell guy anymore it would seem...

tee-hee-hee....

Canceled2
12-17-2009, 06:16 PM
By Howard Dean
Thursday, December 17, 2009; A33

If I were a senator, I would not vote for the current health-care bill. Any measure that expands private insurers' monopoly over health care and transfers millions of taxpayer dollars to private corporations is not real health-care reform. Real reform would insert competition into insurance markets, force insurers to cut unnecessary administrative expenses and spend health-care dollars caring for people. Real reform would significantly lower costs, improve the delivery of health care and give all Americans a meaningful choice of coverage. The current Senate bill accomplishes none of these.

Real health-care reform is supposed to eliminate discrimination based on preexisting conditions. But the legislation allows insurance companies to charge older Americans up to three times as much as younger Americans, pricing them out of coverage. The bill was supposed to give Americans choices about what kind of system they wanted to enroll in. Instead, it fines Americans if they do not sign up with an insurance company, which may take up to 30 percent of your premium dollars and spend it on CEO salaries -- in the range of $20 million a year -- and on return on equity for the company's shareholders. Few Americans will see any benefit until 2014, by which time premiums are likely to have doubled. In short, the winners in this bill are insurance companies; the American taxpayer is about to be fleeced with a bailout in a situation that dwarfs even what happened at AIG.



LOL


What Howard means is that ONLY government should have the monopoly; only government should be able to have out of control and bloated waste; only government can increase costs (taxes)~~~~

tinfoil
12-17-2009, 06:24 PM
Where are the resident healthcare gang today?


the wheels came off the bus. When Dean and DailyKos have turned, you know it's over.

Thank god. The shit they proposed was insane. Penalties for not being able to afford insurance? That there is insanity. Ask anyone you meet what they think of that. It's only socialist, tax-and-spend liberal progressives who believe that's a solution.

SouthernBelle82
12-22-2009, 12:46 PM
What Howard means is that ONLY government should have the monopoly; only government should be able to have out of control and bloated waste; only government can increase costs (taxes)~~~~

Uh that's kinda what the government does hon. :palm:

SouthernBelle82
12-22-2009, 12:50 PM
Where are the resident healthcare gang today?


the wheels came off the bus. When Dean and DailyKos have turned, you know it's over.

Thank god. The shit they proposed was insane. Penalties for not being able to afford insurance? That there is insanity. Ask anyone you meet what they think of that. It's only socialist, tax-and-spend liberal progressives who believe that's a solution.

1) Liberals are not socialist and socialists are not liberals.

2) Progressive can be anyone who wants to progress. Even a republican like Lincoln Chafee. (Well he's an independent now last I heard)

3) Dean is a doctor so why is anyone surprised? He's also not a liberal for the record. He's a conservative democrat.

4) You're not listening. Liberals and other progressives aren't for this because it's nothing more than a gift to the health insurance industry. There are some good things (like no more pre-existence conditions) but other wise it's crap and most liberals and progressive democrats I know wanted single payer and have thought this was shit since day one.