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tinfoil
11-03-2009, 11:57 AM
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They took it down! here's a google cache!
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Learning Lesson: Its a Gas, Man

OBJECTIVE Discover if carbon dioxide has an effect on temperature.
OVERVIEW The demonstration will show that excess carbon dioxide leads to higher temperatures.
TOTAL TIME 1 hour
SUPPLIES Two (2) clear 2-liter bottles
Two thermometers
Molding clay
Two seltzer tablets
Table top lamp used as a source of heat
PRINTED/AV MATERIAL None
TEACHER PREPARATION None
SAFETY FOCUS Summer safety rules


Background

Carbon dioxide has increased greatly in the atmosphere over the past 100 years. Although it comprises only 0.03% of the atmosphere, it has been linked to global warming.
Procedure

1. Partially fill both bottles with water.

2. Add the seltzer tablets to one of the bottles.

3. Suspend the thermometers inside the bottles in such a way that you can measure the temperature of the air and seal the tops with molding clay.

4. Place the lamp at equal distance between each bottle.

5. After an hour, measure the temperature of the water in each bottle.

Discussion

The seltzer tablets supplied one bottle with a source of carbon dioxide. The "fiz" will have heated faster and to a higher temperature than in the other bottle. The increase in heating ability is due to carbon dioxide's high capacity to hold heat.

It has been thought that an increase in carbon dioxide will lead to global warming. While carbon dioxide in the atmosphere has been increasing over the past 100 years, there is no evidence that it is causing an increase in global temperatures.

In 1997, NASA reported global temperature measurements of the Earth's lower atmosphere obtained from satellites revealed no definitive warming trend over the past two decades. In fact, the trend appeared to be a decrease in actual temperature. In 2007, NASA data showed that one-half of the ten warmest years occurred in the 1930's with 1934 (tied with 2006) as the warmest years on record. (NASA data October 23, 2007 from http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/Fig.D.txt)

The 1930s through the 1950s were clearly warmer than the 1960s and 1970s. If carbon dioxide had been the cause then the warmest years would have understandably been in the most recent years. But that is not the case.

The largest differences in the satellite temperature data were not from any man-made activity, but from natural phenomena such as large volcanic eruptions from Mt. Pinatubo, and from El Niņo.

The behavior of the atmosphere is extremely complex. Therefore, discovering the validity of global warming is complex as well. How much effect will the increase in carbon dioxide will have is unclear or even if we recognize the effects of any increase.

Fast Facts
To see the full effect of a greenhouse effect, look to the planet Venus. The atmosphere of Venus consists of 96% carbon dioxide, 3.5% nitrogen, with the remaining amount, less than 1%, of other gasses.

The carbon dioxide atmosphere has allowed the temperature of the surface to exceed 900°F (482°C). This is hot enough to melt lead. Space craft that have successfully landed on venus, despite being well protected, have lasted only about an hour in the excessive heat and crushing pressure.

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Topspin
11-03-2009, 12:20 PM
stop with the facts already, liberals closed debate on the issue just after they whiped the Gore prize jizz off thier chins.

tinfoil
11-03-2009, 12:25 PM
here's a video that's unrelated to NWS or NOAA but it's an excellent addition to this thread. LOL
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2827010454587416316&ei=8XPwSquBPZOKqQOXtZXPBA&q=co2+theory&hl=en#

tinfoil
11-03-2009, 12:32 PM
stop with the facts already, liberals closed debate on the issue just after they whiped the Gore prize jizz off thier chins.

Too bad. They should be able to pwn a low wage conservative like me. Some pot smoking self teaching fool like me! Should be cinch if all the facts are on their side. It's also too bad that they don't educate themsleves enough to put me in my place and I'm left here, unbridled in my assualt on reason.

tinfoil
11-04-2009, 02:30 PM
where the warmers at?

FUCK THE POLICE
11-04-2009, 03:40 PM
The national weather service is an organization of meteorologists, not climatologists. If they want to embarrass themselves by speaking out of their field, then so be it, but it doesn't give their politically based opinion any legitimacy.

tinfoil
11-04-2009, 10:11 PM
The national weather service is an organization of meteorologists, not climatologists. If they want to embarrass themselves by speaking out of their field, then so be it, but it doesn't give their politically based opinion any legitimacy.

LOL

Watermark, you need to read some of the links I post. Google Keith Briffa for the kind of quality science IPCC relys on.

None of the warmers have touched these threads because they've seen the misuse of statistics and they understand. You are not that clever it seems

Good Luck
11-06-2009, 10:28 PM
What a fucking droon. The National Weather Service is a division of NOAA, which is the nation's largest organization studying climatology.